has anyone mentioned this yet?

[addictedtopainmeds]

could the charlie we saw in the season opener be a charlie from the past? maybe patchys mission was to save charlie in the looking glass. "i'm dead, but i am also here"??????

[Snape]

Bodies don't time-travel, only consciousnesses do.

[suzisunshine1]

I doubt it. Because Hurley was in the institution after the crash=remember Jack visited him there, too.

But, the writers are so good they could through something in there to make Charlie have time traveled too. I'd be disappointed though if a lot of people started doing that.

[addictedtopainmeds]

Bodies don't time-travel, only consciousnesses do.

yeah, but wasn't he in the hatch or very near it when it imploded?

[Snape]

yeah, but wasn't he in the hatch or very near it when it imploded?

Does it matter? You're saying that a Charlie from the past appeared to Hurley. Fine. But his body wouldn't have traveled, only his consciousness, so are you putting forth that Charlie-from-the-past's consciousness warped into Charlie-in-the-future's dead body and reanimated it and then found Hurley 1000's of miles away in the US?

I'm sorry, no.

[addictedtopainmeds]

Does it matter? You're saying that a Charlie from the past appeared to Hurley. Fine. But his body wouldn't have traveled, only his consciousness, so are you putting forth that Charlie-from-the-past's consciousness warped into Charlie-in-the-future's dead body and reanimated it and then found Hurley 1000's of miles away in the US?

I'm sorry, no.

why not? can you make sense of anything else on this show? all i know is that charlie is not dead....the details are not quite clear yet

[Snape]

why not? can you make sense of anything else on this show? all i know is that charlie is not dead....the details are not quite clear yet

I love how the response to any refutation of a theory is "does anything make sense on this show"? And why do you think Charlie isn't dead?

Do you not believe Desmond's visions?

[agmic]

could the charlie we saw in the season opener be a charlie from the past? maybe patchys mission was to save charlie in the looking glass. "i'm dead, but i am also here"??????

save him with a grenade ,,,,,,,yea, ummm I'm here to save you ,,,, boom

[addictedtopainmeds]

I love how the response to any refutation of a theory is "does anything make sense on this show"? And why do you think Charlie isn't dead?

Do you not believe Desmond's visions?

i believe charlie isn't dead because there is no body. plain and simple. remember when he was hanging from that tree? he must have been without air for a little bit. my guess is that patchy went down to the looking glass to save charlie. after all, if he didn't blow out that window, charlie would have died for sure...


and about desmond's visions, he only knows what he 'sees'. how could he know what happens afterwards? did he actually see charlie's body lifeless in a coffin or something like that?

[heavensprincess]

i believe charlie isn't dead because there is no body. plain and simple. remember when he was hanging from that tree? he must have been without air for a little bit. my guess is that patchy went down to the looking glass to save charlie. after all, if he didn't blow out that window, charlie would have died for sure...

I'm with you I want Charlie to be alive but the reason Charlie got stuck in that room was because Patchy had the grenade and he locked himself in to save Sayid..I don't think Patchy was there to help

[addictedtopainmeds]

save him with a grenade ,,,,,,,yea, ummm I'm here to save you ,,,, boom

what easier way is there to blow out a window underwater?

[addictedtopainmeds]

I'm with you I want Charlie to be alive but the reason Charlie got stuck in that room was because Patchy had the grenade and he locked himself in to save Sayid..I don't think Patchy was there to help

well, it's not like patchy could just say 'hey, i'm here to help you' regardless, i'm just brainstorming here. charlie survived somehow...

[Snape]

We have no reason to think he survived - he even said himself "Yes, I'm <u>dead</u>, but I'm still here."

[addictedtopainmeds]

We have no reason to think he survived - he even said himself "Yes, I'm <u>dead</u>, but I'm still here."

sorry, but from that statement it could go either way

[Snape]

Says he himself is dead - I'll take him at his word. And besides, come ON, how would he survive that underwater environment given how much we were shown of his last moments?

But I'm not here to speculate if he's alive or dead - only to say that he is definitely 100% not the captain of that boat, and 99.9% sure he isn't Ben's "man" on the boat.

