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notsolost42
04-11-2010, 08:14 PM
Just thought I'd share this article on a new scientific theory, a bit out there perhaps, that postulates our universe is in the wormhole that joins two black holes. Cool idea though. Maybe this can account for the island????

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/04/does-our-universe-live-inside-a-.html

abcd1234
04-12-2010, 08:17 AM
I guess I could see the island as some sort of thing stuck between 2 universes, although it would seem static compared to the worlds in stphen kings books that show the worlds eroding as they are being pulled from one universe to the other. i.e. our universe is much larger then the island, so at the rate our universe is expanding, would we see a much faster and destructive expansion on the island?

JfromtheD
04-12-2010, 11:26 AM
It seems like everyone wants to overlook the fact that gravity is weak.

Refrigerator magnets are just as strong as the big ass Earth's gravity. :D

But I did like this:
"And if our universe is now expanding toward the other end of the wormhole, this movement—rather than the elusive dark energy—could account for our expanding universe."

notsolost42
04-12-2010, 11:33 AM
It seems like everyone wants to overlook the fact that gravity is weak.

Refrigerator magnets are just as strong as the big ass Earth's gravity. :D

But I did like this:
"And if our universe is now expanding toward the other end of the wormhole, this movement—rather than the elusive dark energy—could account for our expanding universe."

YES!!! Wasn't that a very cool point?? But he doesn't have all his support for that worked out yet. Cool theory though, right?

JfromtheD
04-12-2010, 11:36 AM
Yes, and I'm not known as a fan of 'wormholes.'

notsolost42
04-12-2010, 11:39 AM
I was thinking of the island in that situation....

3d-aholic
04-12-2010, 12:00 PM
Without reading the article since I've read a bunch of theses and watched a bunch on it.

I really like this theory that blackholes are basically an entry/exit portal for other universes. Couple this with the discovery that a Blackhole actually sits exactly in the center of our Milky way glaxy and the research that at the center of EVERY galaxy is a blackhole IMHO supports this theory with the centric nature of matter as defined at the sub atomic level, at our solar system level and now possibly at the galaxy level.

So as vast as our universe as to be really already too big to wrap our head around and when you look at all the galaxys each containing a black hole, each thus leading to another universe...your mind staggers. It truely is what would seem to be at the heart of the definition of the word infinite. And I believe infinity extends in either direction from where we are which is why I don't believe sub-atomic particle research to be valid. We can find as many sub atomic particles as we want. We can find as many glaxies as we want. We can find as many universes as we want.

Why I always say the more we learn in science, the more its obvious there is a God.

JfromtheD
04-12-2010, 12:18 PM
So the universe on the other side, is regurgitating what the black hole, sucked in. Creating the 'expansion' of the universe?



This is a great statement! Not sure if I buy it, but I like the way it sounds.
→ "Why I always say the more we learn in science, the more its obvious there is a God."

notsolost42
04-12-2010, 12:23 PM
"In general relativity, a white hole is a region of spacetime which cannot be entered from the outside, but from which matter and light may escape. In this sense it is the reverse of a black hole, which can be entered from the outside, but from which nothing including light may escape. White holes appear in the theory of eternal black holes. In addition to a black hole region in the future, such a solution of the Einstein equations has a white hole region in its past.[1] This region does however not exist for black holes that have formed through gravitational collapse, nor are there any known physical processes through which a white hole could be formed."

Agree with your last statement JD. Great that someone can get that but I am not buying it myself.

abcd1234
04-12-2010, 01:47 PM
what would be on the other side of the black hole then? a universe like ours?

3d-aholic
04-12-2010, 08:28 PM
what would be on the other side of the black hole then? a universe like ours?

It could be a future black hole...as they are separate by time.


This is a great statement! Not sure if I buy it, but I like the way it sounds.
→ "Why I always say the more we learn in science, the more its obvious there is a God."
The purpose of science is to define our universe with some amount of precision so we can predict and calculate things...correct?

Well the new physics suggests the more we define the less precise our definition is getting. At the fringes or our world, the universe seems to be "indeterminate". We look for particles, we find more particles. We look to define events with precision and we get QM which predicts we can't know both time, place and event all at the same time and the universe is determined by the observer. Or Schrodingers wave equation which suggests the world is a complex probability equation. So we attempt to define our macro universe and what we discover is more universes and those universes might lead to even more universes.

Simply put, science FAILS to do its assigned task of defining, predicting anything with precision. Rather, after a sufficient amount of study, you learn you need "FAITH" even to continue to believe what the science is telling you because some of it defies logic. That to me is the definition of God.

Believe what you want.

boutte
04-13-2010, 04:20 PM
Without reading the article since I've read a bunch of theses and watched a bunch on it.

I really like this theory that blackholes are basically an entry/exit portal for other universes. Couple this with the discovery that a Blackhole actually sits exactly in the center of our Milky way glaxy and the research that at the center of EVERY galaxy is a blackhole IMHO supports this theory with the centric nature of matter as defined at the sub atomic level, at our solar system level and now possibly at the galaxy level.

So as vast as our universe as to be really already too big to wrap our head around and when you look at all the galaxys each containing a black hole, each thus leading to another universe...your mind staggers. It truely is what would seem to be at the heart of the definition of the word infinite. And I believe infinity extends in either direction from where we are which is why I don't believe sub-atomic particle research to be valid. We can find as many sub atomic particles as we want. We can find as many glaxies as we want. We can find as many universes as we want.

Why I always say the more we learn in science, the more its obvious there is a God.

Amen to that. Where physics goes wrong is that it's all about the physical. There's more to it than that.