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lockeintomyeyes
04-10-2008, 12:27 PM
It seems strange that Danielle for 16 years stayed away from the others then all of a sudden she is talking to Ben? Is the Island that big to not have come in contact with them. Then there's the whole situation of her child. Does anyone think maybe she just like left her somewhere and the others found her and that is why Ben claimed her?
mahalo_dude
04-10-2008, 02:40 PM
I think that if we ever get to see the much-rumored Danielle flashback, all these questions will be answered.
In sixteen years, she has never had allies vs the Others (as far as we know). With Sayid, Locke, Jack, etc. on the island, she finally has the courage to emerge from the jungle, so to speak.
JJ McAbraham
04-10-2008, 03:39 PM
I think that if we ever get to see the much-rumored Danielle flashback, all these questions will be answered.
In sixteen years, she has never had allies vs the Others (as far as we know). With Sayid, Locke, Jack, etc. on the island, she finally has the courage to emerge from the jungle, so to speak.
My thoughts exactly, Mahalo. In the epsiode where Sayid, Locke and Kate go to The Flame, Danielle said she has avoided situations like that for 16 years. I think she would have been killed or hurt if she approached anyone. Also, she has been a little crazy for some time, and Im sure it is similar to a snowball effect of craziness.
lockeintomyeyes
04-10-2008, 05:44 PM
Well then what do you think about Alex? Maybe they didn't kidnap her maybe Danielle was out of it for so long that she left her. Maybe she knew who the others were and thought they could do a bettter job than her. I am sure she watched them.
bunnydixon
04-10-2008, 06:19 PM
she has been trying to survive alone for 16 years and if that means keeping out of their way then so be it. as she keeps herself to herself, they were probably happy to leave her alone and also the fact that she is a blood relative to alex might be one reason ben was happy to keep her alive, should there be any medical problems with Alex etc....obviously now, she has become more of a threat to him than ever before.
JJ McAbraham
04-10-2008, 09:13 PM
Perhaps it was a similar situation to Claire's. The others or the Dharma people may have druged her and taken the baby. Or they found her and baby later on after the birth and druged her then.
Anton
04-12-2008, 11:37 PM
Daniel is crazy, she shot her entire crew cause she thought that they were sick with something right? so I like the idea where she was out of it. then when she got her wits about her, for all she knew, SHE killed her kid, but she assumes it was the others, if she had talked to ben, alex would have known it I think, and thus, would know daniel.
Nintendo_Warrior
04-13-2008, 01:40 AM
Like we first learned from Mr. Eko, "They will not be found if they don't want to." Of course Danielle has been looking for the others, remember when she first caught Sayid, she thought he was an other, and asked him "Where is Alex?" over and over. And don't forget that she IS the reason she's talking to ben right now. Back in season 2 she caught him in a net (No pun intended, Alex aignt his daughter!) and that led to all that's happening now. I really REALLY hope we get a Danielle flashback.
Anton
04-13-2008, 03:27 PM
Like we first learned from Mr. Eko, "They will not be found if they don't want to." Of course Danielle has been looking for the others, remember when she first caught Sayid, she thought he was an other, and asked him "Where is Alex?" over and over. And don't forget that she IS the reason she's talking to ben right now. Back in season 2 she caught him in a net (No pun intended, Alex aignt his daughter!) and that led to all that's happening now. I really REALLY hope we get a Danielle flashback.
you know I am glad that you reminded me of that fact, but I think that is all the MORE reason for her to be the bad guy, how is it that ben... BEN of ALL people gets caught in a net? I think he and Danielle planned the hole thing now.
lockeintomyeyes
04-13-2008, 10:54 PM
The Danielle thing is strange. She wasn't in the same hospital as Hurley, was she? She seems like she is always looking like -wwwwhat?
JJ McAbraham
04-13-2008, 11:37 PM
you know I am glad that you reminded me of that fact, but I think that is all the MORE reason for her to be the bad guy, how is it that ben... BEN of ALL people gets caught in a net? I think he and Danielle planned the hole thing now.
Ive been thinking about that as well... but I think Ben knew about Danielle's trap and made the plan on his own. Danielle did not seem to care when he was about to be killed by John in the fourth season. She also told Jack not to trust him and not believe a word he said.
Who better to truly infiltrate the survivors than the mastermind himself. He thought he had a rock-solid back story with Henry Gail (or Gale) but it turned out to be full of holes. I would be very surprised if Danielle is working for Ben.
Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
04-14-2008, 12:01 AM
It seems strange that Danielle for 16 years stayed away from the others then all of a sudden she is talking to Ben? Is the Island that big to not have come in contact with them. Then there's the whole situation of her child. Does anyone think maybe she just like left her somewhere and the others found her and that is why Ben claimed her?
Danielle is not crazy, she did not kill the other people she was with who had the sickness, and she did not abandon her baby daughter, nor did she turn Alex over to Ben, thinking they'd give her a better life? (Did you all forget the slam in the face she gave him with her elbow?) The only common thread Danielle and Ben have is that they both love Alex.
....what was the question again?...
JJ McAbraham
04-14-2008, 12:13 AM
Danielle is not crazy, she did not kill the other people she was with who had the sickness, and she did not abandon her baby daughter, nor did she turn Alex over to Ben, thinking they'd give her a better life? (Did you all forget the slam in the face she gave him with her elbow?) The only common thread Danielle and Ben have is that they both love Alex.
....what was the question again?...
Then who killed her team? And how did they get the child? You cant just say "this didnt happen" and not back it up. Lets hear your rationale, Kid.
Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
04-14-2008, 01:41 AM
Then who killed her team? And how did they get the child? You cant just say "this didnt happen" and not back it up. Lets hear your rationale, Kid.
Well, let's see... ok, we're not sure what "the sickness" was except that it has something to do with "the incident" that Dharma film lab coat guy spoke of... but she's been wanting Alex back for 16 yrs and claimed the Others took her baby. The Others have a habit of kidnapping children. I am thinking they wanted her baby (born on the island) for the same scientific reasons they are interested in ALL the babies/children. Maybe her team died directly or indirectly at the hands of The Others - they were the only others there...
By the way, yes, I CAN just say "this didn't happen" because Jacob gave me special powers...:p
JJ McAbraham
04-14-2008, 01:43 AM
Proof, kid.
Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
04-14-2008, 12:08 PM
Proof, kid.
Boy, you're really picking on me now, aren't you... Ok, I concede that sometimes I should say "I think" or "Possibly" - so please excuse me when I tend to speak in absolutes "because I said so" - I'm a product of my profession. (so let's hope you never become one of my patients...) :D
justjoe
04-14-2008, 12:28 PM
Danielle admitted to killing her sick coworkers.
Anton
04-14-2008, 06:27 PM
Danielle admitted to killing her sick coworkers.
You all have a good point, and I think that there is a good long story that has yet to be discovered, let's look at this, one of you braught up that ben got an elbow in the face yeah? it's very hard to tell what is going on, Danyel is ceaping seacrets that make her look guillty, but every one dose that, we should wait and see, this could go either way.
LostFreak21
04-14-2008, 06:43 PM
Who's to say that Ben hasn't brainwashed her into thinking she killed them.
Anton
04-14-2008, 06:46 PM
Who's to say that Ben hasn't brainwashed her into thinking she killed them.
That's a stretch, but not impossible.
Nintendo_Warrior
04-14-2008, 10:01 PM
Everyone calm down with this, no-one has actual proof to back up their theries unless we get footage of it happening or not. But do you all seriously think someone would lie and say they killed people??? That'd be a stupid thing to do, unless you pride yourself on killing, or some other really good reason.
Danielle, in my opinion, was/is a good person. She did'nt just MAKE UP the sickness, because somehow world of it got to Kelvin (even though he was lying about it, they both somehow heard of it). The "it killed them all" from her message ment the SICKNESS was "it".
And it's been brought up that Ben shouldn't have been caught in the net, or Danielle should have known about the shooting. People do make mistakes guys! How many times during Danielle's 16 years on the island has she actually been under fire before? NONE. She had no experience with that, it never happened to her before, so she didn't know what to do. And Ben's a coward, what with the sending Ethan and Goodwin to do his dirty work while he stayed in his nice house staring at Jueilet. It wasn't untill he needed to find Locke that he wen't over their by himself. That was probily the first time where Ben was in the part of the island alone, thus the first time he was ever in danger of anykind of trap. THAT suggests that he had no idea how to avoid traps, for he was never a part of the "Other" group that actually went outside their "Sonic-Weapon fence". That was the job of Tom, Pickett, Aldo, Alex, and other others that actually do the fighting, not the mental genius.
I guess the answer to the orignal question is later left for later or never.
Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
04-14-2008, 10:36 PM
wow, did she really? And I thought I knew everything!
Sorry about that.
JJ McAbraham
04-14-2008, 11:40 PM
Nintendo... thank you thank you. Finally, we can put this to rest. The story is in desperate need of more information, but until then, the facts are very straight forward. I appreciate your solid reasoning.
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