Sayid's Passport

[rachelskid]

it has come to my attention that sayid's passport is from THE REPUBLIC OF IRAN! WTF???:eek:

[LissaMarie]

Um.....that's a little silly! I am always hesitant to chalk things up as a mistake but this has to be a mistake. That's just ridiculous. Nice catch, Rach!

[chester]

Yeah i saw that. And his custom card says "Iraq". Genuine production error?

[rachelskid]

i think that's probably safe to say...production error. probably.

unless he was routed through Iran for some reason? maybe he ran, maybe he was never "sayid Jarahh Torturer"?

[chester]

it has come to my attention that sayid's passport is from THE REPUBLIC OF IRAN! WTF???:eek:

Do you have the screencap without the closup? Underneath that is the date, and there is some debate about whether the last number is a 4 or a 7 (ie., 2004, or 2007). The number looks the same as the first (non-zero) in his birth date, which to me looks like a 4.

[rachelskid]

Do you have the screencap without the closup? Underneath that is the date, and there is some debate about whether the last number is a 4 or a 7 (ie., 2004, or 2007). The number looks the same as the first (non-zero) in his birth date, which to me looks like a 4.

this? it probably won't help much, but here it is. I think its a 4.

maybe see it better here: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Tl7xVSHEwJs/S2ueR6ujkHI/AAAAAAAAARQ/4I4xOa82zwg/s1600-h/LOST_Passes%5B3%5D.png

[chester]

Yeah, the one one the right. Here it is bigger.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/qshguo/4334324321/sizes/l/

[InTheBeginning]

mine's bigger....:p
http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/0b8d84c32bbf5e12caa5c94ad58021a0.jpg

[rachelskid]

freakin bizzaro world. what date is that generally? is that 9/22/04? or what? you cannot make out any numbers clearly. and, republic of iran is very noticeable.

and you know they gave us strange close ups of "sayid looking at nadia's picture" TWICE. at least. of course, those must be clues.

[InTheBeginning]

freakin bizzaro world. what date is that generally? is that 9/22/04? or what? you cannot make out any numbers clearly. and, republic of iran is very noticeable.

and you know they gave us strange close ups of "sayid looking at nadia's picture" TWICE. at least. of course, those must be clues.

Notice how Nadia's pic is covering the Oceanic flight number??????

[LissaMarie]

There is a screenshot of the flight number in another thread. 815 it is!

[krakup]

Yeah, the one one the right. Here it is bigger.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/qshguo/4334324321/sizes/l/

i see 4 .

[InTheBeginning]

There is a screenshot of the flight number in another thread. 815 it is!

Thanks L, There are just sooo many threads to work through...oh wait, you already know about those.

[LissaMarie]

Thanks L, There are just sooo many threads to work through...oh wait, you already know about those.

HA! Ain't that the truth! And don't think I've forgotten about you. :cool::D

[Jelena]

Wow, that is freaky! I don't think it's a production error - it would be pretty huge. Surely they are not THAT incompetent?

Oh, I also think it's a 4.

[Junglist]

nice catch i say. we'll have to see what happens with it.

[Entervoice]

it has come to my attention that sayid's passport is from THE REPUBLIC OF IRAN! WTF???:eek:

well spotted, very good

[abcd1234]

isnt sayid an iraqi deserter? why would it be such a stretch for him to have an iranian passport? ben had a suitcase full of passports

[losttime]

815 it is!

Thank you, Yoda:D

lol

[CompletelyLost]

I think it's safe to say that the producers of Lost don't make mistakes. The passport is Iran for a reason.

[ortrules]

I think it's safe to say that the producers of Lost don't make mistakes.

People say this a lot, and I always think it's a bit silly. Of course they make mistakes - they've even admitted to a few.

The passport is Iran for a reason.

But I agree with this. Perhaps in this timeline, Sayid fled from the Iraqi guard to Iran because he didn't want to be a torturer. Or perhaps his brother (who was supposed to kill the chicken as a young boy) became the torturer and Sayid didn't.

