Claire.. The New....???

[Itssas83]

I EDIT TO WARN ALL THAT HAVEN'T SEEN EPPY 3 YET... SPOILER ALERT :P











I am so happy to see Claire back again, always knew we'd see her, and knew she'd be different in some way.

I'm happy to say the Claire has become the new Rousseau!!!
Living in the jungle, lost her child (tho not in the same way...), setting up traps, totting around a rifle...

It will be sooo awesome and interesting where this ends up going.

Does she remember Jin?

I think so...

Discuss.... :):D:):o

[XmasDVD]

[QUOTE=Itssas83;331548]I EDIT TO WARN ALL THAT HAVEN'T SEEN EPPY 3 YET... SPOILER ALERT :P


Come on...we have a thread for discussion so to not ruin it for others.
Please LOOK before you LEAP.

Thanks!

[LissaMarie]

No, it's ok. Go ahead and post! We don't have a time limit on how long you have to wait to start new threads at all. I think the warning for those who haven't seen it yet as well as not finishing the comment in your title was perfect. Carry on, Itssas. :)

[Unbridled Pageantry]

Booya!!!
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[Dzbabykel]

Yeah I was gonna say, we can post on here as soon as its shown on tv right??

[MrEchoLives]

i dont know about Claire yet... If Dogan says she was sick, then maybe she is infected right now and no turning back. I got a feeling it may not be the same claire we know come next episode

[LissaMarie]

Yeah I was gonna say, we can post on here as soon as its shown on tv right??

Absolutely! If you're here on Lost night and you haven't seen the new epi yet then you're a boob and deserve to be spoiled. :D

[LissaMarie]

i dont know about Claire yet... If Dogan says she was sick, then maybe she is infected right now and no turning back. I got a feeling it may not be the same claire we know come next episode

Yeah...he eluded to it reaching your heart and then it being too late. I guess we can surmise that it's too late for Claire.

[wvugurl]

Absolutely! If you're here on Lost night and you haven't seen the new epi yet then you're a boob and deserve to be spoiled. :D

I think the issue is people are in different time zones and are all around the world..they may be here looking at topics from last week when we are giving hints on this weeks...i see both sides of this...not sure what is right and what is not...as im sure alot of us who see it eastern time zone are on here right before the show..i don't know:eek:

[Itssas83]

haha yeah i kinda figured the whole not finishing my title and the blatant warning before the actual post would be sufficent enough for people to get the point, i been checking out this site non-stop for a long time now, and i know not to straight out ruin anything for anyone...

as soon as the others mentioned Claire tho, and the scene where they said Rousseau has been dead for many years now, but Aldo was so intent on not letting out anymore info, and how they showed the traps that were built by someone other than Rousseau, i KNEW we'd see Claire as Queen of the Jungle...

or at least in my eyes ;)
hehe

thanks for havin my back guys too, if ya dont want spoilers, maybe you shouldn't be reading new topics right after a new episode has just aired ;)
didn't mean to cause trouble tho!

[LissaMarie]

Yeah, but that's my point. Don't come here until you've seen the new episode. There's no stopping the new posts and it seems like the only reasonable solution. Most of the international crew won't see this epi on air until a week later. I don't think it's reasonable to expect everyone to wait to post...makes more sense not to come here until you've seen the new epi.

[Dzbabykel]

haha yeah i kinda figured the whole not finishing my title and the blatant warning before the actual post would be sufficent enough for people to get the point, i been checking out this site non-stop for a long time now, and i know not to straight out ruin anything for anyone...

as soon as the others mentioned Claire tho, and the scene where they said Rousseau has been dead for many years now, but Aldo was so intent on not letting out anymore info, and how they showed the traps that were built by someone other than Rousseau, i KNEW we'd see Claire as Queen of the Jungle...

or at least in my eyes ;)
hehe

thanks for havin my back guys too, if ya dont want spoilers, maybe you shouldn't be reading new topics right after a new episode has just aired ;)
didn't mean to cause trouble tho!


No trouble at all! :D

[LissaMarie]

haha yeah i kinda figured the whole not finishing my title and the blatant warning before the actual post would be sufficent enough for people to get the point, i been checking out this site non-stop for a long time now, and i know not to straight out ruin anything for anyone...

as soon as the others mentioned Claire tho, and the scene where they said Rousseau has been dead for many years now, but Aldo was so intent on not letting out anymore info, and how they showed the traps that were built by someone other than Rousseau, i KNEW we'd see Claire as Queen of the Jungle...

or at least in my eyes ;)
hehe

thanks for havin my back guys too, if ya dont want spoilers, maybe you shouldn't be reading new topics right after a new episode has just aired ;)
didn't mean to cause trouble tho!

