Ben;s man on the boat is....

[DriveShaft]

Charlie

I am calling it now

I know its crazy but if somehow it turns out to be right...I want to be the one that called it.

[heavensprincess]

Charlie

I am calling it now

I know its crazy but if somehow it turns out to be right...I want to be the one that called it.

I'm hoping you're right

[DriveShaft]

I'm hoping you're right

If I am, we shall have a Lost party in honor of the correctness :P

[McMason]

Charlie

I am calling it now

I know its crazy but if somehow it turns out to be right...I want to be the one that called it.

Maybe Locke from the future. "You might want to SIT DOWN for this"

[DriveShaft]

Maybe Locke from the future. "You might want to SIT DOWN for this"

"someone you never thought you would see again"

I'm gonna stand by Charlie
:p

[Lost Raven]

i'm gonna say its ben from the future.. just saying..

[csharp1990]

I hope this is right too, I'm on board for this idea, it could essentially be anyone.

[skatertsol]

I think at this point we are all going to be disappointed if it is Michael just b/c we have all been somewhat expecting it. I would love for it to be Charlie....the talk of him leaving the show and all of that just a well kept secret in part of a much bigger plan-so LOST of them!!

[McMason]

"someone you never thought you would see again"

I'm gonna stand by Charlie
:p

I know we saw Sawyer kill Lockes Dad, but that would be someone I thought I would never see again. Just throwing stuff out and seeing what sticks.

[DriveShaft]

i'm gonna say its ben from the future.. just saying..

Normally I would by into future things but the preview says it is someone we have seen before and do not expect to come back.

Micheal is too predictable

Charlie would be a huge twist

(Or Boone)

[csharp1990]

hahah boone, i really doubt that :)

the girls would like that though

[DriveShaft]

I hope this is right too, I'm on board for this idea, it could essentially be anyone.

I think anyone we thought was dead

Echo
Boone (Him more likley than Echo cause the actor that played Mr. Echo wanted to quit lost)

[heavensprincess]

Normally I would by into future things but the preview says it is someone we have seen before and do not expect to come back.

Micheal is too predictable

Charlie would be a huge twist

(Or Boone)

Don't change your mind now...It has to be Charlie

[DriveShaft]

I know we saw Sawyer kill Lockes Dad, but that would be someone I thought I would never see again. Just throwing stuff out and seeing what sticks.

I was thinking that too but Lockes dad is such ****ty character i dont think they would bring him back.

If it is not Micheal I think Charlie is the best bet. He is really the only one that did not get his ass completly kicked by the bitch that is the island.

Remember, it has to shock Locke. I would say Christian Shepard but that would make Locke like "WTF"

Charlie would make him have to sit down

Micheal has worked for the others before, it would not surprise anyone

[DriveShaft]

Don't change your mind now...It has to be Charlie

Oh

It is

Because when I declaire something on Lost, it comes true ; )

Boone wouldent work the more i think about it. He got his ass handed to him. He is like...super dead.

I cant wait to see Charlie in episode 7

[eh?1234]

what if it's ethan?

[skatertsol]

Normally I would by into future things but the preview says it is someone we have seen before and do not expect to come back.

Micheal is too predictable

Charlie would be a huge twist

(Or Boone)
I missed Serious Cat! Hey correct me if I'm wrong but in an interview w/ t.v. guide I thought Dominic M. WANTED to leave LOST for some reason....Just like Echo....That's the only reason I don't think it's him. But Drive, I'm totally on your side for this I like Charlie WAAAY more than Michael!!! (doesn't everybody!?!)

[DriveShaft]

what if it's ethan?

Maybe, the guy has filmed more episodes "dead" than he did when he was a living character.

Maybe it's Charlie AND Ethan and Charlie shoots him again

[DriveShaft]

I missed Serious Cat! Hey correct me if I'm wrong but in an interview w/ t.v. guide I thought Dominic M. WANTED to leave LOST for some reason....Just like Echo....That's the only reason I don't think it's him. But Drive, I'm totally on your side for this I like Charlie WAAAY more than Michael!!! (doesn't everybody!?!)

No i looked into it and saw interviews with him

Dominic was upset about being taken out of the script.

Dominic later used sports analogies to make it seem like he did not get "fired" but was not getting enough play time.