[losttime]

I think it's safe to say that the producers of Lost don't make mistakes. The passport is Iran for a reason.

Well they do make mistakes and have admitted it but I dont think this is one of them

[abcd1234]

isnt sayid an iraqi deserter? why would it be such a stretch for him to have an iranian passport? ben had a suitcase full of passports

[rachelskid]

its not that its a stretch is just that its different from before. three are a million possibilities as to why, but right now it can lead on to believe maybe sayid is not sayid the badass.

[orsonkidd]

I doubt it is a production error (although there are many in Lost) but the reason it's Iran doesn't have to be sereptitious. There could be any number of valid resons that Sayid has an Iranian passport....also what would the point be of him being from Iran instead of Iraq, or how will it matter to the big picture? If all it is is to show that some things are Dif. that's fine, but, imo, if you have to use a screen cap to get across a major plot point....chances are it isn't a major plot point. *shrugs*

[rachelskid]

I doubt it is a production error (although there are many in Lost) but the reason it's Iran doesn't have to be sereptitious. There could be any number of valid resons that Sayid has an Iranian passport....also what would the point be of him being from Iran instead of Iraq, or how will it matter to the big picture? If all it is is to show that some things are Dif. that's fine, but, imo, if you have to use a screen cap to get across a major plot point....chances are it isn't a major plot point. *shrugs*

wellllll....they ODDLY showed sayid staring at nadia's pic while holding his passport TWICE. i even thought, ok, whats the point now. so, for the die hards, like us, who are looking at screen caps, the clue is there.
however, if its something, it will be developed later.

don't you see? PLEASE OLD AND NEW FANS. thats the finale season mantra. why? who knows.

[orsonkidd]

wellllll....they ODDLY showed sayid staring at nadia's pic while holding his passport TWICE. i even thought, ok, whats the point now. so, for the die hards, like us, who are looking at screen caps, the clue is there.
however, if its something, it will be developed later.

don't you see? PLEASE OLD AND NEW FANS. thats the finale season mantra. why? who knows.

that's true....and there might be something "major' to it, what that might be and how it will be imp. enough to impact the final 17 or so eps. left, idk......so little time so many mysteries left to solve.....shame that they are (maybe) introducing more of them w/o taking the time to answer any of the ones that have been around since season 1. :p

[ortrules]

shame that they are (maybe) introducing more of them w/o taking the time to answer any of the ones that have been around since season 1. :p

Seriously, what's up with Walt?

[woogie]

There is a screenshot of the flight number in another thread. 815 it is!

Can you make a link to this thread??

[rachelskid]

Can you make a link to this thread??

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/ninth_configuration/815.jpg

its in the link "is it flight 815 or not?"

[HawkINHawaii]

it says he is an Iraqi citizen though right?

[HawkINHawaii]

sorry that was an aweful picture...I have never uploaded before. If you look in the top left corner you can see that is says "country of Citiz..." "Iraq"

[KatieShephard]

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/ninth_configuration/815.jpg

its in the link "is it flight 815 or not?"

Yeah, the one one the right. Here it is bigger.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/qshguo/4334324321/sizes/l/

These are not the same passports. His name is written in two different handwritings and the part where it gives the flight number...one says Oceanic ?? (covered by Nadia's pic) and the other says 815 Oceanic.

[rachelskid]

These are not the same passports. His name is written in two different handwritings and the part where it gives the flight number...one says Oceanic ?? (covered by Nadia's pic) and the other says 815 Oceanic.

i think they are two different shots. hard to say about handwriting...

[woogie]

These are not the same passports. His name is written in two different handwritings and the part where it gives the flight number...one says Oceanic ?? (covered by Nadia's pic) and the other says 815 Oceanic.

I noticed that too! I wonder why the production crew would have gone through the trouble of making seperate customs declaration forms for sayid. Maybe someone threw it away before they could get that second shot?? :)

[DarkPhoenix-24]

I honestly believe that it is still oceanic flight 815. If it isn't, then wtf?! anywho, ya I noticed the passport was WAY different as well, but I believe it was purposely done. There just isn't enough evidence to say it wasn't purposely done.

