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CZAR
02-29-2008, 12:34 PM
The thought occured to me this morning just how deep Ben's string pulling may go. Ben may not have been able to reveal who is man is on the boat, even if he wanted to, because his man may very well be Sayid. Sayid seems to be playing along however does not seem to be very distrurbed by the events on the boat. Could this be because Ben sent him back in time to impact the events on the boat. He could even be responsible for planting the right settings for the machine to give the 1996 Daniel. Should that prove to be true; who is Sayid's constant? Could it be Desmond or perhaps one of the other boat members? Ben also does not seem very concerned about is confinement; perhaps he already knows the outcome.

bunnydixon
02-29-2008, 12:42 PM
i am not so sure as someone did help them on the boat so i think this points to michael again.

although there is a lot of folks who think it may be sayid.

LostFreak21
02-29-2008, 12:46 PM
I wonder who opened the door for them. Sayid did seem pretty calm though.

ecw0930
02-29-2008, 01:24 PM
I am VERY curious as to why everyone thinks Sayid is BAD!?!?!?!? We know he's with Ben AFTER the island.... and most people theorize that it's out of need, not want.

Why does everyone think Sayid is WITH Ben?!

The possibility does exist though... knowing about timeshift now... that LITERALLY EVERYTHING can change as we know it.

check this.... Sayid is good as we know him NOW. But with Timeshift, as Faraday proved with his journal changing.... with timeshift, Sayid can CHANGE if Ben went back in time, got ahold of Sayid and changed his mindframe.... then it wouldn't take affect until AFTER their meeting... just like Faraday. Anyone following me with that?

Apocolypse
02-29-2008, 01:30 PM
I am VERY curious as to why everyone thinks Sayid is BAD!?!?!?!? We know he's with Ben AFTER the island.... and most people theorize that it's out of need, not want.

Why does everyone think Sayid is WITH Ben?!

The possibility does exist though... knowing about timeshift now... that LITERALLY EVERYTHING can change as we know it.

check this.... Sayid is good as we know him NOW. But with Timeshift, as Faraday proved with his journal changing.... with timeshift, Sayid can CHANGE if Ben went back in time, got ahold of Sayid and changed his mindframe.... then it wouldn't take affect until AFTER their meeting... just like Faraday. Anyone following me with that?

Yeah, besides...Sayid wouldn't be able to be two places at once and unlock the door for himself. He wasn't the one that locked it to begin with.

hyperRevue
02-29-2008, 01:56 PM
Yeah, besides...Sayid wouldn't be able to be two places at once and unlock the door for himself. He wasn't the one that locked it to begin with.

Maybe we got some Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure stuff going on. "Remember to unlock the door. Remember to unlock the door." and, voila, it's unlocked.

I don't really think that, by the way. I think it's Michael and/or Walt.

LostFreak21
02-29-2008, 02:00 PM
I think Sayid is a good person. Look how he took care of Desmond. Maybe it was Naomi who opened the door. Maybe when they went off track it brought her back to life. Just thinking out loud.

hyperRevue
02-29-2008, 02:04 PM
I think Sayid is a good person. Look how he took care of Desmond. Maybe it was Naomi who opened the door. Maybe when they went off track it brought her back to life. Just thinking out loud.

I agree. Well, not with the Naomi thing, that's just ridiculous.

But I agree that Sayid is good. Just because he's working for Ben in the future doesn't mean he's bad.

A) He's working with Ben to help protect his friends on the island

B) I think it's VERY likely that Ben is going to turn out to be on the good side of this "war."

LostFreak21
02-29-2008, 02:14 PM
If the day on the boat is before Naomi died that is what I was thinking.

hyperRevue
02-29-2008, 02:17 PM
If the day on the boat is before Naomi died that is what I was thinking.

So you're theorizing that they went back in time a few days when they travelled from the island to the boat?

I think the calendar on the wall of the radio room disproves that.

