Another time theory, You gotta a problem wid dat, Hey, yo!

[Robo42]

This theory may have been discussed previously, and prob. will end up on the heap with many others. it has to do with What daniel said to des back at Oxford. He said his equation has no constants, so you need to pick one.
I admit I would prob. never be accepted into any reputable Physics PHd program.
However, I have studied calculus and physics, mostly Newtonian, and i can't recall being able to solve any aquation without a constant somewher. that is the nature of an equation, it has to equate to something.
i also can't think of any constant at least with respect to earth that is not related to time in some fashion. The force of gravity for example.
Therfoer if Daniel's equation has no constant, it therefore must preclude time in it's solution. So maybe we can look at everything as not having to do with time, but rather the absence of it.
Also if Dharma, hanso, etal were trying to stop the world from ending, one way to succeed is to end time as we know it. You can't have a beginning or an end to something (ie the human race), unless you can relate it time.
Any thoughts?

[banginailz]

After reading that let me go take a ride in my tang and think about it my head hurts. Time is irrelivent .spelling. Time is only in our minds.We created time.Time is of this earth. If we leave this earth time changes.

[bunnydixon]

in which context do you mean constant? in terms of the equation or in terms of the daniels explanation of a constant?

i looked at some equations and there were a lot that did not have constants within them and not related to time. although most newtonian ones did involve time in some way.

[Robo42]

As I said nails, it may end up on the heap. LOL However, It's always a good time to ride in your stang, not just when a whacky theory gives you a seizure. LOl

[Robo42]

The constant in terms of his equation, B He said it had no constant involved, which is why you had to pick your own( which also prob. would not involve time).
What equation did you see that had no constant relative to time. I'm not questioning you, it's for my own curiosity so my head won't hurt as much.LOL
Does it at least make some sort of logical sense, even if it is way off?

[bunnydixon]

well the equation for volume - no time, no constant! in literal terms anyway. also rick has a degree in maths so he told me a couple but i started to zone out then lol!

[Robo42]

I agree, but volume uses units of distance/length, which are arbitrary and not constants. A meter is a unit we made up to keep things in order. I'm thinking the few true constants that exist, ie the speed of sound, speed of light, gravity. They are all constants no matter from what perspective you look at them, they can't change. Time units are also made up, but they relate to time and motion of the planets, which are constant in basic terms.

[Robo42]

For example the speed of light will never change, it is constant, where as a volume can change depending upon it's dimensions.

[bunnydixon]

so how could we remove time?

[bunnydixon]

For example the speed of light will never change, it is constant, where as a volume can change depending upon it's dimensions.

yeah i get that, i think thats what i was trying to say lol! emphasis on the think!

[Robo42]

B,I do'nt think we can in real life, but ithink you can for sci fi.
The point I'm ultimately trying to get to is that Des nor anybody else is time traveling, they are existing in all time frames at once. So from your perspective on the island, you are living in both 1996 and 2004 at the same time, or at least part of your consciousness/soul/spirt/sobconscious is.

[bunnydixon]

i think that is similar to the mental time travel think jacks brought up. or at least my understanding of it.

[Robo42]

Sorta like the diagram. You and the island are the hub, with an infinite amout of spokes of time radiating out and your soul is being shared on every spoke simulataneously.

[Robo42]

It could quite pssibly be a theory brought up previously. I just had a Eureka! moment and wanted to share. LOL

[bunnydixon]

and quite rightly - however your spoke thing has sent my mind off wandering. Its making me think its similar to the residual energy thing i was talking to you about but specific to yourself.

[bunnydixon]

right not related entirely but rick is playing an xbox game in which you have genetically absorbed all the memories of your ancestors and there is some technology available for these memories to be retrieved....and between where this has headed and the game idea, my brain is getting all worked up...as they could be linked in some way...

[Robo42]

What specific residual energy thing. LOl I truly don't remember
Enlighten me please.

[bunnydixon]

oh in one of my waffling pms! you know when people die, they leave a residual energy...possibly...

[Robo42]

Actually I like that theory, but I don't remember discussing it.
I feel like the entire forum is so close to solving this thing.!!!! AARGH!!!

[Robo42]

Okay, similar to your soul. It's just semantics, relax!!! LOL LOL

[bunnydixon]

oh yeah i see - spill my guts and all for nothing :p

lol!

its okay, i glaze over my own wafflings too ;)

[Robo42]

Now I remember. and you know I enjoy our PM wafflings. Do i dare ask you to recite all my wafflings?
I'd better shut up before you do. LOL

[bunnydixon]

yes best to ;) :p

lol!

my mind is really wandering with this one. and now i am wondering how psychology plays a part in all this aswell....i keep thinking about MPD and the symptoms for that too.

