Check out this crazy hint about the coffin

[KarmaKate]

According to ABC's showing of through the looking glass this past wed. the person who died may have been from New York. Michael is from new york(http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Michael).
something along the lines of"the article is unclear, a popular theory is it's about a MAN from New York who dies in Los Angeles"
as for the short coffin b/c of a child theory, walt is also from New York. is anyone else from NY?
(sorry if this is old or obvious info)
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[navyguy]

I agree with you my friend!!!! Michael (or walt) is most definately in the coffin. As for Michael "WOOOOO SON". Thank you for that lostpedia reference. We know from opening credits for season 4 that Michael WILL return as a regular. I noticed in the trivia referring to the Archangel Michael leading the battle, and our Michael Dawson is returning to the beloved island (i don't think with Walt though, i could be wrong). I believe Michael's role in this season will be reason enough for Jack to lament his death.

[Bumchoda]

I agree that it is Michael in the coffin. Hes from NY, the funeral seemed to be in a black neighbourhood (jack parks beside black dudes infront of barber shop, funeral director is also black) and nobody came because Michael had nobody except for Walt (he also betrayed everyone on the island). His wife died, and i think Michael changed his name when he came back to civilzation so nobody knew who he was. I found this from the Fuselage website.

Here's an enhanced image of the newspaper obituary.
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"The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue.

Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's loft.

Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room.

According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham (sic) is survived by one teenaged son.

Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening."

My theory is that Walt was angry with his father about something which caused Michaels death and explains why Walt wasnt at the funeral service.

[KarmaKate]

thanks for the pic of the article. I've been trying to catch that. so does that mean Michael is one of the six? boo. I never really liked him. he had a funky attitude.

[BriGuy0419]

Here's an enhanced image of the newspaper obituary.
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"The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue.

So I don't get why it would be Michael in the coffin... if the article says "The body of John Lantham..."

[KarmaKate]

is that bens real name? or that could be Micheal new name. ben's from oregon. who's john lantham?

[Bumchoda]

I think Michael changed his name so that people wouldnt know he was a survivor. Michael was selfish (for him and his son) and it was probably so that he could live out a normal life with his son. And by the time this flash forward took place, Walt would be a teenager which corresponds to what the article said.

[Kage]

Micheal could be living under an alias because of what he did to Libby and Ana Lucia? But I still think it may be a character not yet introduced maybe a rescuer who has guilt over disobeying orders and rescuing who he could.Just a theory there are 4 new characters being introduced this season that we know of maybe more to come.

[hallsballs]

personally, i think walt died after season 2. if you think about how walt "appears in places he's not supposed to be" throughout season 2, he is always dripping wet and his voice is all funky. BUT, when he appears to locke at the pit, he's totally dry, audible, noticeably older, and he's giving advice to locke, which only happens from somebody who has died on the island. assuming this "enhanced picture of the article" isn't doctored up, i think that the person in the coffin is a character that hasn't been introduced yet.

[jacksnurse]

omg...thanks bumchada...we were going back to that sceen today and zoomed with scope 2 and could only make out...man found in downtown la....and that first name started with j and last ended with m....and words loft...loud..4am...it could be michael but i also agree could be character not intro'ed yet...

[bhargrove]

Good points but don't you think it may be Sawyer. When the show has a flashback about Sawyer when he is conning the family with the kid he ends up giving not only the husbands money back but he also gave them the $160,000.00 that he borrowed from the gangster. I am sure the gangster did not forget about that. Sawyer may have changed his identity to elude the gangster. Kate says why would I go to his funeral because Sawyer either broke her heart or conned her.

[bunnydixon]

but if sawyer was dead would cassidy not go? i know she has been conned by him and but she also gave birth to his child (she claims) and i think she still loves him.

[hunter8768]

Michael isn't one of the "Oceanic 6". He left the island in S2 so wouldn't he already be in the US.

I'm thinking that the "Oceanic 6" became celebrities when they were rescued. With their new status as celebs, they became highly visible, thus Micheal was able to see them and know who came back. I'm thinking that he somehow contacted them and told them about changing his name and tried to be friends again. That didn't happen because they hate him for what he did.

I don't think Micheal is one of the "Oceanic 6" as a few other people have written. I think he was already back.