[Dzbabykel]

Yeah that's really weird...I mean the writers and production crew create all the props and put sooo much effort into every single detail in each scene that I would think it was all on purpose...I can't imagine they would make a mistake like that. But who knows...:confused:

[jlazarus]

In a thread you started about 815:

http://lost.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12357&page=2

I posted links to some screen caps and then also enlarged the date area.

There are at least two different customs declarations...one that includes 815 as the flight number and one that does not.

And the date in the lower right doesn't look like "04" to me, but hard to tell for sure...look at post #67

[LissaMarie]

Ok, this is about the cutest thing ever. A new member that hasn't been approved yet (so he can't post himself) was so excited to share this tidbit, he asked me to post it for him. Here you go Snowblind, and welcome to the loony bin! :D

Here's what he sent me:


God I want to post so bad - About the passport - I have seen two photos of the passport but evidently I am the only one that has noticed that the fingernails are different lengths in each photo....

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/ninth_configuration/815.jpg


http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Lissamarie323/1LOST_Passes3.png


Please post this for me under the passport thread where they are attempting to find out the year and flight number?
Thanks again -
(Snowblind)

[wiley]

LOL good catch!

[CompletelyLost]

OK, I would like to apologize for making the stupid statement that the Lost producers don't make mistakes. They do. Sorry to let you down Ort...
(humbly walks back to his chair). lol

[mcgarnigle]

i'm thinking sayids nail length is only important to his manicurist, b/c she aint getting any referrals on those things.

[Dzbabykel]

OK, I would like to apologize for making the stupid statement that the Lost producers don't make mistakes. They do. Sorry to let you down Ort...
(humbly walks back to his chair). lol

Hahaha...I'm sure the DO make mistakes, they aren't God....or are they?? :eek:

[Dzbabykel]

i'm thinking sayids nail length is only important to his manicurist, b/c she aint getting any referrals on those things.

Hahaha they are soo gross.....I always laughed when he was kissing Shannon and thats all I could see....wasn't she scared off?! :p

[krakup]

Hahaha...I'm sure the DO make mistakes, they aren't God....or are they?? :eek:

jacob is....... oh never mind. obvious it is smokey :D

[LissaMarie]

i'm thinking sayids nail length is only important to his manicurist, b/c she aint getting any referrals on those things.

LOL! That is so true. Those are creepy fingers, for sure!:D

[Snowblind]

Woot! I am "Officially" Lost now :)

I hope I am able to contribute a tenth as much as I have gotten out of the forums even if I end up wrong about everything - hehe.

Now to find an Avatar....

[LissaMarie]

Woot! I am "Officially" Lost now :)

I hope I am able to contribute a tenth as much as I have gotten out of the forums even if I end up wrong about everything - hehe.

Now to find an Avatar....

You made it!! Finally! Welcome, welcome, welcome to the madness, Snowblind! :)

[KatieShephard]

so if they are two different passports, on purpose, then what does that mean?

[rachelskid]

i don't think they are two different passports. I think the fingernail discrepancy is about Naveen and his stand in. And, based on the sonogram, its possible that they thought no one would notice and Iranian passport and so even that could be an error for all we know.

[jlazarus]

i don't think they are two different passports. I think the fingernail discrepancy is about Naveen and his stand in. And, based on the sonogram, its possible that they thought no one would notice and Iranian passport and so even that could be an error for all we know.


The customs declarations don't like the same - there are two of them. One that says just "Oceanic", and one that says "815 Oceanic".

Here's one:

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz168/ninth_configuration/815.jpg
Here's the other:

http://www.gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=132935&fullsize=1

Also the date in the upper right on one is not the same as the other. Can't tell exactly *what* it says (it's a bit garbled) but definitely not his birthdate as the other one appears to be.

[lost-a-lot]

The legible birth date is interesting - 1972. Sayid once referenced the First Gulf War when he said, "I was 23 when the Americans came to my country." That places his birth in '67 or '68 in our reality.