[jacksnurse]

This theory may have been discussed previously, and prob. will end up on the heap with many others. it has to do with What daniel said to des back at Oxford. He said his equation has no constants, so you need to pick one.
I admit I would prob. never be accepted into any reputable Physics PHd program.
However, I have studied calculus and physics, mostly Newtonian, and i can't recall being able to solve any aquation without a constant somewher. that is the nature of an equation, it has to equate to something.
i also can't think of any constant at least with respect to earth that is not related to time in some fashion. The force of gravity for example.
Therfoer if Daniel's equation has no constant, it therefore must preclude time in it's solution. So maybe we can look at everything as not having to do with time, but rather the absence of it.
Also if Dharma, hanso, etal were trying to stop the world from ending, one way to succeed is to end time as we know it. You can't have a beginning or an end to something (ie the human race), unless you can relate it time.
Any thoughts?

Robo....i just love it when u talk physics....a real turn on:).....LOL...i know what u are saying.....i am the same way...talking out loud and writing it all down just to get the stuff out of our heads so we don't pull a linda blair like i mentioned before....lol

[az-phil]

Huh? . . .

[Robo42]

This is why I just stick with the fun threads LOL. I am still stickin' with my spoke theory though.
P.S. Having someone turned on when I talk physics is in itself a turn on.
P.S.S. B, you and jacks have big windows. I feel like the both of you are staring at me because I've done or said something that now has me in trouble. LOL

[bunnydixon]

well we are gonna discipline you ;)

[Robo42]

Very, harshly i hope. I've been a very bad boy. HeHe

[bunnydixon]

you might wanna retract that, i had my eye on some of the err...aparatus..in the boat house ;)

[chester]

After reading that let me go take a ride in my tang and think about it my head hurts. Time is irrelivent .spelling. Time is only in our minds.We created time.Time is of this earth. If we leave this earth time changes.

Whoah! This banginailz dude is quickly becomming my guru...

[krakup]

Whoah! This banginailz dude is quickly becomming my guru...

time is relative?

[chester]

In a nutshell..

[bunnydixon]

awwww i miss robo - he rocked :D

[krakup]

awwww i miss robo - he rocked :D

he'll be back, final season

[chester]

awwww i miss robo - he rocked :D

I'd like to see banginailz and robo in a no holds barred caged showdown!! :D

[bunnydixon]

he'll be back, final season

a gal can dream lol!!

[tpbaxter]

I don't like those old posters. They keep trying to act like us, but they're not as good.

I bet this thread was hard to find though. This is a good bit of chestering, chester.

[chester]

I don't go digging. This is just stuff that randomly pops up as what the 'guests' are looking at...:)

[JfromtheD]

I do that, too. :D

I don't know how some of these people find these threads.
Yesterday, I ended up in some 'archive' section... it was all white.

Today, I ended up in the "HTML Sandbox."

I never knew we had a sandbox! :)

[tpbaxter]

I don't go digging. This is just stuff that randomly pops up as what the 'guests' are looking at...:)

either way, it was some great chestering you did. keep up the good work.

I do that, too. :D

I don't know how some of these people find these threads.
Yesterday, I ended up in some 'archive' section... it was all white.

Today, I ended up in the "HTML Sandbox."

I never knew we had a sandbox! :)

I bet most of those people end up here cause they did some internet search and found themselves on one of the forum pages. Actually I bet there is a fair number of guests who were just searching for porn and ended up here. Try to see if the weird obscure posts the guests are reading have dirty key words that would be found in a search.

[JfromtheD]

I can see it now...

Linda Lovelace and John Homes, starring in: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

(insert 70's music here)

[chester]

either way, it was some great chestering you did. keep up the good work.

Thanks. I'll try.

So chestering is digging up old posts?

What is tpbaxtering then? I'm assuming that's what you do when you have tpbaxteritis?

[Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid]

Thanks. I'll try.

So chestering is digging up old posts?

What is tpbaxtering then? I'm assuming that's what you do when you have tpbaxteritis?

at least you're not JD'ing:rolleyes:

[tpbaxter]

Thanks. I'll try.

So chestering is digging up old posts?

What is tpbaxtering then? I'm assuming that's what you do when you have tpbaxteritis?

chestering is the act of doing chester-like things. If there was a competition for chestering then you, chester, would have a very unfair advantage.

Personally, I think you have done a great job of chestering thus far and hope you continue to do so in the future. Frankly, I can't see how you won't.

^ Has a lot to say and has never been shy about sharing it!
< Thinks the TP Baxtering should be left to TP Baxter
v Thinks Mortimer was a perfectly good name but has a few more ideas!

I assume the same thing for tpbaxtering, although you should probably ask the person who coined the phrase for more a definitive answer. I'm not exactly sure who or what TP Baxter is, but I was guessing she was referring to me and it was just some kind of spacing and capitalization typo by LiSSa Ma R I e.

yeah - i only get baxter-itis once a month :p :p :eek:

Again, best to consult with the doctor who coined the name of this condition, but my best guess is that baxter-itis is something similar to PMS?

uh oh... looks like someone is coming down with a bad case of pung-itis!

pungitis is the condition of becoming more pung-like. For example, if you started to become fixated on breasts and providing sane and rational analogies that clearly explain time travel in Lost, then you might be coming down with a sever case of pung-itis.