[hunter8768]

I also think that Micheal will be showing up in the flash forwards of the Oceanic 6 instead of showing up at the island. Since he is already back from the island, he will be able to get in touch with the them and we will see him doing so in their flash forwards.

[Dzbabykel]

Just because Michael left the island on a raft or boat (I can't remember exactly who he ended up getting off) but that doesn't mean he made it back to the US. Remember Desmond said this place is like a "bloody snowglobe" so maybe he had trouble getting off as well. Plus I don't think he would return to the US without Walt.

I personally think we'll find Michael on the Freigter with those new people coming to the island, maybe that's the reason they know so much about the Losties and were able to lie to them? Remember Naomi knew who Desmond was and about some of the others I believe? I could be wrong.

[lostforawhile]

I was looking at the book that looks like a journal on the side of the coffin and was thinking maybe its not a journal, maybe it is a drawing book (Michael), not quite sold on the little coffin yet, may just be on a weird angle.

[hunter8768]

Yeah, I would tent to agree that the sensable think to assume is that Micheal was picked up by the freightor. THen once on there, he either gave them tons on info about the Lostees or he was interrogated. But if memory serves me correctly, and it often doesn't, didn't Micheal and Walt leave before Desmond came back?

They didn't know Desmond when they got on the boat and left did they. And besides, Micheal didn't have that picture of Des & Penny either if he did tell Naomi's people about them.

Remember the picture that Naomi had of Des & Penny together?

[aZiXx]

Desmond came back on the sailboat... then Sayid, Jin and Sun left in it while Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sawyer and Michael went by land to the trap. Then Michael and Walt leave and the hatch failsafe is activated by Desmond.

Michael/Walt could have been picked up by freighter, but there is something else involved since Naomi has the picture of Des/Pen. Since Penny didn't seem to know anything about a boat, I would have to say it's Penny's father who may have ties with Dharma or Hanso...

[1hourisntlongenough]

Good points but don't you think it may be Sawyer. When the show has a flashback about Sawyer when he is conning the family with the kid he ends up giving not only the husbands money back but he also gave them the $160,000.00 that he borrowed from the gangster. I am sure the gangster did not forget about that. Sawyer may have changed his identity to elude the gangster. Kate says why would I go to his funeral because Sawyer either broke her heart or conned her.

I'm not convinced that it's Sawyer in the coffin, but wanted to point out that "Sawyer" wasn't his given name......his real name is James. So, it could be him even w/out changing his name.

[Lostopoly]

According to ABC's showing of through the looking glass this past wed. the person who died may have been from New York. Michael is from new york(http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Michael).
something along the lines of"the article is unclear, a popular theory is it's about a MAN from New York who dies in Los Angeles"
as for the short coffin b/c of a child theory, walt is also from New York. is anyone else from NY?
(sorry if this is old or obvious info)
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Harold Perrineau says in his interviews that his wife pointed this out to him and that there was a teenage son. That spells Walt.

[hallsballs]

well in regard to naomi having the picture of desmond and penny...i think it's interesting that it's that particular photo. if you think about how desmond got that photo...it was some random guy on the street taking pictures who printed out desmonds copy right there. how did naomi get a copy of that photo? seems kinda wierd.

also, i don't think michael is on the freighter. in the end of season 2 ben gives michael a specific compass bearing to follow, which i think probably led him to the submarine. assuming the "snowglobe" theory is right, and considering that the freighter couldn't find the island without using the satellite phone's signal, i think that the freighter had no chance of stumbling upon michael and walt. i think that the "snowglobe" theory has something to do with elctromagnetism, which can cause compasses to not give correct readings. sayid said something about locke's hatch having an electromagnetic conductor inside it. maybe there's another one somewhere on the island that in a way kind of "cloaks" it from people by messing up their compasses.

[respek]

I read in article in peoples magazine, where they did a interview with jack, and he said that they dont even know who is in the casket. When they did the seen he had to pretend that he knew and had feelings for this person.

[hollie425]

I think Michael changed his name so that people wouldnt know he was a survivor. Michael was selfish (for him and his son) and it was probably so that he could live out a normal life with his son. And by the time this flash forward took place, Walt would be a teenager which corresponds to what the article said.


i think michael changed his name too, cus he probabaly doesnt want anyone to know wat he did to get off the island. exspecially if the "oceanic 6" are famous now..
but i dont think its michael in the coffin.
its either ben or john locke. idk

[drew102e]

jack said he was neither friend or family, but was deeply moved that he had died, dont think its michael or walt because he would consider them a friend

wouldnt he?