You didn't at all. Thanks for posting in such a responsible, respectful way. :)

[InTheBeginning]

Back on topic....;)

She certainly looks different from when we last saw her with Christian... Dogen thinks she is 'infected'.
I'm thinking she looked as though she was kind of remembering Jin.
Very Rousseau-like.

[LissaMarie]

Indeed! So do you think that means Rousseau was infected too?

[rachelskid]

yeah, i think its a well known fact that we, west coasters, turn off the forum at 6pm our time and do not return until after we are done watching. sometimes you have to police yourself. although, thanks for the effort.

so, claire died in the explosion. interesting.

[InTheBeginning]

Indeed! So do you think that means Rousseau was infected too?

She was always a little 'off', don't you think. She also said numerous times that her crew had been sick/infected etc...

[notsolost42]

yeah, i think its a well known fact that we, west coasters, turn off the forum at 6pm our time and do not return until after we are done watching. sometimes you have to police yourself. although, thanks for the effort.

so, claire died in the explosion. interesting.

Yup. It sure did. :D
My year long battle with Ort is finally settled. Somebody better tell him. :p
Kinda makes me wonder about Jin!!! :eek::eek:

[Dead but Here]

I figure if it's Tuesday, and you haven't seen the new ep yet, you should stick to the other boards and stay out of the season 6 one until you've seen it so those who have don't have to wait for permission to talk about it.

Don't want to be mean to anybody or anything, but some of us will probably be going to bed before everyone has seen it and you know how it is when there's a new ep. You get ideas and want to get them out there right away.

[losttime]

yeah, i think its a well known fact that we, west coasters, turn off the forum at 6pm our time and do not return until after we are done watching. sometimes you have to police yourself. although, thanks for the effort.

so, claire died in the explosion. interesting.

Do you recall the scenes lastyr involving Miles and CLaire and Sawyer threatening MIles if he looks at her wrong?

Seems he took an interst in her then.

We also have the scene when she wakes up at the house after the explosion and I think Sawyer asked her how shewas feeling and she said she had a headache or sometrhing but "at least I'll live" and Miles responded saying "I wouldnt be so sure about that"

I talked about this last season and thought it was important comment by MIles.

Interstingly enough, Miles said something very similar when Hurley said to Miles that Sayid will be OK and MIles responded saying something very close to the comment he made to Claire.

Think these wre little subtle hints that we were being clued into about Sayid and Claire's fate

[rachelskid]

Yup. It sure did. :D
My year long battle with Ort is finally settled. Somebody better tell him. :p
Kinda makes me wonder about Jin!!! :eek::eek:

you were battling ort over claire's death? i did not notice. oops.

why, i wonder, are the regurgitating Rousseau qualities? because thats all calire knows about surviving on her own? is she on her own? how did the temple Others even know what happened to claire.

[notsolost42]

you were battling ort over claire's death? i did not notice. oops.

why, i wonder, are the regurgitating Rousseau qualities? because thats all calire knows about surviving on her own? is she on her own? how did the temple Others even know what happened to claire.

Question: Why do the same events take place using different people? Like the Claire/Rousseau connection for instance. There have been the same lines said by Ben and Locke as well. It is just plain weird and it all has to be connected on some higher level.

[LissaMarie]

Yup. It sure did. :D
My year long battle with Ort is finally settled. Somebody better tell him. :p
Kinda makes me wonder about Jin!!!

OMG, JIN!!! Holy crap!!:eek:

[rachelskid]

Question: Why do the same events take place using different people? Like the Claire/Rousseau connection for instance. There have been the same lines said by Ben and Locke as well. It is just plain weird and it all has to be connected on some higher level.

indeed, you and i and others have found many identical lines spoken at different times by different characters sometimes in analogous situation, sometimes not.

but this is a whole new level. i hope there is a reason.

its starting to look like the cycle repeating. actually i should say, the cycle coming to an end, and setting up for a repeat. not with our losties. but the next damn group jacob kidnaps and traps on the island. and claire will play the crazy lady in the jungle, and the losties will be the Others. ick. UNLESS of course they can destroy jacob and his silly cult following.

i think i might be team MIB. :eek:

[orsonkidd]

what I found interesting was all the allusions to the Rousseu eps. Sayid was electrocuted im much the same way Rousseu tortured him........and apparently he is now in danger of becoming "sick" in the same way she was and Claire seems to be.