There was a HUGE backlash when Charlie was killed and viewership dropped.

It is likley that they would rewrite Charlie in.

It has happened on many other shows

(Even if they had Charlie as a character in a new episode acting like he never died I would let it slide. I would not ask about it, so just put him back on the show. I wont care, you dont have to explain how he is still alive just bring him back)

[csharp1990]

(Even if they had Charlie as a character in a new episode acting like he never died I would let it slide. I would not ask about it, so just put him back on the show. I wont care, you dont have to explain how he is still alive just bring him back)

amen to that brother

[eh?1234]

they've killed off so many characters who knows. I like the Charlie idea, but we've seen him before when Hurley is off the island. He even says "I'm dead and I'm here." I don't think that would be much of a suprise to anyone other than his friends on the island.

[skatertsol]

No i looked into it and saw interviews with him

Dominic was upset about being taken out of the script.

Dominic later used sports analogies to make it seem like he did not get "fired" but was not getting enough play time.

There was a HUGE backlash when Charlie was killed and viewership dropped.

It is likley that they would rewrite Charlie in.

It has happened on many other shows

(Even if they had Charlie as a character in a new episode acting like he never died I would let it slide. I would not ask about it, so just put him back on the show. I wont care, you dont have to explain how he is still alive just bring him back)
Ah see I must have been reading one of the sports analogies lol Do your research before you post skater!!! lol. Thanks for clearing that up for me; I really didn't understand WHY he'd leave anyway. Yeah I'd be all for the next episode they wake up on the island and Charlie's just chillin out-maybe at the barracks with Claire-he just went for a long swim and that's why he hasn't been in the last few episodes. And Hurley's thing at the mental institution? Oh c'mon now Hurleys crazy right? Charlie's been here all along!!

[ehodgson]

they've killed off so many characters who knows. I like the Charlie idea, but we've seen him before when Hurley is off the island. He even says "I'm dead and I'm here." I don't think that would be much of a suprise to anyone other than his friends on the island.

well u never know with this show he could have said that to keep it a secret that he is alive maybe he is trying to make him think hes crazy for some weird reason but like i said no one knows

[parapadme]

MY thoughts:

First, I said Sayid.

Then Michael.

Then Charlie.

Either one. Mostly, I say Michael. It fits easily, and yes it is predictable...

but do you really think Ben would just let michael leave the island?

Remember, Ben continually promised to let Juliet go home IF she did this and this and this....

[imascootinspook]

As much as I would love for Charlie to return...I am more surer ( ? is that even a word ? ) that it is Michael after watching the previews for next week. If you rewatch it, at the end after they say the " never thought" part, the image of the person that stood in front of Sayid ( I think ) from the back and related to the height, looked very much like Michael.

[eh?1234]

Imascoot...

what if it's a more grown up Walt?

[skatertsol]

MY thoughts:

First, I said Sayid.

Then Michael.

Then Charlie.

Either one. Mostly, I say Michael. It fits easily, and yes it is predictable...

but do you really think Ben would just let michael leave the island?

Remember, Ben continually promised to let Juliet go home IF she did this and this and this....
Sayid? Don't we see him in last week's episode and know that he's a survivor?

[imascootinspook]

Imascoot...

what if it's a more grown up Walt?

lol, that just crossed my mind Did u go back and look n see what I saw?

[Locke09]

I bet you it's Mikhail, we never did see his body wash on shore. I'm just throwing it out there. Charlie would be a great twist too though.

[DriveShaft]

Its the character blurred out i think

Im sick of pausing and looking for little details.

I have taken film editing classes, it is likley that scene is non related. But was a good shot of the back of someones head

[Rain13]

Despite the fact that I really don't want it to be cause I think it's cheesey, it is definately Michael.

[Kal-Bear43]

At this point in the show, nothing would surprise me. But it would be awesome if it was Charlie, I miss him = )

[az-phil]

Gotta be Michael or Sayid.

There has to be a good reason this person would work for Ben. If they brought Charlie or Boone back from the dead, why would they work for Ben.

Michael on the other hand will do anything to protect/save Walt. Ben could easily use this to make Michael work for him. Not to mention that we know Michael is not dead, and has been missing for quite a while.

