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CinDog5
02-03-2008, 05:43 PM
I've read a lot of theories about cloning (particularly that all of the people on flight 815 were cloned and then put on another plane that was intentionally crashed into the ocean). However, one big misconception about cloning is, for example, that a "clone" can be made of you and will appear just like you immediately. This is not the way cloning works. A clone has to be born and then raised however many years to look like you. In other words, if I were to be cloned, it would be implanted into someone else, they would give birth to her and then it would have to grow for 22 years to look like I do now (and even then we wouldn't be exactly alike...based on scars I have from childhood, choice of getting a tattoo, etc.). It would NOT just "POOF!" be exactly like me, therefore having two-22 year old versions of me at the same time. If in fact all passengers on flight 815 were cloned, it would have taken anywhere between the age of the children on the flight to the age of the oldest passenger (Rose? Bernard? Locke?) to "age" the clones so as to fool the rest of the world and especially the family and loved ones of those passengers. There may be talk about time travel on the island, but c'mon, this seems a little far fetched to clone people and then age them just right only to kill them all off in a fake plane crash. Any thoughts?
Dzbabykel
02-03-2008, 05:49 PM
I don't think cloning is necessarily where the writers are going with this, but we've already seen in the orientation video that time travel due to the casimir effect the island has IS a possibility. You know how in back to the future he is able to go back but almost runs into himself? Well he's not a clone of himself, but they are the same and he is warned that if they interact then it could throw off the whole balance of everything. This a stretch but its not to say that maybe there is some time travel station near the swan station that would allow something like that to happen? A theory like that is a HUGE stretch but I've been reading some pretty thorugh theories and when they talk about it, it kind of makes sense. Haha I won't even begin to try and explain it because it confuses me too much :p
UnknownPoster
02-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Originally I was on board with the cloning concept, but you are right in your assertions.
I have been fighting against the time travel theory but I guess I don't know how else to explain the two # 15 rabbits in the video on the DVD.
I still say the virus prevents aging and renders people infertile but it doesn't explain the two rabbits unless one is a phony #15. The director seems so excited with the shot "GOT IT!" he exclaims when they shoot the #15 in the guy's arms
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aZiXx
02-03-2008, 06:36 PM
The cloning you are referring to would be the cloning that the world has been shown to exist, ie "Dolly". There could be cloning as twinning, where a copy is made instantly. You are thinking too much in the confines of the known reality of things. Many things are not known that may exist. The island is full of non-conforming things. :)
Time travel is definitely going to be a major part of the show. Cloning... meh I'm not sure.
"I still say the virus prevents aging and renders people infertile"
It could prevent aging, but not make people infertile. 3 reasons.
1. Juliette says sperm count increases by 5x to Sun in the med station.
2. Jin was infertile on normal land, but on the island he got Sun pregnant.
3. Before Dharma, there are the indigenous people of the island that Dharma called hostiles. They had to reproduce somehow... don't ya think to survive for however long they have been there. Previous to Dharma, there was no transportation to and from the island that we know of.
Case closed.
**EDIT**
Aging prevention is most likely out for newcomers. Ben grew up. Maybe you need to be born there, like Richard possibly was, before Dharma created a plague to wipe out the hostiles :)
UnknownPoster
02-03-2008, 06:59 PM
Reopen the case. The original people would heve reproduced before the virus was introduced.
I said infertile which was a bad choice or words. I should have said give birth which Sun has not yet done.
Next I continue to doubt that a bunch of white people are the oringal inhabitants of an insland in the S Pacific.
At one point Ben says he was close to being Banished. Surely he wouldn't have said this if no one else had ever been banished, would he?
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