How did Claire go from the "hippie" we last saw in the cabin w/ Christian...to the gun toteing/trap setting "other hunter?"

[LissaMarie]

Question: Why do the same events take place using different people? Like the Claire/Rousseau connection for instance. There have been the same lines said by Ben and Locke as well. It is just plain weird and it all has to be connected on some higher level.

Yeah, strange indeed. You and your secrets. :cool::D

It seems as if there are a finite number of rolls to be played out on the island and the souls or characters that play out those rolls are interchangeable. Hmmmm....

[losttime]

what I found interesting was all the allusions to the Rousseu eps. Sayid was electrocuted im much the same way Rousseu tortured him........and apparently he is now in danger of becoming "sick" in the same way she was and Claire seems to be.

How did Claire go from the "hippie" we last saw in the cabin w/ Christian...to the gun toteing/trap setting "other hunter?"

Wait, why do you think ROussea was infected?

If she was then why wasnt any of the Losties who spent time with her infected a well?

Sayid, Claire, Locke to name a few.

Claire didnt become infected until she was confronted by Christian in the jungle holding the baby.


Seems Roussea was much differnt once she was reunited with her daughter and showed no more being "crazy" like she was before.

And if she was infected by them i dont think she would hve ahot them since they all had the same purpose

[notsolost42]

Yeah, strange indeed. You and your secrets. :cool::D

It seems as if there are a finite number of rolls to be played out on the island and the souls or characters that play out those rolls are interchangeable. Hmmmm....

Yesssss. That's what I am talking about. It is a game of some kind but it's not some plain game of chess or checkers! :D
Remember that three dimension chess game that Spock played on Star Trek? The moves were in different dimensions and the pieces could move back and forth to each level or something weird like that. And it seems Claire had been marching around the jungle dead after the explosion about as long as they have been dragging Sayid around...dead or undead bodies that are not burried...they become infected....

[LissaMarie]

Yesssss. That's what I am talking about. It is a game of some kind but it's not some plain game of chess or checkers! :D
Remember that three dimension chess game that Spock played on Star Trek? The moves were in different dimensions and the pieces could move back and forth to each level or something weird like that.

I'm not a Trekkie but I get what you're saying. It's like Chess 2.0 or something. I like it! Thanks for the visual. :D

[orsonkidd]

Wait, why do you think ROussea was infected?

If she was then why wasnt any of the Losties who spent time with her infected a well?

Sayid, Claire, Locke to name a few.

Claire didnt become infected until she was confronted by Christian in the jungle holding the baby.


Seems Roussea was much differnt once she was reunited with her daughter and showed no more being "crazy" like she was before.

And if she was infected by them i dont think she would hve ahot them since they all had the same purpose

I'm just theorizing, but I don't think the "sickness" is something you catch like the flu.

we don't know how/ when Claire became "infected" or if Doggen is telling the truth........Claire did seem to recognize Jin, right?

Right now it's all speculation.

[notsolost42]

I'm just theorizing, but I don't think the "sickness" is something you catch like the flu.

we don't know how/ when Claire became "infected" or if Doggen is telling the truth........Claire did seem to recognize Jin, right?

Right now it's all speculation.

Maybe Jin was really killed in the freighter explosion, too.

[rachelskid]

Maybe Jin was really killed in the freighter explosion, too.

oh christ. he has not acted out in 3 years. that would be hard to swallow.

BTW- i read a review of LA X, and whoever wrote it compared the spring to a mikvah. I lughed out loud. thought you might find it funny.

[LissaMarie]

Maybe Jin was really killed in the freighter explosion, too.

That is such a great point. Is there a "lightness"? Is it possible that the other side (whoever that turns out to be) can claim the dead too? Seems reasonable enough, right?

[orsonkidd]

Maybe Jin was really killed in the freighter explosion, too.

idk, if you are teasing me or being snarky, but I don't think Jin died when the freighter exploded.

[LissaMarie]

idk, if you are teasing me or being snarky, but I don't think Jin died when the freighter exploded.

