freighter's destroyed radio

[islander]

only someone that didn't want the word to leak out that survivors of 815 had been discovered would have a motive to destroy the ship's radio. so who would qualify?

if widmore is controlling the freighter, i could see him ordering the destruction of the radio to keep word from getting out since it doesn't look like the freighter has any interest in rescuing the losties. the freighter crew can use the sat phones to communicate to whomever is commanding the crew so losing the comm equipment wouldn't hurt them.

ben certainly would like to keep word from getting out as would locke and most of his sheep. i suppose richard would be with ben, but none of those people could keep the crew from communicating via the sat phones regarding the survivors so word could ultimately get out.

does it follow that the person controlling the freighter is behind the destruction of the radio?

who else might benefit from destroying the radio?

[Rain13]

I think the implication is that it was Ben's insider who destroyed the radio. Ben's primary motive all along has been to keep the island a secret, and he was clearly opposed to Jack calling the freighter-folk on the sat phone to begin with. Given that this is true, he certainly would want the freighter to lose contact with "him" (the guy who they are working for who Ben is apparently acquainted with as is proven by his conversation with Miles). Other than that, I can't really think of anyone else who would have a motive. The only evidence of Widmore's involvement in all of this seems to point to him being behind the freighter mission, not to him being opposed to it.

[bunnydixon]

i am still not sure about this but i dont think everyone on that boat has the same agenda. the fact that minkowski was restrained (okay he was going a little loopy but at no point did he seem to be a danger!) and that they locked the sick bay door says to me that there are serious trust issues going on onboard the ship. i still think it was an inside job rather than someone came along seperate to the crew and damaged it.

[Lost in VA]

I think most indicators point to Michael being Ben's "mole",
and he probably destroyed the radio under Ben's orders.

[justjoe]

I'm starting to get that feeling too VA. This fact may not shock us but to the general public it would be a huge twist because they are not obssesive about Lost like we are.

[Rain13]

What indicators do you have of this. Lost in VA? It's funny, everyone seems to be saying "Michael is the mole!" and yet no one seems to be supporting it with any facts or even a plausible situation where it could be the case. Like Bunny said, I think this would have had to be an inside job as there are some serious trust issues going on with the freighter-folk. I've said it many times and I'll say it again, I can't imagine the freighter-folk trusting a stranger like Michael enough to let him do damage and then to not even suspect him. Whoever is doing the sabotage must be someone who has been a plant for a long time, and this couldn't be Michael unless they're going to try to pull some time travel stuff on us (like Ben sent Michael at the incorrect bearing of 325 knowing that he would go back in time and thus be able to get onto the freighter team in the past and not be suspected) and that would just be stupid!

[Lost in VA]

If Michael and Walt had made it to safety when Ben told them the headings to
leave the Island, the Oceanic 6 wouldnt have been so famous, because Michael
would of taken all that glory by his return. I think Ben still had a deal with Michael that included being rescued by the freighter and sabotaging their radio.

[Rain13]

You're not answering my question. You said you had indicators that Michael was Ben's mole. Other than speculation, what indicators do you have? Also, remember that Michael, right before he was released, asked Ben "How do you know I won't go back home and tell everyone about this place?" and Ben told him that he knew he wouldn't because if he did than he would end up in jail. Michael murdered two people on the island, and if he ever told anyone that he was an Oceanic survivor he would be jailed. The implication was that Ben was able to release Michael because he was sure that Michael would never tell anybody out of interest for his son's future and his own wellbeing.

Again, 1. what indicators do you have that Michael is Ben's mole and 2. can you give me a plausible sequence of events, beginning with his departure from the island with Walt on the boat, that would result in his being the mole?

[Elmer]

I agree with Rain there i find it highly unlikely that Walt and Micheal would be given unrestricted access to areas of the ship. If they are on the ship they are probably locked away or kept under tight watch.

[justjoe]

Well we should find out soon because ********spoiler**********















Michael should be back on the show next week.

[Rain13]

Yeah I don't even know if I would call that a spoiler anymore since everyone's been posting it. All I'm asking for still is just for someone to give me a plausible situation where Michael is the mole. I do agree that it is strange that Michael is coming back right around the time when we should find out who the mole is, but I still can't imagine how he could get the crew to trust him enough to sabotage them and not be suspected!