I don't see why Sayid would help Ben, but there could be a back story they failed to show us yet. We also know Sayid helps Ben in the future. As hard as it is for me believe Sayid would work for Ben at this point in time, it would cause Locke to have to sit down to believe.

I'm siding toward Michael though, since it makes more sense that Ben's person has been on the boat quite a while and damaged the communication equipment. That would rule out Sayid.

[McMason]

So it was Future Sayid that opened the door on the freigther to let the present Sayid go to the comm. room and allow Des to call Penny? Just asking.

[LockeDown]

I also think Ben's guy on the boat is Sayid. He is working for Ben in the future..

[justjoe]

I wish I could get a screen cap of next weeks preview. You can clearly see the outline of Michaels head in the shot. I believe Sayid runs into him on the boat.

[wetdogsmell]

OHMG. . . how can you think it's Charlie? Or, even WANT it to be Charlie?!? Charlie was annoying!!

Personally, I was pleased as punch when they killed Charlie off! It was long overdue and his character really bugged me, especially in Season 3.

[Elmer]

How can it be Sayid? He just got to the boat. The limited time travel that has been introduced on the show is not physical. Therefor Sayid could not be in 2 places at once. It will probably be Michael but I dont like that outcome. I still don't get how he could be on the boat without restrictions. The crew on the boat obviously know alot about the passangers of 815. It will be very interesting how they explain it, if it does turn out to be Michael.

[PolarBearOnRollerBlades]

i think it is michael and it is the only thing predictable i have ever seen on lost. i dont think they are going to throw us a curve ball on this one. they should not have said what they said in next weeks preview they should have just left it alone or done something to throw us off and make us think it was someone else. but i would bet money that its michael and im not even a betting man... then again something does seem a little fishy about the obviousness of this one...

[BrothaDezzy]

Ok I was watching the trailer. And it is def Michael. When they show Sayid and Dez and the old dude looking back all surprised you see a dark picture of a head taking up the camera. Its a shaggy afro looking hair. Who do you think has a shaggy afro. Michael its so obvious watch the trailer again. Youll see it.

[the chimp]

This is a stretch, but I believe Sayid is working for Ben in order to protect (or find) the Oceanic 6 - in a twisted way. I think Ben wants to destroy the Oceanic 6 so they do not expose the island. Sayid is his hired hand to "help" him do that, but Sayid has his own agenda. The assasin he killed was obviouly working for Penny's dad. They want Ben, but Ben wants the 6. There has to be reason why Jack can not go back to the island, whether it was a deal he made with Ben to leave or in Penny's father will not permit him. But it could be a classic case of trying to keep the island a secret. Some might say how are they protected if they are in the spotlight? That is exactly how they are being protected. We learned last nifght that Ben does not want the island exposed - so it would be to great a risk to have anything happen to them with all of the media watching them - but somehow Ben has a plan (that includes Sayid helping) that will get the 6 either back to the island or gone. Sayid is playing BEn so that he can help the 6. As far as the man on the boat - Michael. Michael is the only one vulnerable enough to let Ben be able to manipulate him. The only thing I am havuing trouble piecing together is where the Hurley fits into this whole thing and also where the hell did Goodwins wife come from? Where are they hiding?

[justjoe]

Exactly what I've been saying Brutha. Thank you for confirming it.

[Snape]

The Captain can't possibly be Charlie. It's impossible. Reason: not enough time between events.

In Lost time, from the day Charlie "died" (I won't speculate here if he did or not) to the day Sayid and Desmond arrive on the freighter is probably about 1 week [or less].

How could Charlie get to the freighter that fast (#1) and usurp power quickly enough to be Captain (#2) when he isn't even an authoratative person and um, is probably quite injured from the events in the underground station (#3)?

It's not Charlie. It's impossible.

[Elmer]

At this point I am not denying it is most likely Michael on the boat as Ben's spy. I just don't get how the writers are going to make that believable. I understand why Michael would agree to it but not how the boat people would just accept him.

[the chimp]

It could easily be Michael, but why has Michael not recived the same amount of attention that the Oceanic 6 seem to be getting? It doesn't seem that he let anyone know. MAybe Ben sent him to Penny's dad letting him know that he knows where the island is. But I agree, Michael seems to be too spineless and cowardly for anyone to "fear" him and be able to pull a stunt like this off.