No, I think that was a legit point. How could Jin survive that? Why is that ridiculous?

[notsolost42]

oh christ. he has not acted out in 3 years. that would be hard to swallow.

BTW- i read a review of LA X, and whoever wrote it compared the spring to a mikvah. I lughed out loud. thought you might find it funny.

Wow! That's crazy! A mikvah is to cleanse a bride before her wedding....hmmmm

[rachelskid]

No, I think that was a legit point. How could Jin survive that? Why is that ridiculous?

not the point is ridiculous, the writing of that plot point would be hard to accept with a three year gap in normal behavior. unless there is some might good explanation

[notsolost42]

idk, if you are teasing me or being snarky, but I don't think Jin died when the freighter exploded.

I'm not being snarky at all. There seems to be a pattern developing here. So far there is a good chance that Claire, Jin, Sayid and Rousseau's team all experienced time traveled after or at the point of death.

[orsonkidd]

No, I think that was a legit point. How could Jin survive that? Why is that ridiculous?

Jin has been shown not only interact w/ numerous characters after the explosion...he traveled through time, i can't see how anyone can think he has been dead all this time.....and don't you think the Temple Others (not to mention Miles and Hurley) would have been aware of the fact that a ghost was walking around w/ them......or driving Dharma Jeeps/ firing guns etc. ?:confused:

[LissaMarie]

I don't know how you all would expect him to act of he was claimed? How do you quantify that?

[LissaMarie]

I'm not being snarky at all. There seems to be a pattern developing here. So far there is a good chance that Claire, Jin, Sayid and Rousseau's team all experienced time traveled after or at the point of death.

I think it's possible that Rousseau was "claimed" and that her team wasn't.

[rachelskid]

I don't know how you all would expect him to act of he was claimed? How do you quantify that?

creepy with an agenda that has little or nothing to do with sun or himself.

[notsolost42]

I think it's possible that Rousseau was "claimed" and that her team wasn't.

I have to disagree. :D I do think the exact opposite. She was nuts, yes, but she wasn't claimed. She is the one that said they had a "sickness." She is also the one that said there is no such thing as monsters.

[LissaMarie]

creepy with an agenda that has little or nothing to do with sun or himself.

LOL...well, all I'm saying is that we don't know for sure what the behavior would look like, do we? Do we know of anyone who has been claimed aside from Claire?

[orsonkidd]

I don't know how you all would expect him to act of he was claimed? How do you quantify that?

oh i get what your saying. You think Jin might have died in the explosion and was "claimed" by MiB or whomever....alright, maybe. I guess, but I don't think so......wouldn't that mean (if it's MiB) that he was claiming two people at the same time in dif. eras? although I can't say this is "wrong" there is less "proof" for that view than there is to support that he is alive and is himself....after all...Flocke seemed more interested in killing Jacob than Jin does...all Jin wants is to find Sun.

[rachelskid]

LOL...well, all I'm saying is that we don't know for sure what the behavior would look like, do we? Do we know of anyone who has been claimed aside from Claire?

rousseous' crew. sweet talking, island protecting, trying to kill your pregnant girlfriend types.

[LissaMarie]

I have to disagree. :D I do think the exact opposite. She was nuts, yes, but she wasn't claimed. She is the one that said they had a "sickness." She is also the one that said there is no such thing as monsters.

Yeah but I was just thinking that maybe the reason why they took Claire's baby and Rousseau's baby was because they were both infected and claimed. Remember Widdy was the one who ordered Ben to take Rousseau's baby. Just thinking "out loud".

[rachelskid]

Yeah but I was just thinking that maybe the reason why they took Claire's baby and Rousseau's baby was because they were both infected and claimed. Remember Widdy was the one who ordered Ben to take Rousseau's baby. Just thinking "out loud".

you mean KILL the baby...

[LissaMarie]

rousseous' crew. sweet talking, island protecting, trying to kill your pregnant girlfriend types.

I'm not so sure about that. I think it's possible that Rousseau was infected and her team wasn't. Just my current line of thinking, which I reserve the right to change when you guys talk me out of it. :D

[LissaMarie]

you mean KILL the baby...

Yes, exactly! Widdy and Christian may be working towards the same goal. The only reason why Alex was saved was because Jacob / Ben stepped in.

[notsolost42]

Yeah but I was just thinking that maybe the reason why they took Claire's baby and Rousseau's baby was because they were both infected and claimed. Remember Widdy was the one who ordered Ben to take Rousseau's baby. Just thinking "out loud".