[justjoe]

It has been out for a while but I don't want to ruin it for those who aren't in the know like us. ;)

[Angelibby]

I defiantly agree with you Rain, I've been trying to think, the only thing I could come up with is that maybe Michael is connected to the freighter people from before the crash? I don't remember anything in his past that would leave me to believe this, but then again, I don't remember what his job was or anything like that. Is there anything from before that might lead him to be connected with these people prior to leaving the island?

[Rain13]

No, it doesn't seem like he had any connection with people like that prior to coming to the island. You're right though, the only way that Michael could be trusted enough to sabotage the freighter and still be unsuspected is if he had been there all along. Like I said, I guess they could pull some time travel business and say that Ben sent Michael back in time ot infiltrate the freighter crew when they were first putting it together, but that would just seem silly to me.

[agmic]

I defiantly agree with you Rain, I've been trying to think, the only thing I could come up with is that maybe Michael is connected to the freighter people from before the crash? I don't remember anything in his past that would leave me to believe this, but then again, I don't remember what his job was or anything like that. Is there anything from before that might lead him to be connected with these people prior to leaving the island?

"I've been trying to think" just keep trying, you'll get it..:D:D

[Elmer]

No, it doesn't seem like he had any connection with people like that prior to coming to the island. You're right though, the only way that Michael could be trusted enough to sabotage the freighter and still be unsuspected is if he had been there all along. Like I said, I guess they could pull some time travel business and say that Ben sent Michael back in time ot infiltrate the freighter crew when they were first putting it together, but that would just seem silly to me.

So far the only time travel that has occurred has been non physical. So i doubt that Ben could have sent Michael back in a way that would fit into him being on the boat. That would mean that there were 2 physical Michaels existing at one time.

[agmic]

for all that's been said on here and others posts. I still am not buying in on this "time travel" theory.... somethings just telling me that we are missing something. That when it happens, all of us will be surprised.....

[islander]

I think most indicators point to Michael being Ben's "mole",
and he probably destroyed the radio under Ben's orders.

ok, but what does that accomplish? the crew can still use the sat phones. all they need is a straight shot from the phone to the satellite to communicate with another sat phone user, and we know these sat phones can only talk to each other per the last episode so the sat phone converations can be controlled to some extent.

it seems to me destroying the radio kept someone either w/o a sat phone or someone who didn't want to use their sat phone from calling the outside world.

[Elmer]

If i am not mistaken the it was mentioned that the sat phones could only call the other sat phones.

[Rain13]

Well I think the implication is that the only people who have SAT phones are the 4 crew members and Minkowski in the communications room. Minkowski then relayed all information ab out the mission, via more conventional means, back to wherever else in the world "the big boss" was. If they could have just contacted the outside world via SAT phone than they wouldn't have said that their communications with the outside world were severed after the comm. room was sabotaged.

[agmic]

but don't you think that If you were going to destroy the radio, you would do so, So no one could fix the thing......Syaid did a good job fixing it so Demond could call Penny....

[MARK CASPERSON 815]

I believe that the spy that ben has on the boat is Micheal that left the island at the end of season 2 cause ben said that if he left the island on the certain bearing he would find rescue and that bearing is the same bearing to find the boat micheal could be behind opening the door for desmond, syiad and Mike and it is possible that micheal coulda destroyed the communications equipment.

[stuartsjg]

On the topic of the radio room but slightly aside.

I'm an electrical engineer and am amazed at Sayid's ability to botch together something like a radio phone.

I have, and ive seen very expecrienced engineers and technicians spend hours trying to fix something, and thats with schematics, good tools and spare parts.

I know it would spoil the storey, but its impossible, just by looking to put together a bunch of identical, unmarked wires and get something to work in a mattery of minutes.

Fair enough, if its just some connectors that have been pulled out and circuity is not damaged - but that radio room may take 2 or 3 enegineers armed with tools and schematics twice as long as Sayid took.

Sayid would be better getting a job as a telecoms fixer than a hitman for Ben, he could charge £100's per hour to fix things nobody can!

[Snape]

I get so hot whenever Sayid fixes something. Everyone needs a man like that in their lives. :D