[justjoe]

Michael doesn't have to be posing as a crew member. He could be part of the research team or because he knows where the island is he could have been hired to get the freighter there.

[Elmer]

Has Michael been gone off the island long enough for that to be beleivable? Didn't they say the freighter had been off the coast for a month? or something like that.

[ai2301]

Here's my prediction for Ben's man on the boat....

Walt.

Yep, Walt.


With all this talk about Ben's "MAN" on the boat we're forgetting a couple things- Walt has aged enough to be considered a young man. He is someone that would be shocking (you'd better sit down) and is someone who Locke would trust, therefore if Ben's could prove that Walt was on Ben's side and the Island's side, it would make sense than Locke could now trust Ben for the benefit of the island.

Also, with his "special abilities" it's possible that Walt can communicate with Ben, or travel to the island at will.

Now I haven't seen the commercial that shows the "outline of Michael's head", but perhaps it's really Walt- and we find that he looks a lot like his dad now that he's older. I know Michael will be back this season, IMO it's in flashbacks that will explain what happened after they left the island. Perhaps Walt turns on dear old dad...
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[Snape]

Has Michael been gone off the island long enough for that to be beleivable? Didn't they say the freighter had been off the coast for a month? or something like that.

That's a good point. I posted above how it would be practically impossible for Charlie to assume leadership of a freighter in only a week (since his accident) - but even a month seems far-fetched which is more or less how long Michael's been off the island [probably a little more but no longer than 45 days].

But if it's not Charlie or Michael (and it still probably IS Michael, but let's assume it's not), then who would it be? Someone from Locke's past that would surprise him. It could be anyone from his past that he would be amazed to see...and I think the only real candidate we have is his father. Or maybe that kid police officer he shot (or didn't shoot) that infiltrated his drug-dealing plantation. Or maybe even his mother, but she doesn't fit the leadership type.

[bunnydixon]

i had a suggestion that walt might be bens man on the boat without even realising he is!

as for michael - remember he managed to spin a yarn to the losties and fool them for a while, so perhaps he is doing the same on the freighter.

[Snape]

Here's my prediction for Ben's man on the boat....

Walt.

Yep, Walt.


With all this talk about Ben's "MAN" on the boat we're forgetting a couple things- Walt has aged enough to be considered a young man. He is someone that would be shocking (you'd better sit down) and is someone who Locke would trust, therefore if Ben's could prove that Walt was on Ben's side and the Island's side, it would make sense than Locke could now trust Ben for the benefit of the island.

Also, with his "special abilities" it's possible that Walt can communicate with Ben, or travel to the island at will.

Now I haven't seen the commercial that shows the "outline of Michael's head", but perhaps it's really Walt- and we find that he looks a lot like his dad now that he's older. I know Michael will be back this season, IMO it's in flashbacks that will explain what happened after they left the island. Perhaps Walt turns on dear old dad...

Walt has NOT aged enough to be a young man. He was 10 at the time of 815's crash - it's been 3 months, he's still 10.

[BrothaDezzy]

Walt has NOT aged enough to be a young man. He was 10 at the time of 815's crash - it's been 3 months, he's still 10.

Hes a pretty tall and has a deeper voice for a 10 yr old. You seen how he apeard to John. Walt could have aged more and grown a shaggy afro just like old dad who knows.

[trikister40]

First is was Michael, now Charlie. My money is on Walt. Who else would Locke be shocked about? Locke and Walt formed a very close bond, and it is Walt who has been telling Locke what to do.

Maybe the man on the boat is Jacob, or maybe that is what Ben will tell him. I can see it now "That is why Jacob isn't talking to you, he is on the boat. He is contacting me to give you information, work with me."

[ai2301]

Walt has NOT aged enough to be a young man. He was 10 at the time of 815's crash - it's been 3 months, he's still 10.

The actor who plays walt is 15 years old- he's not going to continue to play a 10 year old who looks 10 years old. 15 years old is considered a young man IMO. Not only did we see the change when he appeared to Locke but Locke mentioned that he appeared older therefore this quick aging is going to be written into the story.

