If MIB is Smokie...

[3DSmokie]

IF MIB turns out to be Smokie and also turns out to be "evil" and not a fan of humans - then why didn't he just kill everyone off the first night? I mean the smoke monster obviously has no issue about killing people so why pick and choose? Why not just go on a rampage and purge the island every time people stumble onto it?

Prolly been discussed here before but I couldn't find it.

[3DSmokie]

yeah yeah I know it is a really simple theory with the boiler plate response of "then there wouldn't be much for a show now would there?" :D

[losttime]

IF MIB turns out to be Smokie and also turns out to be "evil" and not a fan of humans - then why didn't he just kill everyone off the first night? I mean the smoke monster obviously has no issue about killing people so why pick and choose? Why not just go on a rampage and purge the island every time people stumble onto it?

Prolly been discussed here before but I couldn't find it.

The reason they all werent killed is because they have a purpose there.

I think Locke was his primary target for the loophole and needed the other ones that "survived" the plane crash for other reasons.

maybe for the events around the time traveling.

Who knows but since I think it was him that brought them to the Island I dont think he was doing it to kill them

[v10silvio22]

Well, it seems obvious he's not allowed to just kill anyone. Plus, he's obviously long since been bored of just murdering people. Right now he cares about end-game: making sure the world ends, so he can go rule hell, or whatever. Killing people is minor league stuff.

[locke_is_the_key]

IF MIB turns out to be Smokie

"Flocke" = Smokie, right? And since Jacob said to Flocke "you found your loophole", doesn't that prove that MIB = Smokie?

[Owninit]

Interesting Question, but Smokie has seemed to kill certain individuals at certain times, not really just display random acts of violence.

If my theory is even remotely close, the game between MIB & Jacob is more of a game of chess. If MIB were to just kill anyone stepping foot onto the island, then it would just be centuries of dead bodies, and time would just keep moving, and nothing would ever change except for the death count. MIB doesn't hate people, he hates being trapped, and not being able to go home.

To find a loophole, get to go home, and be rid of the situation, it would appear he had to kill jacob, and manipulate people to "fight for him". None of that is possible if he and Jacob were the only two people on the island.

In order to find a way to exploit and opponent in any game, is to watch, know them 100%, plan an attack, and work that plan.

To get jacob (someone you can't directly kill) out of the way, you need to nurture, think, manipulate, and find your loophole to domination. That is only possible with years and years of watching Jacob and events on the island to bend the ear of a person like ben into doing your dirty work, recruit special cantidates (people jacob had recruited), and get them to abandon Jacobs plan, work your plan, and set you free. Then and only then after the light at the end of the tunnel is reachable, is killing everyone a forethought, until then you need them.

[tdf192]

If my theory is even remotely close, the game between MIB & Jacob is more of a game of chess.

Then if that is the case would't they be taking turns in killing people...

Maybe they have and we have just assumed it was MiB/Smokie

[Owninit]

Then if that is the case would't they be taking turns in killing people...

Maybe they have and we have just assumed it was MiB/Smokie

Not really. We've never seen Jacob Kill anyone (directly). He brings people to the island to help protect it due to it's signifigance. Granted he had knowledge a plane was going to crash, but only planted people on it, didn't cause it to crash.

The game of chess lies in the fact that Jacob wants people to protect the island, and MIB wants whatever's holding him captive destroyed. Jacob, the protectors, etc, and can kill them, but not the "cantidates" for some reason, and presumably not richard.

Jacob's posturing to keep the island in tact, and there isn't any reason to kill people, that's the job of the protectors, instill why it's important to protect, and then let them manage the kingdom.

the only one interested in killing is anyone wanting to take over the island, and MIB....

The others are just defending themselves and the island...

[3DSmokie]

OK so I guess we now he was a use for humans or else he would have never given the Others a chance to join him or die.... I like the theory of him trying to get off the island and rule hell! Terry O'Quinn would make a hell of a Satan - cheesy pun very much intended!

[rachelskid]

also, i think he can't kill candidates. so, he cannot kill the most important people. plus, i think there is probably something he needs to do in order to ensure the island really meets its end.

and, i have always thought there is some difference between the smoke monster and the MIB. the smoke monster seems like a tool to me, or an "ability." but, i think MIB has his own motives and needs.

he does not really kill indiscriminately, either.

[Junglist]

jack seems like a tool as well

[MonicaLynn60]

Interesting Question, but Smokie has seemed to kill certain individuals at certain times, not really just display random acts of violence.

If my theory is even remotely close, the game between MIB & Jacob is more of a game of chess. If MIB were to just kill anyone stepping foot onto the island, then it would just be centuries of dead bodies, and time would just keep moving, and nothing would ever change except for the death count. MIB doesn't hate people, he hates being trapped, and not being able to go home.

To find a loophole, get to go home, and be rid of the situation, it would appear he had to kill jacob, and manipulate people to "fight for him". None of that is possible if he and Jacob were the only two people on the island.

In order to find a way to exploit and opponent in any game, is to watch, know them 100%, plan an attack, and work that plan.

To get jacob (someone you can't directly kill) out of the way, you need to nurture, think, manipulate, and find your loophole to domination. That is only possible with years and years of watching Jacob and events on the island to bend the ear of a person like ben into doing your dirty work, recruit special cantidates (people jacob had recruited), and get them to abandon Jacobs plan, work your plan, and set you free. Then and only then after the light at the end of the tunnel is reachable, is killing everyone a forethought, until then you need them.



Yeah! I agree, I agree, I agree! :D

I still don't think this is as easy as just killing people....I think that in order to "play this game" MIB has to be two steps ahead of Jacob (Or so MIB thinks he is!)

[Doriandan]

Interesting Question, but Smokie has seemed to kill certain individuals at certain times, not really just display random acts of violence.

If my theory is even remotely close, the game between MIB & Jacob is more of a game of chess. If MIB were to just kill anyone stepping foot onto the island, then it would just be centuries of dead bodies, and time would just keep moving, and nothing would ever change except for the death count. MIB doesn't hate people, he hates being trapped, and not being able to go home.

To find a loophole, get to go home, and be rid of the situation, it would appear he had to kill jacob, and manipulate people to "fight for him". None of that is possible if he and Jacob were the only two people on the island.

In order to find a way to exploit and opponent in any game, is to watch, know them 100%, plan an attack, and work that plan.

To get jacob (someone you can't directly kill) out of the way, you need to nurture, think, manipulate, and find your loophole to domination. That is only possible with years and years of watching Jacob and events on the island to bend the ear of a person like ben into doing your dirty work, recruit special cantidates (people jacob had recruited), and get them to abandon Jacobs plan, work your plan, and set you free. Then and only then after the light at the end of the tunnel is reachable, is killing everyone a forethought, until then you need them.


To just kill inhabitants would be like checkers. To play the game we've been watching you have to play chess. A game where each pieces is unique. Some are pawns and some go in a straight line...

[tcragg]

The game of chess lies in the fact that Jacob wants people to protect the island, and MIB wants whatever's holding him captive destroyed. Jacob, the protectors, etc, and can kill them, but not the "cantidates" for some reason, and presumably not richard.
Jacob's posturing to keep the island in tact, and there isn't any reason to kill people, that's the job of the protectors, instill why it's important to protect, and then let them manage the kingdom.
the only one interested in killing is anyone wanting to take over the island, and MIB....
The others are just defending themselves and the island...


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[myu]

^^
Very cool promo!

Extremely well done, too. Seamless integration of the black & white chessboard. Wish I could ask the creator some questions. :o

[Owninit]

That's a cool ass promo, i hadn't seen it before.