[agmic]

what easier way is there to blow out a window underwater?

true, but could Charlie fit throug that window ???

[addictedtopainmeds]

Says he himself is dead - I'll take him at his word. And besides, come ON, how would he survive that underwater environment given how much we were shown of his last moments?

But I'm not here to speculate if he's alive or dead - only to say that he is definitely 100% not the captain of that boat, and 99.9% sure he isn't Ben's "man" on the boat.

of course he said he's dead, hurley thinks he is, but regardless of any of this, charlie somehow survived, and even if he didn't, he will be back

[Elmer]

what easier way is there to blow out a window underwater?

Had he not blown up the window with the grenade charlie would not have needed saving.

[Suecq]

I'm with you I want Charlie to be alive but the reason Charlie got stuck in that room was because Patchy had the grenade and he locked himself in to save Sayid..I don't think Patchy was there to help

I agree. Patchy wasn't there to help Charlie. Although.... It would be a nice twist.:D

[bunnydixon]

maybe charlie is wedged in the window space!!! :eek:

[Snape]

of course he said he's dead, hurley thinks he is, but regardless of any of this, charlie somehow survived, and even if he didn't, he will be back

I don't doubt that Charlie will be back. But it won't be next episode.

[BrothaDezzy]

could the charlie we saw in the season opener be a charlie from the past? maybe patchys mission was to save charlie in the looking glass. "i'm dead, but i am also here"??????

Wow you are realy hung up on this Charlie being alive still thing. Yes it has been mentioned before and you have been the one making countless threads about it. Lay off the roxys Charlie is dead, he said it himself.

[addictedtopainmeds]

Wow you are realy hung up on this Charlie being alive still thing. Yes it has been mentioned before and you have been the one making countless threads about it. Lay off the roxys Charlie is dead, he said it himself.

am i not allowed to have my opinions? is this a 'dictatorship' ?

[BrothaDezzy]

am i not allowed to have my opinions? is this a 'dictatorship' ?

Ya good response you know what im talking about. Thats all you ever say then you act like you dont know its been mentioned before when your the one that brings it up. Look I know your opinion its prety obvious no body no death. Ill show you the body if you go back to season 3 last episode you clearly see Charlies body floating around dead. There it is.

[addictedtopainmeds]

Ya good response you know what im talking about. Thats all you ever say then you act like you dont know its been mentioned before when your the one that brings it up. Look I know your opinion its prety obvious no body no death. Ill show you the body if you go back to season 3 last episode you clearly see Charlies body floating around dead. There it is.

cut me some slack, i just joined.is it a requirement to read every single post before i post?

[BrothaDezzy]

cut me some slack, i just joined.is it a requirement to read every single post before i post?

Are you even payin attention to what im sayin? Look im sorry if what im sayin is too much for you I truly am. I didnt say you had to read other posts. Look at what you have posted. Think before you ask a rhetorical question.

[addictedtopainmeds]

Are you even payin attention to what im sayin? Look im sorry if what im sayin is too much for you I truly am. I didnt say you had to read other posts. Look at what you have posted. Think before you ask a rhetorical question.

right! thanks for the heads up!

[BrothaDezzy]

right! thanks for the heads up!

Your very welcome. Im so glad I could help.

[addictedtopainmeds]

Your very welcome. Im so glad I could help.

that 'so' you threw in there gave away your sarcasm. nice!

[BrothaDezzy]

that 'so' you threw in there gave away your sarcasm. nice!

Well that was the idea good eye glad you caught that.

[addictedtopainmeds]

Well that was the idea good eye glad you caught that.

i knew it wouldn't be too long before joining this forum that i would come across the likes of you. i must admit though, i made it about a week before it happened. rather impressive!

[ehodgson]

Omg!!!! Shut Up No One Wants Too Read Ur Stupid Arguing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[addictedtopainmeds]

Omg!!!! Shut Up No One Wants Too Read Ur Stupid Arguing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



agreed! thanks for helping me snap out of it!