Whether it was the intention of the writers to incorporate his change in age, or it's simply something they had to deal with- it's something that will not go unnoticed if Walt if to remain a character- and given his importance to Locke I believe he will.
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[suzisunshine1]

I think that we are all being led to believe it will be Michael or Walt. But that seems too easy. When was the last time they writers gave us something this easy? I know the actor who plays Michael is supposed to be coming back, but still. I doubt it's Charlie either-that would have leaked out on a spoiler site already. All that being said, I don't have any other guesses of who it might be.

[justjoe]

I've said before that to us Michael coming back might not be that big of a deal because we are on these boards and privy to some inside info (sort of). To the public at large this would be huge!

[Elmer]

I've said before that to us Michael coming back might not be that big of a deal because we are on these boards and privy to some inside info (sort of). To the public at large this would be huge!

I agree with Joe on about that. I still am a little apprehensive about how the will explain it and make it beleivable.

[ai2301]

I doubt it's Charlie either...


I assumed that was just a joke anyway. The timing doesn't allow this. The freighter was there before Charlie drown in the Looking Glass.

Even if he didn't drown, while in the Looking Glass he warned Desmond about the boat- not something he would do if he were working with Ben at that time. Ben had been in the Losties "custody" while that happened and up until last night's episode so there was no time for Charlie to become connected with Ben and for them to collude in any way.
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[Vincent_the_Dog]

http://www.tv.com/lost/ji-yeon/episode/1151565/summary.html?tag=ep_list;title;7

TV.com lists Michael as a regular cast member starting with the next episode. This would imply that he's not just showing up in a flash-forward or flashback. He's here to stay. Where? On the freighter. Ben told him he could leave the island, I don't think he said he could go home. The real question is: if Michael is on the freighter, where is Walt?

[Steeevil]

The man on the boat that Ben knows... is Ben. It's his doppleganger, the one from the photograph. There is two of everyone on the island.

[agmic]

Charlie

I am calling it now

I know its crazy but if somehow it turns out to be right...I want to be the one that called it.

hasn't this allready been "called" by a few people.....

[addictedtopainmeds]

The man on the boat that Ben knows... is Ben. It's his doppleganger, the one from the photograph. There is two of everyone on the island.

what proof do you have?

[dixiegirl]

The preview says we are going to see someone we never thought we'd see again. We've seen Walt and we know were are going to see Michael again. I think it's Jack dad. His body wasn't in the coffin and in Jack's flash forward he talks as if his Dad is alive and working in the hospital again. Something to think about...

[heavensprincess]

The preview says we are going to see someone we never thought we'd see again. We've seen Walt and we know were are going to see Michael again. I think it's Jack dad. His body wasn't in the coffin and in Jack's flash forward he talks as if his Dad is alive and working in the hospital again. Something to think about...

We've seen him too though. Jack saw him and Hurley saw him in the cabin.

[pinkrain85]

yes I think everybody is hoping for CHarlie to be the spy because he and Claire had a good thing going on. But if anything I think it is Mr.Eko.Correct me if I am wrong. My memory is not to well.LOL. But i think the spy on the boat is Mr. Eko. After the hatch caved in on itself we did not see what happened to him. Perhaps like Desmond he started to have "side-effects". Just a thought. But I do believe it is Mr.Eko!!!!!!!

[Snape]

yes I think everybody is hoping for CHarlie to be the spy because he and Claire had a good thing going on. But if anything I think it is Mr.Eko.Correct me if I am wrong. My memory is not to well.LOL. But i think the spy on the boat is Mr. Eko. After the hatch caved in on itself we did not see what happened to him. Perhaps like Desmond he started to have "side-effects". Just a thought. But I do believe it is Mr.Eko!!!!!!!

Eko died at the hands of the Monster...we were shown his body...

Unless you believe that the man on the boat is the Monster appearing as Eko.

[IrishDancinQueen]

Not to beat a dead horse, but I too think it's probably Michael or maybe Walt. I know that begs the question, how could they have been off the island long enough to get themselves believably on that freighter. We know that something funky happens with time when people go to or leave this island. Just a theory, but perhaps Ben, knowing about this funkiness, sent Michael and Walt on that specific bearing so that they would wind up in the past, giving either of them more time to get on that boat as a member of the crew or the research team. I know it's a bit shaky as far as theories go, especially because it involves physical time travel rather than just the roving consciousness we've seen up until this point. Any thoughts?

