View Full Version : to many smokies
steedo79
02-04-2010, 02:54 PM
damn, i cant read a post that doesnt say that aleast have the people could be smoky or mib or smock or flock, i just dont think sayid is a smokie now i just think he needs to live for what ever reason so thing will turn out right or how jacob needs them
yokogleeton
02-04-2010, 02:56 PM
damn, i cant read a post that doesnt say that aleast have the people could be smoky or mib or smock or flock, i just dont think sayid is a smokie now i just think he needs to live for what ever reason so thing will turn out right or how jacob needs them
I would agree...but that water they dunked sayid in was awfullly murky....no telling what happened exactly.
JfromtheD
02-04-2010, 02:58 PM
I haven't seen as many 'MiB's' as before... thank god. :rolleyes:
And (dare I say it) not many WHH or TCC's. :eek:
losttime
02-04-2010, 03:02 PM
I haven't seen as many 'MiB's' as before... thank god. :rolleyes:
And (dare I say it) not many WHH or TCC's. :eek:
Since you brought it up, WHH:D
notsolost42
02-04-2010, 03:05 PM
This whole "smokie is everyone" thing going on just reminds me of the pages and pages of "Jacob is" until we learned that Jacob was just, ah, Jacob. And for all you nay-sayers, TPTB have already said that Jacob has never been anyone we have ever seen before. Not a poser then. So, I think this whole smokie is the answer to all the islands problems is just plain, well, weird. Oh, and a good point, last night it was confirmed that JACOB visited the losties off the island and it was not smokie posing as Jacob.
rachelskid
02-04-2010, 03:34 PM
This whole "smokie is everyone" thing going on just reminds me of the pages and pages of "Jacob is" until we learned that Jacob was just, ah, Jacob. And for all you nay-sayers, TPTB have already said that Jacob has never been anyone we have ever seen before. Not a poser then. So, I think this whole smokie is the answer to all the islands problems is just plain, well, weird. Oh, and a good point, last night it was confirmed that JACOB visited the losties off the island and it was not smokie posing as Jacob.
indeed. enough. the smoke is not the be all end all. ;):cool:
and by the way, its my new excuse for eveything: did not complete project on time, sorry dealing with smokie. did some untoward, it wasn't me it was smokie.
smokie. smokie. smokie.
JD - WHH. just look in another thread here. chester and i are still at it. albeit both a little humbled. BOTH.
read here by the way, if you have not already. good and necessary article: http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/02/lost-premiere-damon-carlton/
Dead but Here
02-04-2010, 03:43 PM
I am of the opinion that what happened can change. :D
I didn't think anybody was anybody else. I guess I was wrong on that one. Smoke is John now.
JfromtheD
02-04-2010, 03:46 PM
There are some WHH's out there, but no nearly as many.
And Notso... you take that back... Jacob is Vincent! :mad: :p
notsolost42
02-04-2010, 03:49 PM
There are some WHH's out there, but no nearly as many.
And Notso... you take that back... Jacob is Vincent! :mad: :p
lolol! Okay then, Jacob is the little fob hanging from Vincent's collar, just like in MIB, the movie that is! lol. It contains the universe!
notsolost42
02-04-2010, 03:53 PM
I am of the opinion that what happened can change. :D
I didn't think anybody was anybody else. I guess I was wrong on that one. Smoke is John now.
No, you were right the first time. Smokie is not John Locke. John Locke is dead and dead is dead, well, in that alt world. Smokie is just using a physical form, a duplicate, a doppleganger type form but it is not John Locke!!!
boutte
02-04-2010, 05:09 PM
There are two smokies. One is MiB the other is/was Jacob.
rachelskid
02-04-2010, 05:11 PM
There are two smokies. One is MiB the other is/was Jacob.
how? when bullets rang at smokey he turned to smoke and busted heads. when ben stabbed jacob he died. he is dead, but smoke is not.
there is a distinction here between mib and smokie and jacob, and i guess some upcoming 4th? or maybe smokie is only mib's toy. but the puzzle does not fit that simply just yet.
boutte
02-04-2010, 05:16 PM
Well Jacobs death may have eliminated his ability to take that form.
