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john-locke (harry)
02-03-2008, 06:29 PM
think about it?

1hourisntlongenough
02-03-2008, 06:32 PM
not quite sure he IS Jacob, but definitely is very important or "special" to him/it.

UnknownPoster
02-03-2008, 06:40 PM
Why would Ben have to talk about the metaphorical box that brings what you want? And why would Ben tell Locke to kill his dad? I'm not following...

bunnydixon
02-03-2008, 06:41 PM
what makes you think that he is?

john-locke (harry)
02-03-2008, 06:53 PM
i think he is jacob but he just doesnt know it yet, think about it. (its hard to explain)

bunnydixon
02-03-2008, 06:57 PM
if i think about this show too much - my brain will implode!

i was wondering of jacob was the mist? if he was manifesting in some sort of way and thats why some see it as black mist and others as a white light?

TuesdaySmith
02-03-2008, 07:00 PM
i think he is jacob but he just doesnt know it yet, think about it. (its hard to explain)

If Locke is Jacob, then who does Locke hear say "help me"?

john-locke (harry)
02-03-2008, 07:10 PM
it was in his mind if you remember ben diddnt hear jacob say it because he was askin john what jacob said!! watch that episode again pause it when it goes on to jacob it is john locke !!

bunnydixon
02-03-2008, 07:14 PM
its defo not as they had not cast the part of jacob at that point and had their prop master sit in as him apparently - but then again, they could be trying to lead us of the trail with that wee bitty of info.....

lost-mad
02-03-2008, 07:52 PM
u could be on to something there u kno cos if ben can hear jacob then how comes he didnt hear him say to john "help me" could be right mate!!! reply to me sweet

john-locke (harry)
02-03-2008, 07:55 PM
its just what i think but every one has got there own opinion

bunnydixon
02-03-2008, 08:00 PM
are you talking about the man behind the curtain ep or the new ep?

john-locke (harry)
02-03-2008, 08:04 PM
man behind the curtain in the new ep you see jacks dad now that did confuse me !

bunnydixon
02-03-2008, 08:04 PM
i think i have confused myself lol!

my brain has gone into lost overdrive!

digiboy13
02-03-2008, 08:10 PM
Jacob is Jack's dad... if u turn up the brightness in the first episode of season 4, and slow it down-- you clearly see the white shoes that Jack's dad wears in one of the mini webisodes that they released...... spooky!!

I think that Jacob can manifest himself into anything-- ie. Locke, Walt, Locke's dad, the black smoke, even the polar bear!!!!

bunnydixon
02-03-2008, 08:11 PM
i agree with the manifesting thing totally

digiboy13
02-03-2008, 08:14 PM
i was so happy when i noticed Jack's dad btw lol!! U think the other guy in the shack was the French dude Mikael? he seems to be able to heal mega quickly by the way...

aZiXx
02-03-2008, 08:32 PM
i was so happy when i noticed Jack's dad btw lol!! U think the other guy in the shack was the French dude Mikael? he seems to be able to heal mega quickly by the way...

The eye looks like there is long hair on the persons head, not short or lack of. But Mikhail does seem to heal fast, the shield, the harpoon... and Mikhail is Russian.

digiboy13
02-03-2008, 08:59 PM
I think it's mikael wearing his wetsuit??

bhargrove
02-04-2008, 06:53 AM
Could it be that Jacob and John are one in the same as God and Jesus Christ. Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Jacob=Father, John=Son, and the Smoke=Holy Spirit. All one in the same. Ben who was once the right hand man of Jacob/God will become Lucifere.

aZiXx
02-04-2008, 04:41 PM
Thats an interesting comparison :) but I don't think Locke is one and the same as Jacob. The security system seems connected to the island/Jacob but is separate in my view.

georgebushisaretard
02-05-2008, 10:58 PM
It definitely looks like Locke's profile when we saw 'Jacob' (Season 3's; tMBtC). As for the previous religious theory...CHRISTIAN SHEPPARD! Mmm, or is that too obvious?

bodomchild0926
02-06-2008, 03:05 AM
Going back to the time travel theory, maybe Jacob is Locke but from the future... maybe when the button didn't get pushed it caused some kind of time rift which brought the plane to the island at another time...Maybe this is why Ben kinda got excited and told the others that Locke was something special and they got disappointed when he wouldn't kill his father(they knew "Jacob" was supposed to) and this is why Ben says "he's not who we thought he is"...I could be way of with this but its just an idea

hollie425
02-06-2008, 08:32 PM
it was in his mind if you remember ben diddnt hear jacob say it because he was askin john what jacob said!! watch that episode again pause it when it goes on to jacob it is john locke !!

well you have kinda of a point. its kinda weird, but you make an excellent point... lol

senorcool
02-06-2008, 08:58 PM
As for the appearance of Jacob, I'm pretty sure his form has nothing to do with who he is. He is God of the island and whatever realm the island is apart of. He can do whatever he wants and be whoever he wants to be.

Ezekiel 25:17
02-06-2008, 09:18 PM
Man, I can't believe I have to say this over and over again. Yes, John Locke is capable of hearing Jacob, and the cause/reason for that may be later revealed, however, John Locke is not Jacob, John Locke is John Locke, didn't anyone see his past, the others basically gave us his entire life story, I'm pretty sure Ben would know if John Locke was the king of the island, just like he knew Jack was a surgeon. Jacob is a completely different character, whom we will soon get to know very well.