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boutte
03-14-2010, 03:55 PM
i got his idea from a post by Tcragg in another thread. He says Ben is the greatest TV villain ever.

Is he right? Who else should be on the list? I'll have to think about it some before I nominate anyone.

bunnydixon
03-14-2010, 04:05 PM
http://www.hotink.com/wacky/pitstop/hclaw.gif


this guy should be a contender lol!

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:05 PM
OK here's three, Skylar from Heros, Balter from Battle Star Galactica and his blonde Cylon girl friend.

Oh yeah, the bad guy from Lost in Space. You have to be a hundred years old to remember him though.

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 04:06 PM
tv only or movies?

i would nominate Emerson again, but for his role on the Practice as a crazy serial killer guy.

movies, i'd say hanibal lecter or jack nicholson in the shining.

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:11 PM
http://www.hotink.com/wacky/pitstop/hclaw.gif


this guy should be a contender lol!
Who is he?

How about...
http://www.thecylindershoppe.ca/Pinky.gif ?

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:12 PM
tv only or movies?

i would nominate Emerson again, but for his role on the Practice as a crazy serial killer guy.

movies, i'd say hanibal lecter or jack nicholson in the shining.

I was thinking TV only. There are just way too many movie villains.

bunnydixon
03-14-2010, 04:12 PM
thats the hooded claw - he was always after penelope pitstop lol!

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:13 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NepJ0LrRrLU/SB3XdrLyNeI/AAAAAAAAACo/WGA0mFnT5ck/s1600/Mr_Burns.png

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 04:15 PM
Who is he?

How about...
http://www.thecylindershoppe.ca/Pinky.gif ?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NepJ0LrRrLU/SB3XdrLyNeI/AAAAAAAAACo/WGA0mFnT5ck/s1600/Mr_Burns.png

wait! i change my vote ! these two are pretty awesome!

bunnydixon
03-14-2010, 04:17 PM
t-bag from prison break? he was a fun villian :)

tcragg
03-14-2010, 04:19 PM
Yes, Pinky and the Brain. Of course.

Sylar in Heroes was great until that show started to completely suck.

More...

Dallas: JR

Superman: Lex Luthor

Batman: The Joker, The Penguin

Prison Break: T-Bag

Oz: Adibisi

the Simpsons: Mr. Burns, Unibrow baby

Entourage: Seth Green as himself

Family Guy: the Chicken

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:21 PM
Dallas: JR

Ooh... good one!

mahalo_dude
03-14-2010, 04:21 PM
*Ahem*




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/Gargamel_and_Azrael_from_the_Smurfs.jpg/494px-Gargamel_and_Azrael_from_the_Smurfs.jpg

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:24 PM
Best looking villain
http://www.pwnordie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/TriciaHelfer1.jpg

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:27 PM
Yes, Pinky and the Brain. Of course.

Sylar in Heroes was great until that show started to completely suck.

More...

Dallas: JR

Superman: Lex Luthor

Batman: The Joker, The Penguin

Prison Break: T-Bag

Oz: Adibisi

the Simpsons: Mr. Burns, Unibrow baby

Entourage: Seth Green as himself

Family Guy: the Chicken

Good ones .

tcragg
03-14-2010, 04:29 PM
Yes, the Smurfs! Gargamel!! Animated villains should have their own category. Who was the bad guy in Inspector Gadget? He was good. The Decepticons, Snake Eyes, Mumra, the list goes forever with 80s cartoons alone.

I was thinking about this more and I figured out Ben's equal:

JOHN LITHGOW in anything.

He is a nerd like Emerson, and yet he's still badass. Dexter is pretty good, but I didn't really get into it. He's frightening. Even when he made Harry go into the woods. think about it.

mahalo_dude
03-14-2010, 04:29 PM
http://images.quizilla.com/P/procrasti-nate/1049413825_boss.jpg

tcragg
03-14-2010, 04:30 PM
http://images.quizilla.com/P/procrasti-nate/1049413825_boss.jpg

Good catch maholo

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:30 PM
Who's old enough to remember her?
http://www.reelcomix.com/admin/admin_images/julie-newmar-catwoman.jpg

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:32 PM
Yes, the Smurfs! Gargamel!! Animated villains should have their own category. Who was the bad guy in Inspector Gadget? He was good. The Decepticons, Snake Eyes, Mumra, the list goes forever with 80s cartoons alone.