When did they take Claire's baby? :eek:
Ethan tried to but Alex helped Claire escape.
I think the Others like children because they are innocent. That's why they took Emma and Zack.

[LissaMarie]

When did they take Claire's baby? :eek:
Ethan tried to but Alex helped Claire escape.
I think the Others like children because they are innocent. That's why they took Emma and Zack.

Christian took Claire with him and "claimed" her, I am assuming, and left Aaron in the jungle. Same difference really.

[notsolost42]

Christian took Claire with him and "claimed" her, I am assuming, and left Aaron in the jungle. Same difference really.

Okay, I see what you are saying then.

[LissaMarie]

So this is how I'm seeing it.

The same scenarios will play out in this new paralell timeline as played out in the last. Kate will be present when Aaron is born, somehow Kate will end up raising the baby with a man (maybe even Jack) only to lose him later, Charlie will die, etc...


...and eventually end up right back on the island.

[orsonkidd]

So this is how I'm seeing it.

The same scenarios will play out in this new paralell timeline as played out in the last. Kate will be present when Aaron is born, somehow Kate will end up raising the baby with a man (maybe even Jack) only to lose him later, Charlie will die, etc...


...and eventually end up right back on the island.

I think there is some merit to this line of thought......Imo, things like WHH and TCC will be found to not be mutually exclusive and "We are the cause of our own suffering" and "I needed that pain to get where I needed to go" "We are not just the sum of our parts" will be the "answers" that the show gives for many of the characters.

[rachelskid]

yes, when tptb say "what does redemption look like?" i tend to think that its not setting off nuclear bombs to undo your choices...

i think more that Free Will and Destiny are not mutually exclusive, rather then WHH and TCC. but, same difference.

[LissaMarie]

I think there is some merit to this line of thought......Imo, things like WHH and TCC will be found to not be mutually exclusive and "We are the cause of our own suffering" and "I needed that pain to get where I needed to go" "We are not just the sum of our parts" will be the "answers" that the show gives for many of the characters.

Agreed! The parallel universes are almost like reincarnation in a way....a chance to reach a new spiritual level. Maybe each iteration, each new timeline, each opportunity they have to live these set events, is a chance to evolve spiritually and "get it right". The getting it right might lead to putting an end to the cycle, finally, once they have redeemed themselves and evolved.

[SkippingInTime]

Reading this has me thinking and wondering about Claire and Sayid. Maybe they've somehow had their souls/ taken over by someone else who's died on the island. Seems pretty strange, but who knows. Perhaps if not, then somehow the infected forget who they are and think they are someone else or something.

That'd help explain why Claire can make traps like Rousseau and why some people think Sayid sounded like Charlie. It will be interesting to see more of both characters!

[LissaMarie]

Reading this has me thinking and wondering about Claire and Sayid. Maybe they've somehow had their souls/ taken over by someone else who's died on the island. Seems pretty strange, but who knows. Perhaps if not, then somehow the infected forget who they are and think they are someone else or something.

That'd help explain why Claire can make traps like Rousseau and why some people think Sayid sounded like Charlie. It will be interesting to see more of both characters!

Right! I said something similar to this in one of these threads tonight. It's almost as if there is a finite set of characters that play out the same actions on the island or make the same moves. The "souls" that actually play out these roles are interchangeable.

[SkippingInTime]

Right! I said something similar to this in one of these threads tonight. It's almost as if there is a finite set of characters that play out the same actions on the island or make the same moves. The "souls" that actually play out these roles are interchangeable.

It will be interesting. It was probably one of your posts that made me think further on this thought. I think it has to do with those who die on the island. I wish I could add more, but I think I will have to see more of each character before I can have more to say about it.

About the "sickness" I've posted it somewhere, but I don't quite believe yet what Sayid and Claire are facing is the same exact thing Rousseau's team faced. I think they were duped like fLocke was, because we see their bodies left in the hole under the temple. That means they must have died rather immediately. The crew members who wanted to shoot Rousseau somehow left the temple area. How they were able to be killed again when fLocke couldn't be killed, is kind of a mystery though.

[woogie]

It will be interesting. It was probably one of your posts that made me think further on this thought. I think it has to do with those who die on the island. I wish I could add more, but I think I will have to see more of each character before I can have more to say about it.