[justjoe]

People think logically. Next weeks cast includes Michael and doesn't include anybody else that we knew before, dead or alive. How he got there we will soon find out but I believe Ben "hired" him as one of his minions. Just like he "hired" Sayid. This one's a slam dunk.

[ehodgson]

[QUOTE=az-phil;22860]Gotta be Michael or Sayid.

There has to be a good reason this person would work for Ben. If they brought Charlie or Boone back from the dead, why would they work for Ben.

well the question is how? well jacob y? because they needed someone to go undercover for them well sounds like a fair deal to me bring them back to life if they work for ben ya that sounds good!

[pinkrain85]

Yes I think everyone is hoping it is Charlie because he and Claire had a good thing going on. But I actually think that it is Mr. Eko. Correct me if I am my memory does not serve me well (LOL), but after the hatch caved in and the sky went purple, what happened to Mr. Eko. there was no follow up on what happened to him. Was there? I think most people have forgotten about him because he did not have a BIG role in the 2nd or 3rd season. Just a thought!:o

[justjoe]

Irish dancing queen I have been saying this for a week now. My theory is there are multiple ways to get off the island depending on what bearing you head.

[justjoe]

Yes I think everyone is hoping it is Charlie because he and Claire had a good thing going on. But I actually think that it is Mr. Eko. Correct me if I am my memory does not serve me well (LOL), but after the hatch caved in and the sky went purple, what happened to Mr. Eko. there was no follow up on what happened to him. Was there? I think most people have forgotten about him because he did not have a BIG role in the 2nd or 3rd season. Just a thought!

Eko was obliterated by the smoke monster and we saw it happen.

[dixiegirl]

Definitely not Eko. We do know there are multiple ways to leave...they used to have a submarine until Locke blew it up.

[justjoe]

I'm saying multiple "wormholes" not modes of transport.

[Vincent_the_Dog]

Not to beat a dead horse, but I too think it's probably Michael or maybe Walt. I know that begs the question, how could they have been off the island long enough to get themselves believably on that freighter. We know that something funky happens with time when people go to or leave this island. Just a theory, but perhaps Ben, knowing about this funkiness, sent Michael and Walt on that specific bearing so that they would wind up in the past, giving either of them more time to get on that boat as a member of the crew or the research team. I know it's a bit shaky as far as theories go, especially because it involves physical time travel rather than just the roving consciousness we've seen up until this point. Any thoughts?

Perhaps Ben sent him on that bearing knowing that the freighter would "rescue" him.

[My3kGT]

I'll go with the obvious, Michael, since they keep putting Harold Perrineau's name in the cast credits every week but we have yet to see him.

[Yummy Yoghurt]

I'll go with the obvious, Michael, since they keep putting Harold Perrineau's name in the cast credits every week but we have yet to see him.

Yep, I think it's Michael too.

[lostfan]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this but why would Hurley say "you're not real, you're dead" in his flash forward to Charlie in the season opener. And then Charlie say "I am dead, but I'm here too"(something like that). I think it's either Michael or Walt, Michael's character is supposed to be reintroduced this season and what better time than now.

[Lostfan1]

I do belieive Michale or Walt is one on the boat. This is not somthing Im glad about it is just the most logical answer.
That is why it is so predictable:p
Eaither it is Michale or Walt...
or.. They are going to make everyone's jaw drop with a huge twist!:eek:(sounds like LOST to me)
But for now I'm sticking to Michale.:mad:

If it IS Charlie i will bow down to the producers!:D

[MellyBelly]

For my first post i would like to say this.
Charlie has a script in his inbox at the office in Hawaii.
this is literal as in real world haha my mom lives in Hawaii and has been to the office where all the lost stuff goes on like hiring producers and so on. So Charlie will be back we just dont know if he will be back again Dead talking to Hurley again or any others of the Six or if he is the person on the boat.
Think about how most characters die they dont just leave it up to your imagination did we see Charlie floating there and losing all his breath and just dying no.

[az-phil]

It's Peggy Bundy!!!

That would shock Locke. His old girlfriend, Helen (Katey Segal).

http://z.about.com/d/lost/1/0/D/4/-/-/24-Helen-and-Locke-Attend-A.jpg