Look at the scene when the Losties first see the monster. Everyone is standing on the hill looking at the trees move. Suddenly there is another noise and everyone turns their heads to look in the other direction and sees the trees falling there.
I think that may be the mythical big clue that we were told existed in the first episode.
rachelskid
02-04-2010, 05:42 PM
Well Jacobs death may have eliminated his ability to take that form.
Look at the scene when the Losties first see the monster. Everyone is standing on the hill looking at the trees move. Suddenly there is another noise and everyone turns their heads to look in the other direction and sees the trees falling there.
I think that may be the mythical big clue that we were told existed in the first episode.
may i direct you here: http://lostanswers.blogspot.com/2009/06/missing-clue-in-pilot.html
there is no missing clue from the pilot. false rumor.
that is not to say that what you say is not the case. However, let me point out how smokey moved in several large directions last night as he smashed heads.
JfromtheD
02-04-2010, 05:45 PM
He moved around in a few different directions, when he tore up Keamy's men, too, didn't he?
rachelskid
02-04-2010, 05:51 PM
He moved around in a few different directions, when he tore up Keamy's men, too, didn't he?
yeah, he was all over that jungle.
boutte
02-04-2010, 06:06 PM
may i direct you here: http://lostanswers.blogspot.com/2009/06/missing-clue-in-pilot.html
there is no missing clue from the pilot. false rumor.
that is not to say that what you say is not the case. However, let me point out how smokey moved in several large directions last night as he smashed heads.
I wish I could get those hundred hours back.
krakup
02-04-2010, 06:10 PM
i am no to arrogant to admit, maybe i have had too many smokies
boutte
02-04-2010, 06:17 PM
Watch this
http://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/twosmokies/780392590_4GaCt-L.jpg (http://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/9556965_YwHLW#780392590_4GaCt-A-LB)
rachelskid
02-04-2010, 06:29 PM
I wish I could get those hundred hours back.
jughead them.
i get what you are saying, totally valid theory. i just cannot get behind i yet. although i will not be surprised if thats the case.
rachelskid
02-04-2010, 06:30 PM
i am no to arrogant to admit, maybe i have had too many smokies
well, now that makes lots of sense. :D
krakup
02-04-2010, 06:34 PM
well, now that makes lots of sense. :D
oh it does to me too :D
abcd1234
02-04-2010, 06:43 PM
agreed, but I do think sayid is now vincent. he will be running around barking and carrying dismembered arms in his mouth SO WEIRD
krakup
02-04-2010, 06:45 PM
agreed, but I do think sayid is now vincent. he will be running around barking and carrying dismembered arms in his mouth SO WEIRD
dont want to spoil you but...........
vincent is jacob ;)
abcd1234
02-04-2010, 06:52 PM
welllll krakup riddle me this: the very first scene of season 1, although deleted from the aired show, has christian telling vincent to go wake jack up. so why would jacob take orders from the nemesis prime? a ha!
krakup
02-04-2010, 06:55 PM
welllll krakup riddle me this: the very first scene of season 1, although deleted from the aired show, has christian telling vincent to go wake jack up. so why would jacob take orders from the nemesis prime? a ha!
christian is nemesis prime? nooooo
abcd1234
02-04-2010, 06:57 PM
isnt he? I thought I read that on one of the threads here. I cant remember which one though.
krakup
02-04-2010, 07:01 PM
isnt he? I thought I read that on one of the threads here. I cant remember which one though.
my take is jacob wanted to die so he needed locke off island for that to happen, christian encourage locke to turn the wheel to me means christian is working for jacob
abcd1234
02-04-2010, 07:02 PM
right! so vincent should have john wayne gacyed christian "go wake up your son"
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