About the "sickness" I've posted it somewhere, but I don't quite believe yet what Sayid and Claire are facing is the same exact thing Rousseau's team faced. I think they were duped like fLocke was, because we see their bodies left in the hole under the temple. That means they must have died rather immediately. The crew members who wanted to shoot Rousseau somehow left the temple area. How they were able to be killed again when fLocke couldn't be killed, is kind of a mystery though.

We never saw their bodies at the temple. You only see the corpse of Montag the guy that got dragged into the hole and arm ripped off. Smokey killed him, just like the other female in the French team. There were three remaining members who got infected and tried to kill Rousseau, but she killed them. They showed all three of their bodies on the beach with gunshot wounds. I think what happen to those people is very similar to the claiming of Sayid and Claire.

[SkippingInTime]

Maybe you could be right then. I don't have the DVD's or a video recorder to go back and see the previous episodes. I'm going by my memory, which may have left out some details. I thought they all went down into the temple and I don't remember exactly how many there were and how many skeletons were found in the area later. We haven't heard Claire speak up yet. If she has that same mechanical sounding voice, then we will know.

If this is true that Claire is possessed by Rousseau and Sayid is possessed by Charlie (or someone else), then who would the team members be possessed by?

[woogie]

Maybe you could be right then. I don't have the DVD's or a video recorder to go back and see the previous episodes. I'm going by my memory, which may have left out some details. I thought they all went down into the temple and I don't remember exactly how many there were and how many skeletons were found in the area later. We haven't heard Claire speak up yet. If she has that same mechanical sounding voice, then we will know.

If this is true that Claire is possessed by Rousseau and Sayid is possessed by Charlie (or someone else), then who would the team members be possessed by?

Im not sure where you are getting that Rousseau possessed Claire or Charlie possessed Sayid... I think they have a "sickness"...a zombie like quality. Not alive...not dead...Lost.

[SkippingInTime]

Some of us noticed that the infected seemed to act like other members on the island, like some that had been killed previously. I'm starting to think that may be a possibility, but it's still kind of soon to know for sure. It did seem interesting for Claire to make the exact same kind of traps that Rousseau used to make. I don't recall the two characters being close in life.

[Jeremy]

The two seemed close to me. Both were to be expected to raise their children by themselves, were the only two to have children on the island since Amy had Ethan(so far as we know), and later lost their children to kidnappers(Ben and Kate). Aside from that, both Rousseau and Alex helped Claire escape Ethan. Rousseau tried to trade Aaron for Alex. Seems like plenty of interaction to me.

Not that I support anyone being possesed by other dead characters. I just think it's a coincidense that was likely to happen due to similar circumstances.

[woogie]

Some of us noticed that the infected seemed to act like other members on the island, like some that had been killed previously. I'm starting to think that may be a possibility, but it's still kind of soon to know for sure. It did seem interesting for Claire to make the exact same kind of traps that Rousseau used to make. I don't recall the two characters being close in life.

Sayid seem to think he was still Sayid. He remembers being shot and remembers Jack. To me if he were someone else possessing him wouldn't they think they were themselves...and notice they were in Sayid's body...would Charlie pretend he was Sayid? I dont think that follows with the characters. I genuinely think that Sayid thinks he IS Sayid. However he isn't. He is claimed.

[LissaMarie]

Some of us noticed that the infected seemed to act like other members on the island, like some that had been killed previously. I'm starting to think that may be a possibility, but it's still kind of soon to know for sure. It did seem interesting for Claire to make the exact same kind of traps that Rousseau used to make. I don't recall the two characters being close in life.

I don't really belive that anyone is posessed by another character. I guess what I'm thinking at this point is that they just assume the same role as other players who have died. It's like there is a limited amount of roles to play on the island but the characters or souls that play out those roles are interchangeable. Does that makes sense?

[FoundOnLost]

Do you recall the scenes lastyr involving Miles and CLaire and Sawyer threatening MIles if he looks at her wrong?

Seems he took an interst in her then.

We also have the scene when she wakes up at the house after the explosion and I think Sawyer asked her how shewas feeling and she said she had a headache or sometrhing but "at least I'll live" and Miles responded saying "I wouldnt be so sure about that"

I talked about this last season and thought it was important comment by MIles.

Interstingly enough, Miles said something very similar when Hurley said to Miles that Sayid will be OK and MIles responded saying something very close to the comment he made to Claire.

