daniel and the rat - again!

[bunnydixon]

we were chatting about this in bed last night (gotta love the dirty talk ;) lol!) and how the fact that daniel sent the rat forward in time, she came back and ran the maze as she had been taught inside her future body. then she died. so not only had the future changed in the sense that she learned the maze before she was meant to, thus daniel never had to teach her, she died so she couldnt have learned the maze in the future as she was dead so how can she then come back and run it? which suggests things are either changing or paradoxes/parallel existences are being created. i thought the writes said no to both these but how can you explain it without using one?

[Meditate]

I thought that Daniel explained to Desmond that Eloise died because she (or rather her mind) didn't have an anchor, and her brain eventually had an aneurysm and she died.

Kinda why Des had to find his constant?

[Shangri-La]

I thought that Daniel explained to Desmond that Eloise died because she (or rather her mind) didn't have an anchor, and her brain eventually had an aneurysm and she died.

Kinda why Des had to find his constant?

yeah you are right but i dont think thats what bunny is trying to say and you are right that would creat some sort of paradox but this is a different kind of time travel with only your mind traveling so maybe we'll have to wait and see

[xlate_lostx]

Totall agree, like how can the rat go into the future and be trained if she actually never was trained in the first place!!!

I was thinking along the same lines like Daniel tells Desmond the Co-ordinates who tells Daniel again, so how did Daniel work them out?

[agmic]

shw went to the future, got trained, came back in time, and ran the maze...

[justjoe]

I like that she time traveled but her body didn't go anywhere.

[agmic]

only her sole or mind went....

[bunnydixon]

yeah i like that twist in the time travelling aspect but what body did her conscious go into if it was already dead? unless there was a change or paradox?

i understand why she died though.

[agmic]

but if she didn't go in the future, then she wouldn't have died. Correct ? I mean that the reason she dies was because she got confussed and her brain couldn't figure it out, put in the simplies form I could think of..... but again if she doesn't go to the future, she doesn't die......

[bunnydixon]

see i think you are agreeing with me essentialy. the writers said that the time travel aspect would not alter things but whether you like it or not - it does!

[agmic]

see i think you are agreeing with me essentialy. the writers said that the time travel aspect would not alter things but whether you like it or not - it does!

can't member for sure, but that wouldn't be the first time, essentially,,,,,,
but I want to know where this time travel came from ???????

[HisNameIsRobertPaulson]

They didn't cover their tracks well on this one.

- the rat must forget the maze
- the rat must then learn it again (taught by Daniel) before it dies

How much time passes between the time the rat executes the maze to near perfection and the time that the rat dies?

-HNIRP

[thelawgiver]

Daniel said he was going to teach Eloise the maze in an hour. Then Des passed out and went to the boat. When he came back to Daniel's lab time, Daniel said he had been out about seventy-five minutes. So in theory, Daniel could have taught her the maze, which she apparantly new. Then her brain exploded. So, could you teach a rat to run a maze in 15 minutes?

[bunnydixon]

they are pretty smart....:D