I was thinking about this more and I figured out Ben's equal:

JOHN LITHGOW in anything.

He is a nerd like Emerson, and yet he's still badass. Dexter is pretty good, but I didn't really get into it. He's frightening. Even when he made Harry go into the woods. think about it.

He played a great villain on Dexter. His role was over pretty quick though. Dexter is a great villain too.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:32 PM
"mmm... Julie Newmar."

mahalo_dude
03-14-2010, 04:32 PM
Yes, the Smurfs! Gargamel!! Animated villains should have their own category. Who was the bad guy in Inspector Gadget? He was good. The Decepticons, Snake Eyes, Mumra, the list goes forever with 80s cartoons alone.

I was thinking about this more and I figured out Ben's equal:

JOHN LITHGOW in anything.

He is a nerd like Emerson, and yet he's still badass. Dexter is pretty good, but I didn't really get into it. He's frightening. Even when he made Harry go into the woods. think about it.


Oh, my dear boy, Snake Eyes was a hero! And, IIRC, the villain in Inspector Gadget was Dr. Claw. Yeah, animated baddies could be their own category.:D

mahalo_dude
03-14-2010, 04:33 PM
Who's old enough to remember her?
http://www.reelcomix.com/admin/admin_images/julie-newmar-catwoman.jpg


Oh, yes. Puurrrfect.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:34 PM
You two just "outed" yourselves as Smurfs watchers... :D

mahalo_dude
03-14-2010, 04:35 PM
You two just "outed" yourselves as Smurfs watchers... :D


Gaahh! I'm cursed! It follows me wherever I go!!!

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:37 PM
:D Now I have the theme song, running thru my head.

* shakes fist at Mahalo *

tcragg
03-14-2010, 04:41 PM
Oh, my dear boy, Snake Eyes was a hero! And, IIRC, the villain in Inspector Gadget was Dr. Claw. Yeah, animated baddies could be their own category.:D

I knew that was wrong when I wrote it, was thinking of course of cobra commander. I loved GI Joe, thats why I boycotted the movie version.

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:43 PM
http://www.othervoices.org/1.3/skunkle/borgqueen.gif
eem to be stuck on females.

How about
http://wiw.org/~jess/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ethan.jpg
Ethan?

or
http://z.about.com/d/lost/1/0/U/e/-/-/Alex-Pleads.jpg
Keamy

Now that I think about it Ben has some pretty stiff competition on Lost.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:47 PM
This is a fun 'memory jog.' :cool:

So far, I think J.R. Ewing is my front runner...

tcragg
03-14-2010, 04:47 PM
Ethan, Keamy and Widmore are solid, but Ben was always on another level.

JD>>
I am a Smurfs fan, not that there's anything wrong with that.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:49 PM
My only issue with Ben Linus, (besides recent developments) is that we saw him as a kid, and how he was treated.

... villains should never be 'felt sorry for.'

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:49 PM
This is a fun 'memory jog.' :cool:

So far, I think J.R. Ewing is my front runner...
I think Sylar is the worst. T-Bag was pretty terrible too.

Let's not forget the Smoking Man from the X-Files.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:51 PM
JD>>
I am a Smurfs fan, not that there's anything wrong with that.

It's all good. I tease, but I'm confident I've watched worse. :D

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 04:52 PM
I think Sylar is the worst. T-Bag was pretty terrible too.

Let's not forget the Smoking Man from the X-Files.

See, that's where my ignorance, hinders me... I don't really know them.
(except for smoking man)

boutte
03-14-2010, 04:55 PM
See, that's where my ignorance, hinders me... I don't really know them.
(except for smoking man)

Sylar is from Heros which I haven't watched in 2 years and T-Bag is from Prison Break which sucked big time after the first season.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 05:03 PM
I've watched Heroes a couple of times.

But I can't give them a nod for 'best ever.' I'm just not familiar enough.

chester
03-14-2010, 05:06 PM
Movie: Azazel, from 'Fallen'.

TV: Smokey.

Maybe they're the same? ;)

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 05:09 PM
Movie: Azazel, from 'Fallen'.

TV: Smokey.

Maybe they're the same? ;)

you don't know smokey is a villian. :D

tcragg
03-14-2010, 05:10 PM
I just dropped an A bomb on Season 6 forum. HAHAHA. So funny, but my thought is, 'Is Kate Austen the best TV Villain ever?'