Think these wre little subtle hints that we were being clued into about Sayid and Claire's fate

Very good observations! Claire definitely looked like French lady when it first showed her. And what about all those traps? Sawyer wouldn't know how to set them. It seems to me that Claire probably did die and get taken over by Rosseau (French Lady). Same thing with Sayid. Seems he is probably going to be taken over by Jacob.

[wvugurl]

Some of us noticed that the infected seemed to act like other members on the island, like some that had been killed previously. I'm starting to think that may be a possibility, but it's still kind of soon to know for sure. It did seem interesting for Claire to make the exact same kind of traps that Rousseau used to make. I don't recall the two characters being close in life.

i do agree...remember the guy said it looked like one of rousseaus traps and the other said she was dead then he stared at him...

[wvugurl]

Yeah but I was just thinking that maybe the reason why they took Claire's baby and Rousseau's baby was because they were both infected and claimed. Remember Widdy was the one who ordered Ben to take Rousseau's baby. Just thinking "out loud".


well this would make sense because claire came to kate in her dream screaming to never bring aaron back...but then again, why would claire leave him in the woods alone

[whitestar2]

Jin has been shown not only interact w/ numerous characters after the explosion...he traveled through time, i can't see how anyone can think he has been dead all this time.....and don't you think the Temple Others (not to mention Miles and Hurley) would have been aware of the fact that a ghost was walking around w/ them......or driving Dharma Jeeps/ firing guns etc. ?:confused:


I don't think Jin is dead either, but it makes me wonder about Danielle. I've always wondered how the hell she survived for 16 years not only avoiding the Others, but smokey and MiB. She trusted Ben--who she knew took Alex from her. She joined up with Locke's group when they divided up--one half going with Jack, the other with Locke. If she was a ghost it would give smokey/MiB a good way to observe Locke. It would explain the guy with Aldo-- his comment that Rousseau has been dead for years. Questions wrapped in an enigma indeed!!

[Lost Down Under]

Sayid seem to think he was still Sayid. He remembers being shot and remembers Jack. To me if he were someone else possessing him wouldn't they think they were themselves...and notice they were in Sayid's body...would Charlie pretend he was Sayid? I dont think that follows with the characters. I genuinely think that Sayid thinks he IS Sayid. However he isn't. He is claimed.

IDK. Remember when fLocke was on the beach in Series 5 and he said "I remember dieing". When Sayid said he remembers being shot it immediately reminded me of that line of Flocke's

[neo]

So what do you guys think about Claire at the end of the episode?? She def was prego so where is Aron. She is the one setting the traps. She looks crazy ha. What do you guys think???

[Brando]

my thought is that history repeats itself on the island & that claire is the new Danielle Russo

Danielle Russo arrived onto the island pregnant & so did claire but my only problem with this theroy is that Aaron got off the island

Another thing i just thought of is when Eloise Hawking said everyone had to return to the island Aaron didn't need 2?

official brainfry :D

[Turnip Queen]

She does have a striking resemblance to Rousseau - the facial expression, wild hair, rifle, poise...I'm dying to see what happens next!

[losttime]

Sayid seem to think he was still Sayid. He remembers being shot and remembers Jack. To me if he were someone else possessing him wouldn't they think they were themselves...and notice they were in Sayid's body...would Charlie pretend he was Sayid? I dont think that follows with the characters. I genuinely think that Sayid thinks he IS Sayid. However he isn't. He is claimed.

The fact that he remembers what happens tells me the spring didnt do what is was supposed to.

Richard explained and we saw with young Ben that they dont remember what happened to them when they get healed.

At minimum it suggests to me that the pool had nothing to do with his return.

I am sure others will disagree but from what i see on the show I dont see it having anything to do with the pool why he is "alive"

[CompletelyLost]

Claire definitely acts (and looks) like Rouseau. Sayid doesn't act like Sayid, and I strongly believe he is Jacob-- seeing how after Jacob died, he showed up to Hurley and told him to take Sayid to the Temple. He was also looking at Sayid like he was making a plan (or already had one)(I believe he is one step ahead of MiB). Jack, when he was on the plane (in alternate timeline?) was looking at himself in the mirror kind of... different. Someone has suggested he acted like Daniel. I honestly don't know what is going on, but these people are not acting like themselves.

Claimed. What would that mean? That someone "dead" claimed their body?