[chester]

at least you're not JD'ing:rolleyes:

What is JDing?

And how about Here'sLOCKEing at you, kiding ? What's that about?

[tpbaxter]

What is JDing?

And how about Here'sLOCKEing at you, kiding ? What's that about?

I don't know. I think you should ask the people who coined those words.

[bunnydixon]

so what if i do some chestering during my baxter-itis?

[chester]

chestering is the act of doing chester-like things. If there was a competition for chestering then you, chester, would have a very unfair advantage.

Personally, I think you have done a great job of chestering thus far and hope you continue to do so in the future. Frankly, I can't see how you won't.

Thanks bax, i try. Just hope chestering is a good thing I suppose.


I assume the same thing for tpbaxtering, although you should probably ask the person who coined the phrase for more a definitive answer. I'm not exactly sure who or what TP Baxter is, but I was guessing she was referring to me and it was just some kind of spacing and capitalization typo by LiSSa Ma R I e.

Maybe that's LissaMarieing/LissaMarieitis? Was I being accused of tpbaxtering there? If so, is me tpbaxtering still chestering?


Again, best to consult with the doctor who coined the name of this condition, but my best guess is that baxter-itis is something similar to PMS?

LOL!!

pungitis is the condition of becoming more pung-like. For example, if you started to become fixated on breasts and providing sane and rational analogies that clearly explain time travel in Lost, then you might be coming down with a sever case of pung-itis.

I think you are right. Pung probably does have the most rational and sane analogies that support the delusion of WHH as the state of timetravel in LOST. Just that wee ontological problem to account for I suppose. ;)

[tpbaxter]

Thanks bax, i try. Just hope chestering is a good thing I suppose.

Not always.

I think you are right. Pung probably does have the most rational and sane analogies that support the delusion of WHH as the state of timetravel in LOST. Just that wee ontological problem to account for I suppose. ;)

^ case in point (http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/case+in+point).

[notsolost42]

ANd thus, a closed timelike curve is born.

[notsolost42]

I can see it now...

Linda Lovelace and John Homes, starring in: "Whatever Happened, Happened"

(insert 70's music here)

OMG! :eek: You are so bad! :D
Sa, I have this green door for sale....

[JfromtheD]

at least you're not JD'ing:rolleyes:

Hmm...
not sure how I should take that.

:( ?
-or-
:D ?

[JfromtheD]

OMG! :eek: You are so bad! :D
Sa, I have this green door for sale....

Oh, come on, admit it... that phrase, in that context, sounds like a 'skin flick.'
(actually, I'm just happy somebody finally 'got it.') :o

haha... "got it."
They just keep coming. :D

** hey, I'm here all week, tip the waitress, try the veal! **

[boutte]

I agree, but volume uses units of distance/length, which are arbitrary and not constants. A meter is a unit we made up to keep things in order. I'm thinking the few true constants that exist, ie the speed of sound, speed of light, gravity. They are all constants no matter from what perspective you look at them, they can't change. Time units are also made up, but they relate to time and motion of the planets, which are constant in basic terms.

Does sound move through water at the same as it does through air? Or some gas like helium? If not it's not constant.

I like the idea of ending time which jibes with my thought that by traveling back in time you automatically cause a loop which in effect ends time at the point at which you traveled back. (personally I think time travel is impossible)

[notsolost42]

Does sound move through water at the same as it does through air? Or some gas like helium? If not it's not constant.

I like the idea of ending time which jibes with my thought that by traveling back in time you automatically cause a loop which in effect ends time at the point at which you traveled back. (personally I think time travel is impossible)

I think sound travels at different speeds through different medium. And I agree completely Boutte, time travel is impossible....so far. It is only strictly a theoretic possibility and not widely accepted by the scientific community. I like your theory very much, btw.

[notsolost42]

Oh, come on, admit it... that phrase, in that context, sounds like a 'skin flick.'
(actually, I'm just happy somebody finally 'got it.') :o

haha... "got it."
They just keep coming. :D

** hey, I'm here all week, tip the waitress, try the veal! **

haha... oh yeah, I got it! :D

[boutte]

haha... oh yeah, I got it! :D

I'm jealous .

[notsolost42]

I'm jealous .

:(:o:p........

[krakup]

either way, it was some great chestering you did. keep up the good work.



I bet most of those people end up here cause they did some internet search and found themselves on one of the forum pages. Actually I bet there is a fair number of guests who were just searching for porn and ended up here. Try to see if the weird obscure posts the guests are reading have dirty key words that would be found in a search.

good point, the boobie station probably lures a lot of them.

[boutte]

so what if i do some chestering during my baxter-itis?

As long as you don't start Vinniing. That would just be wrong.