Her 'slutty' behavior, back and forth and acting have got a lot of people hoping she dies.

I don't care either way, she's hotness personified.

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 05:15 PM
I just dropped an A bomb on Season 6 forum. HAHAHA. So funny, but my thought is, 'Is Kate Austen the best TV Villain ever?'

Her 'slutty' behavior, back and forth and acting have got a lot of people hoping she dies.

I don't care either way, she's hotness personified.

oh geezzz:rolleyes: she's not slutty. she is just lame and moronic. her acts are selfish to the core and completely nonsensical.

the real slut is sawyer, but we love him anyway. :D sluttiness is a virtue to be valued. :D

chester
03-14-2010, 05:16 PM
you don't know smokey is a villian. :D

He just killed all those people at the temple...:p

tcragg
03-14-2010, 05:17 PM
oh geezzz:rolleyes: she's not slutty. she is just lame and moronic. her acts are selfish to the core and completely nonsensical.

the real slut is sawyer, but we love him anyway. :D sluttiness is a virtue to be valued. :D

I'm with you Rachelskid. No double standards for me. Not until I have a daughter at least.

I hope all the female characters left are spared, unlike the others before them.

boutte
03-14-2010, 05:17 PM
I've watched Heroes a couple of times.

But I can't give them a nod for 'best ever.' I'm just not familiar enough.

T-Bag was one of the most despicable characters ever!

stargazer
03-14-2010, 05:22 PM
Nina Myers-24
Simon Cowell

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 05:22 PM
He just killed all those people at the temple...:p

Ben: So? :p

boutte
03-14-2010, 05:30 PM
Nina Myers-24
Simon Cowell

Al Swearington. Deadwood.

stargazer
03-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Al Swearington. Deadwood.

Oooo Eric Northman, True Blood

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Oooo Eric Northman, True Blood

Eric is not a villain. :(

he's hot. :D

boutte
03-14-2010, 05:36 PM
Eric is not a villain. :(

he's hot. :D
Are you sure? What about Maryann?

stargazer
03-14-2010, 05:38 PM
Eric is not a villain. :(

he's hot. :D

Oh I completely agree, but hes baaaaaaaaaaaad:D

stargazer
03-14-2010, 05:38 PM
Are you sure? What about Maryann?

Oh yeah, shes worse for sure. And DEAD!

boutte
03-14-2010, 05:43 PM
Number 6 Tricia (Helfer's character on BSG) killed a baby in stroller and laughed while she did it.

Should we consider Saiid a villain now?

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 05:43 PM
Are you sure? What about Maryann?

yes, yes. Maryann is a villain. i agree. and she is a hottie, i can see that too.

Oh I completely agree, but hes baaaaaaaaaaaad:D

i just don't think Eric is bad. he has done some sh!tty things, but also some good ones too. i like Eric so much better then Bill. come to think of it, Bill v. Eric is a LOT like Jack v. Sawyer. hmmmmmm

JohnQ
03-14-2010, 08:00 PM
My favorite TV villain was The Grinch, and I kinda hate that he turned good at the end.
My favorite movie villain was HAL in 2001. I know it's a computer, but I view him as a villain. Hannibal Lecter wins best human villain, unredeemable.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 08:49 PM
I don't care either way, she's hotness personified.

She's a set of implants away from being a "10."

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 08:58 PM
She's a set of implants away from being a "10."

:eek::eek::eek:
:confused:

wha??? sheesh. tough crowd.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 09:00 PM
Sorry, I just got bored of talking about killing her.
Figured, I'd change things up a little... :D

rachelskid
03-14-2010, 09:03 PM
Sorry, I just got bored of talking about killing her.
Figured, I'd change things up a little... :D

let's go back to talking about her imminent demise instead. :)

OUCH. :p poor evie.

notsolost42
03-14-2010, 09:09 PM
My vote for greatest television villian of all times has to be Jack Nicholson in anything.

LostShark4970
03-14-2010, 09:10 PM
Man... You guys seem to have caught them all. So many good names on this list. i am going to go with John Lithgow as the Trinity killer on Dexter. Granted he only had one season, but what a season. In those few episodes he gave me nightmares and chills. Lithgow is brilliant and pulled of a twisted serial killer with style... all the way to his last line... "It's already over."

LostShark4970
03-14-2010, 09:11 PM
My vote for greatest television villian of all times has to be Jack Nicholson in anything.