LostFreak21
02-29-2008, 02:22 PM
I am just wondering why about the calendar. Do we know exactly how long they have been on the Island? How many days or hours has it been since Naomi died? What happens if it has only been hours and the difference on the boat is only hours. Maybe that is why Sayid insisted on taking her with them because he know about this stuff.

suzisunshine1
02-29-2008, 02:24 PM
I don't think that Ben's insider on the freighter is anyone that is a survivor of the crash. That would be too easy. Maybe his insider is Annie. Maybe that's how she survived the purge was being banished from the island to the freighter. Maybe it was the other guy who traveled in time that died in Sayid's arms so they no longer have an alli. Maybe it's the pilot, he did afterall say he's on their side or trying to help them (something to that effect). I think that if they get too much more into this time travel thing the majority of viewers will get confused and angry b/c it's just too much to believe that all these people have been traveling back and forth in time.

SoLOST
02-29-2008, 02:35 PM
You are right. It is was to confusing for me to think that ALL these people "stuck" on the island have been time traveling all this time. It would, however answer questions about people showing up who should not be, but I totally cannot wrap my head around the whole island is time traveling day in and day out. To what advantage ?

I do not think that Sayid is Bens man on the boat.

suzisunshine1
02-29-2008, 02:43 PM
SoLost: What do you mean it explains people showing up on the island that shouldn't be?

Boris
02-29-2008, 04:29 PM
Food for thought...

Benjamin is from the Hebrew Bin Yamin, the son of the Right (hand), or son of strength, or the son of the South (yamin or right has lots of connotations). The "Bin" means "son of," just as in modern colloquial Arabic.

John is from the Hebrew Yochanan, or gift of God, which became Johan and then John.

Sayid is from the Arabic al-Sayyid, "the lord."

bubbleboy
03-10-2008, 01:32 AM
Maybe we got some Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure stuff going on. "Remember to unlock the door. Remember to unlock the door." and, voila, it's unlocked.

I don't really think that, by the way. I think it's Michael and/or Walt.

I always had the gut feeling that it was Michael, but in the last episode when Locke asked Ben about it, Ben told Locke something to the effect that he better sit down first meaning it would be a shocking answer. I don't think Michael being on the boat would be all that shocking and either would Annie. Sayid on the other hand, would have to be effectively in two places at once which should be a mind blowing concept for Locke or anyone else.

GodlessM
03-10-2008, 02:30 AM
Michael is Ben's man. Ben had no contact with the others before
freighter-folk started to appear. Plus Michael is back in the next episode
and aswell, in next episode the spy is revealed.

Sayid does what he does in the future to protect his friends, end
of story.

And all the talk about travelling in time, Desmond is a one hit
wonder right now, the whole plot isn't revolving around time travel,
The Constant was more of a way of explaining Desmond more and
tieing up his loose ends.

GodlessM
03-10-2008, 02:36 AM
Actually Michael being there would be enough to stun Locke
as Locke sees Michael as a betrayer, and if you even saw the
Season4 trailer, Locke tells Michael that he doesn't deserve to be back
despite helping them.

Annie is dead btw!

The time travel thing is confusing everyone alright but a look
into a little genetics helps that, if you understand genetics of course.

To put it simple, there is no time travel to and from the island as
such. This should be seen clearly as it only happens to some people
and the fact that Feriday can sum it all up with equations.
It happened to Desmond because the electromagnetism from the
hatch exploding displaced him in time. None of the other survivors
or Ben are travelling in time.

And time travel has nothing to do with how others found the island,
it's quite simply because it's a real place. Simple as!

GodlessM
03-10-2008, 02:59 AM
Ok it is confirmed that Michael is Ben's man.
Pictures from episode 8 are available on Wikipedia with
pictures of Sayid confronting Ben's spy, and showing the spy to be none other than Michael. Check it out, just search Lost episode guide on Wikipedia.

midwestprof
03-10-2008, 04:46 AM
dont think its sayid on the boat for the reasons mentioned, but though I have believed that micheal is the likely candidate, something about the red herring propensity of the writters leads me to believe that it might not be micheal. thinking this through, who else on the island could possibly be on the boagt?" could be christian, or what about the guy who died from the mysterious ;poison that mimicked death and then was buried alive (who was that again?). we dont absolutely know he was dead. still think its micheal though

PacmanIsLost
03-10-2008, 05:21 AM
Ok it is confirmed that Michael is Ben's man.
Pictures from episode 8 are available on Wikipedia with
pictures of Sayid confronting Ben's spy, and showing the spy to be none other than Michael. Check it out, just search Lost episode guide on Wikipedia.


easy on the spoilers