[KarmaKate]

I'm not going to say anyones opinion is wrong, b/c there is no real way for me to know if I'm right. however I still think it is micheal. what if he's the reason the freighter went to the island. and maybe he's not apart of the oceanic 6 b/c he arrived earlier. and i think it is possible walt is already dead. but didn't the others say they took him to protect him? then again who knows with those guys. what I wonder is if they said that in the episode to really hint at something, or if it was just to get us sturred up.

[Dzbabykel]

I personally don't think Michael holds as much significance as some of the other characters do for Jack to be so distraught over. I mean we may find out more about Michael later but from what we know now, I seriously doubt he's the one that would be in the casket. I'm going with either Ben or Locke. Haha but that could change by this Thursday :)

[jacksnurse]

i think that Michael is in the coffin.....i think that Jack is not upset because of who it is but because he realizes that Ben was correct in stating that "every living person would die if they left the island" and he knows that he made a huge mistake that he may not be able to mend

[hallsballs]

no, ben says that if jack "made that call" to the freighter, then every single person on the island would die. that doesn't mean that whoever leaves the island dies. i also think that ben didn't really mean that...he just knew that jack's biggest fear is to let somebody die. so by saying that, ben thought it would stop jack from making the call.

i think that the person in the coffin is one of the oceanic 6, but i have no clue who it is. i think that the reason that jack was about to kill himself was because the person in the coffin had allegedly killed themselves. we know that jack and hurley both have trouble adjusting to life after the island, and they both think that the island is calling them back. i think that the person in the coffin killed themselves because he couldn't deal with whatever separated him/her from the island. there's also some secret that the oceanic 6 are keeping because jack asked hurley in the flash-forward at the mental institution if he was going to "tell". maybe that also had something to do with the death/suicide of the person in the coffin. but as to the identity, it's still too early to tell.

[meesterperfect]

I think the strongest evidence supporting the possibility that it is Micheal is that Kate said " why would I go" (to the funeral). Obviously she is not the biggest Micheal fan, he put her through hell..

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I think many of you are right about how there is no real way to know about who is in the coffin. Plus I know Mikey isn't too significant right now, but with there being flash forwards and flashbacks to dead and alive people, somthing very well may happen with walt and mike in the next few seasons, remember there are at least 6. Anything can happen, just no one knows what, not even the writers.

[cliff]

I think it may be Michael, for the reasons stated, but I'm not sure. I don't understand Jack's reaction, but a lot of other pieces fit (NY, teenage son, black neighborhood, no friends or family). That does make you wonder where Walt is.

I don't think the person in the coffin is one of the Oceanic 6. The Oceanic 6 are famous. If one of them died, there would have been a reporter or photographer at the funeral. Instead, there was no one there. That suggests it is someone else, like Michael, who got off the island earlier. But it could be Ben, Juliet, or someone else who was not on the Oceanic flight but was on the island. The neighborhood the funeral home was in doesn't seem to make much sense if it is one of them.

[coldandevell]

Whoever it turns out to be it is someone jack did not care for and I really really think Jack only came there to see if Kate or anyone else connected to the island would show up because by the time that flash forward happened he was obsessed with getting BACK to the island. I don't think whoever the person is in the coffin was a friend or family to Jack at all He was there to find a connection to the island.

On another note we cannot forget that Walt had some sort of psychic power that was never really explained and the others said he was special.

[Dzbabykel]

I think whoever was in the coffin was someone hugely significant to Jack whether good or bad. I mean you have to remember...this death shook him up so badly that he tried to committ suicide and also go to the funeral where he seemed upset, even going up to the coffin and putting his hand on it. I don't think he'd do that for someone he necessarily "hated"....thats why I think it was someone he had a lot of respect for. I lean towards Locke but I know that seems to be the obvious theory....should be interesting.

[mrstooge8it2]

There is a screen shot of the coffin showing a book besides it - is the cover on the book significant?

[Dzbabykel]

I'd have to see the screen shot but I think they place things strategically throughout the show for importance so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if that book was important. Plus we've seen throughout the show that books are significant. Very interesting, I hadn't noticed that before.