But was Jack ever a t.v. villan? i couldn't recall him in anything.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 09:14 PM
My vote for greatest television villian of all times has to be Jack Nicholson in anything.

Maybe not Terms Of Endearment... :D

notsolost42
03-14-2010, 09:15 PM
Maybe not Terms Of Endearment... :D

lmao! You got me there JD!!! :mad::D:cool:

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 09:17 PM
:D I was going to say Hoffa... but he was kind of a jerk, too.

notsolost42
03-14-2010, 09:21 PM
Hoffa, wow, I can't even remember that one. :confused: It is vague.

JfromtheD
03-14-2010, 09:23 PM
Jimmy Hoffa. And Danny DeVito was in it, too.

Actually, it was filmed here "intheD." :D

notsolost42
03-14-2010, 09:24 PM
Jimmy Hoffa. And Danny DeVito was in it, too.

Actually, it was filmed here "intheD." :D

I really don't remember it much at all! I don't know why either. I like DiVito. He is pretty funny. JHintheD. heeheehee

LostShark4970
03-14-2010, 09:25 PM
well, if we are throwing movies in the mix... i will have to counter Jack with Heath... a new Depth to the Joker... and honestly, if i hadnt known it was Heath Ledger, i never would have guessed it. To me his performance was Brilliant... and i would also toss a nod to Christoph Waltz as the "Jew Hunter" in Inglorious Basterds.

boutte
03-15-2010, 12:04 PM
Throwing movies in completely changes the whole idea of the thread. I did a thread about that once. I'll see if I can find it.

beachblinkette
03-15-2010, 09:46 PM
The character Swearingen from the TV series Deadwood. He made a great Western/Shakespearean villain.

Junglist
03-15-2010, 10:36 PM
I always thought this guy was one of the best too:

http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1286680/article_images/twin3.jpg

Jeremy
03-15-2010, 11:37 PM
Robotnik from the old Sonic tv show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFFDHYr_GsI

McBain
03-16-2010, 12:03 AM
One word: MENDOZA!

steedo79
03-16-2010, 04:23 AM
Yes, Pinky and the Brain. Of course.

Sylar in Heroes was great until that show started to completely suck.

More...

Dallas: JR

Superman: Lex Luthor

Batman: The Joker, The Penguin

Prison Break: T-Bag

Oz: Adibisi

the Simpsons: Mr. Burns, Unibrow baby

Entourage: Seth Green as himself

Family Guy: the Chicken

no no no family guy the angry monkey!

Nemesis Prime
03-16-2010, 05:02 AM
Had to get my personal favorite in here.


http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/G-LEVEL/megatron.jpg

Junglist
03-16-2010, 05:40 AM
I'm glad you posted a pic of the real megatron.

what about this guy?

http://usuarios.multimania.es/toxicoyeah2/tftm/unicron_deletedscene.jpg;)

Junglist
03-16-2010, 05:42 AM
and one more bad MF:

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/blog/Raymond_Cruz.jpg

Nemesis Prime
03-16-2010, 05:44 AM
What was the first pic? I couldn't see it.

Junglist
03-16-2010, 05:45 AM
Most hilarious (wannabe) villain:

http://www.insidesocal.com/southbay/dwight_schrute_396x222.jpg

Junglist
03-16-2010, 05:45 AM
What was the first pic? I couldn't see it.

unicron (1984)

Nemesis Prime
03-16-2010, 06:03 AM
Ahhh, yes. That is a good one too. I believe he is going to be in the third installment of the movie series.

LissaMarie
03-16-2010, 09:38 AM
Most hilarious (wannabe) villain:

http://www.insidesocal.com/southbay/dwight_schrute_396x222.jpg

LOL!! I love this one, Jung!! The eyes are the groin of the face, you know. ;) :D

ortrules
03-16-2010, 10:42 AM
http://aura1.gaia.com/photos/7/65465/large/professor_chaos.jpg

Kurtster
03-16-2010, 11:01 AM
Boris Badinoff --- he was one badass MF

Fysh19
03-16-2010, 11:15 AM
" Lucifer ", from Supernatural. :p


BTW, i can understand all the Sylar villian love , but Tim Kring turned him into a Hero, in the season 4 finale. Yeah, i know- go figure.:rolleyes:

JfromtheD
03-16-2010, 11:37 AM
Boris Badinoff --- he was one badass MF

"Must kill Moose and Squirrel!" :mad: :D