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donothing
04-29-2010, 11:01 AM
In rewatching Ab Et Jacob fought hard to keep RA from stabbing him with the knife. In the Incident Jacob just stood there and let himself be stabbed. Why would he do that if there wasn't already a replacement? It doesn't change anything because we still don't know who it is but it might just explain why Jacob would let himself be killed with no resistance.

Seven_patch
04-29-2010, 11:20 AM
Personally, I think the difference between Jacob stopping Richard and not stopping Ben was that Ben had enough information to make his choice. Richard only had information given to him by MIB.

NoData
04-29-2010, 11:21 AM
In rewatching Ab Et Jacob fought hard to keep RA from stabbing him with the knife. In the Incident Jacob just stood there and let himself be stabbed.Yeah that's odd isn't it.Why would he do that if there wasn't already a replacement? It doesn't change anything because we still don't know who it is but it might just explain why Jacob would let himself be killed with no resistance.Maybe... Jacob said "It only ends once. Everything else is progress." With Jacob gone I think we're definitely watching the endgame.

Greg Dharma
04-29-2010, 12:22 PM
it might just explain why Jacob would let himself be killed with no resistance.

Jacob was willing to sacrifice himself to achieve his goal. it's the martyr principle. In Ab Et, he needed Richard as the candidates had not yet been brought to the island. in the Incident, the candidates were already on the island. Death obviously didnt faze him, nor prevent him from bringing Jack to the Lighthouse.

sprola
04-29-2010, 02:03 PM
In rewatching Ab Et Jacob fought hard to keep RA from stabbing him with the knife. In the Incident Jacob just stood there and let himself be stabbed. Why would he do that if there wasn't already a replacement? It doesn't change anything because we still don't know who it is but it might just explain why Jacob would let himself be killed with no resistance.

Maybe there won't be a replacement needed after all & Jacob knows that. Therefore, he didn't need to exist anymore to protect Smokie from leaving the island. When he realized that all of the candidates were back together on the island, he knew that despite their sins of the past, they were changed in so many ways. Together, they are smarter, more spiritual, and better people. He's entrusting their working as a team to find a way to beat/kill Smokie. After all, we've seen all of the Losties'/candidates back in the "real" world--some starting to remember their island experiences. No other group of "Others" could achieve this--only this special group. No more MIB=no more Jacob or replacement needed. Everyone lives happily ever after.......until he crops up in another corner of the planet & it starts all over again!

Kurtster
04-29-2010, 02:29 PM
In rewatching Ab Et Jacob fought hard to keep RA from stabbing him with the knife. In the Incident Jacob just stood there and let himself be stabbed. Why would he do that if there wasn't already a replacement? It doesn't change anything because we still don't know who it is but it might just explain why Jacob would let himself be killed with no resistance.

Jacob is only dead {but not gone} in 1 of the realities, --- and it's the reality he created {we as the viewers think it's the real reality, but I believe it's an alternate reality that Jacob himself created, -- {the sideways flashes I think are the REAL reality, and Jacob wasn't killed in that one}.

rachelskid
04-29-2010, 02:32 PM
Jacob was willing to sacrifice himself to achieve his goal. it's the martyr principle. In Ab Et, he needed Richard as the candidates had not yet been brought to the island. in the Incident, the candidates were already on the island. Death obviously didnt faze him, nor prevent him from bringing Jack to the Lighthouse.

^ this. the candidates were already there. "they're coming" - from the 70's. the candidates maintain the balance on the island and keep MIB there.

Desi420
04-29-2010, 02:41 PM
Here is the new cadidate

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad273/Sandsop/87b1acca.jpg

Desi420
04-29-2010, 02:44 PM
Jacob is only dead {but not gone} in 1 of the realities, --- and it's the reality he created {we as the viewers think it's the real reality, but I believe it's an alternate reality that Jacob himself created, -- {the sideways flashes I think are the REAL reality, and Jacob wasn't killed in that one}.

So he is just living under water on the island?

Kurtster
04-29-2010, 02:47 PM
Here is the new cadidate

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad273/Sandsop/87b1acca.jpg

Ohh it's all so simple now, --- they can just strap a jetpack to Gilligan and let him fly off the island to get help.
Thanks Desi, it's all so clear now :)

Kurtster
04-29-2010, 02:50 PM
So he is just living under water on the island?


Hmmm, technicalities :cool:

Desi420
04-29-2010, 02:51 PM
Ohh it's all so simple now, --- they can just strap a jetpack to Gilligan and let him fly off the island to get help.
Thanks Desi, it's all so clear now :)
That's what I'm here for.

rock-lobster
04-29-2010, 03:47 PM
In rewatching Ab Et Jacob fought hard to keep RA from stabbing him with the knife. In the Incident Jacob just stood there and let himself be stabbed. Why would he do that if there wasn't already a replacement? It doesn't change anything because we still don't know who it is but it might just explain why Jacob would let himself be killed with no resistance.

If Jacob had been stabbed by Richard there would've been no candidates to replace him, so MIB could've just left.

Now Jacob has candidates. Doesn't mean he's picked one in particular.

Horus
04-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Ohh it's all so simple now, --- they can just strap a jetpack to Gilligan and let him fly off the island to get help.
Thanks Desi, it's all so clear now :)

Why do that when they can just build a coconut radio instead?

Desi420
04-29-2010, 04:00 PM
If Jacob had been stabbed by Richard there would've been no candidates to replace him, so MIB could've just left.

Now Jacob has candidates. Doesn't mean he's picked one in particular.

But is that true? There were names all over that wall and wheel. I'm sure they dated back to further before Richard.


It would've been nice if they showed how Richard gathered up the "Others" but my opinion is that the Others didn't come about till the 50s