[HardrocksII]

I think whoever was in the coffin was someone hugely significant to Jack whether good or bad. I mean you have to remember...this death shook him up so badly that he tried to committ suicide and also go to the funeral where he seemed upset, even going up to the coffin and putting his hand on it. I don't think he'd do that for someone he necessarily "hated"....thats why I think it was someone he had a lot of respect for. I lean towards Locke but I know that seems to be the obvious theory....should be interesting.

like that idea DZ, someone whom he had high regards for to pay respects to, Julet maybe ? Kate certainly didnt care to go...as she said: why would I ? interesting, even Locke could be in there....fits the hate part. lol, more things to solve ;)

[Workman]

Well, the noticeably older part is because this show is going on 4yrs old now, and I'm sure puberty has taken hold of Walt since season 1...

[Dzbabykel]

Thanks, yah I just think its someone that really impacted his life whether it be good or bad.....thats why I just don't think its Michael, but then again there are still 3 seasons to finish out so who knows what will happen :)

[LostFreak21]

Whoever it turns out to be it is someone jack did not care for and I really really think Jack only came there to see if Kate or anyone else connected to the island would show up because by the time that flash forward happened he was obsessed with getting BACK to the island. I don't think whoever the person is in the coffin was a friend or family to Jack at all He was there to find a connection to the island.

On another note we cannot forget that Walt had some sort of psychic power that was never really explained and the others said he was special.

I think that you are right on target. He wanted to see if they would show up.

[Workman]

no, ben says that if jack "made that call" to the freighter, then every single person on the island would die. that doesn't mean that whoever leaves the island dies. i also think that ben didn't really mean that...he just knew that jack's biggest fear is to let somebody die. so by saying that, ben thought it would stop jack from making the call.

i think that the person in the coffin is one of the oceanic 6, but i have no clue who it is. i think that the reason that jack was about to kill himself was because the person in the coffin had allegedly killed themselves. we know that jack and hurley both have trouble adjusting to life after the island, and they both think that the island is calling them back. i think that the person in the coffin killed themselves because he couldn't deal with whatever separated him/her from the island. there's also some secret that the oceanic 6 are keeping because jack asked hurley in the flash-forward at the mental institution if he was going to "tell". maybe that also had something to do with the death/suicide of the person in the coffin. but as to the identity, it's still too early to tell.



I think if it were one of the Oceanic 6, there would be something in the headline about that. Something like "One of the Oceanic 6 dies in home" or something like that...not just a generic story.

[Dzbabykel]

Well, the noticeably older part is because this show is going on 4yrs old now, and I'm sure puberty has taken hold of Walt since season 1...

i thought that too but I think they're using the fact he's gotten older to make some sort of significance....Locke has said it many times that he saw an "older" and "taller" Walt and even Sawyer keeps throwing mention of it in there calling him "taller ghost walt" or whatever. They wouldn't have put that in the script if it didn't have some sort of significance. I think the fact is older in the show is of HUGE importance personally. If they wanted to keep him the same they could have made him look younger through make up and shorter hair if they really wanted.

[mrstooge8it2]

I'd have to see the screen shot but I think they place things strategically throughout the show for importance so it wouldn't surprise me one bit if that book was important. Plus we've seen throughout the show that books are significant. Very interesting, I hadn't noticed that before.


this was all I could find

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[Jasonater]

It's a good possibility Michael is in the coffin. I believe a group whose interest is finding the island, covered up the crash, with a staged crash. I'll call them "the Group". I think that "The group” doesn't want anyone to find the survivors or the plane because they want to find the island themselves. I think that “The groups” crew was sent to the island to make sure no survivors were alive. I think that the “Six” get off the island via the helicopter and that there is a big "To Do" about the oceanic six that somehow survived the crash. The "six" cover up the other survivors because they don't want people looking for them and discovering the island. In the flash forwards "The groups" mission is to make sure that no one else goes looking for more anymore survivors. Michael is not one of the "six". He got off the Island via Ben’s boat and is going under another name. The bottom line is that “the group” killed Michael and covered it up as a suicide, one less person that could come out about the island and the survivors. Walt does not go to the funeral because doesn’t want “The Group” finding him.