View Full Version : What did Kate do for Sawyer?
XmasDVD
05-02-2008, 04:06 AM
Jack was drinking and all ipset and wanted to know who she was talking to on the phone and where she was all day the next day - she said she had promised to do something for Sawyer. Wonder what?
mattt
05-02-2008, 04:07 AM
Somthing for his daughter maybe???
XmasDVD
05-02-2008, 04:08 AM
Somthing for his daughter maybe???
...hmm could be. I don't remember his daughter though.
1hourisntlongenough
05-02-2008, 04:09 AM
Jack was drinking and all ipset and wanted to know who she was talking to on the phone and where she was all day the next day - she said she had promised to do something for Sawyer. Wonder what?
I'm thinking that it had to do with his daughter Clementine. Maybe when she was about to leave she made a promise to look in on her, or give her money....look after her in some way.
sj256
05-02-2008, 04:10 AM
I'm guessing that she dresses up in a "charlie suit" to haunt Hurley. It's Sawyers way of getting back at Hugo for kicking his butt at all those games.
Ok..Ok… seriously now… did she say “I love you” at the end of the phone conversation?
LostFreak21
05-02-2008, 04:10 AM
I think that it is about his daughter. What was the name of the girl she was talking to on the phone, the girl she met at the park?
ortrules
05-02-2008, 04:11 AM
Yes, my initial thought was that Kate was doing something for his daughter (he had with Cassidy)
That would also be something he doesn't want Jack to know about.
XmasDVD
05-02-2008, 04:11 AM
I'm thinking that it had to do with his daughter Clementine. Maybe when she was about to leave she made a promise to look in on her, or give her money....look after her in some way.
..all of that scamming people out of money in the past - maybe he had money hidden away for her in case anything happened.
Notice that Jack said that Sawyer *CHOSE* to stay on the island.
BomberDawg95
05-02-2008, 04:13 AM
I'm guessing it may have something to do with giving more money to his daughter. Perhaps giving a portion of her winnings from the O6 lawsuit?
stargazer
05-02-2008, 04:14 AM
I thought that Sawyer had set up something for his daughter, like a trust fund or something? I would have to go back and check season one or two, but it seems like there was money put aside for her, possibly from one of his scams.
ortrules
05-02-2008, 04:15 AM
Notice that Jack said that Sawyer *CHOSE* to stay on the island.
Yep, really the only significant part of the episode. We have confirmation that more 815ers are alive and living on the island.
1hourisntlongenough
05-02-2008, 04:17 AM
..all of that scamming people out of money in the past - maybe he had money hidden away for her in case anything happened.
Notice that Jack said that Sawyer *CHOSE* to stay on the island.
yea, I think he did actually. Wasn't he left with some odd amount from when he got out of jail or something and he had it set up for Clementine?
XmasDVD
05-02-2008, 04:19 AM
yea, I think he did actually. Wasn't he left with some odd amount from when he got out of jail or something and he had it set up for Clementine?
..I am blanking the the specifics..someone said they were gonna look back and S1 and S2 and see...
BomberDawg95
05-02-2008, 04:32 AM
..I am blanking the the specifics..someone said they were gonna look back and S1 and S2 and see...
He set up a trust fund in her name with the money he made from conning the fellow inmate who embezzled $10 million from the US gov't and turning the money over to the US again. He got a part of it and gave it all to her.
mattt
05-02-2008, 04:54 AM
Another quick theory....as far as i remember (up to this point) Kate doesnt know much about Sawyer and doesnt know that he has a kid. She does know about the man that conned his parents (lockes old man) and he killed him on the island. The reason people call him Sawyer. Maybe her arrangments have somthing to do with that.
JezzyTheJezebel
05-02-2008, 05:17 AM
Notice that Jack said that Sawyer *CHOSE* to stay on the island.
TQ is gonna be so happy lol....at least we now have confirmation that Sawyer is not dead and not in the coffin :D
wvugurl
05-02-2008, 05:18 AM
i think it has something to do with money..but if he set up a trust fund in his daughters name, then kate would not need to get involved with that...my intital thought that i posted somewhere else..wasnt there alot of money he scammed from that one woman in s2??? im thinking he has alot stashed somewhere and wants kate to get it..now im not so sure about giving it to his daughter as that would mean that kate would have to let out that she spent more than just a day or so (til he died what did jack say about the 2 that died a couple days?)..im wondering if kate is suppose to get it and live off it for her and aaron
mahalo_dude
05-02-2008, 05:25 AM
Sheesh...and here I am thinking it was as simple as getting his mail and watering his lawn!:D
1hourisntlongenough
05-02-2008, 05:26 AM
Sheesh...and here I am thinking it was as simple as getting his mail and watering his lawn!:D
hahaha:D:D
wvugurl
05-02-2008, 05:57 AM
well ya know kate said just trust me..maybe thats all it is..it is that simple...
i will go with that theory-she is only checking the mail and watering the lawn!
jackchick
05-02-2008, 07:30 AM
The timing of the thing is off. First, if Sawyer asked her to do him a favor once she got back it would be something done around trial or pre-trial or while Jack was still in a huff. And was she talking to Sawyer on the phone? What was he doing, calling from the island?? She got the call, then did Sawyer a favor. She accepted Jack's proposal and I think it's sincere. She asked him to trust her and he can't/won't. She wouldn't have waited until that moment to do Sawyer's favor from earlier. And I remember Sawyer gave all the $ from the prison scam to Clementine. Jack's cryptic, you're not even related makes me think he knows he is...I loved this episode!
My3kGT
05-02-2008, 07:47 AM
So do you then believe that Kate was talking to Sawyer on the phone? So now there is communication from the island to the mainland? Or did Sawyer leave the island too but for some reason chose not to return with the rest of them?
The time gap here also gets to me. Aaron is about three months old on the island, but looks more like a three-year old on the mainland, maybe older. Curious that Sawyer would (or could) call up after three years. I guess that's why we watch the show.
lenk@
05-02-2008, 11:50 AM
..all of that scamming people out of money in the past - maybe he had money hidden away for her in case anything happened.
Notice that Jack said that Sawyer *CHOSE* to stay on the island.
that keyt and soera will have daughter...
Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
05-02-2008, 01:02 PM
Yes, my initial thought was that Kate was doing something for his daughter (he had with Cassidy)
That would also be something he doesn't want Jack to know about.
and Kate did have an episode devoted in part to her "relationship" with Cassidy, both playing a con game, remember...
If it has something to do with money, didn't Sawyer already make arrangements when he got out of prison to pass along his money to Clementine? I heard him say that.
Anyway, how come Kate wouldn't want Jack to know? Saywer's not a threat to their relationship.
Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
05-02-2008, 01:05 PM
Sheesh...and here I am thinking it was as simple as getting his mail and watering his lawn!:D
lolololololololol that's so funny!
1hourisntlongenough
05-02-2008, 01:10 PM
and Kate did have an episode devoted in part to her "relationship" with Cassidy, both playing a con game, remember...
If it has something to do with money, didn't Sawyer already make arrangements when he got out of prison to pass along his money to Clementine? I heard him say that.
Anyway, how come Kate wouldn't want Jack to know? Saywer's not a threat to their relationship.
I think she was tight lipped about whatever she was doing for "him" (Sawyer) because she knew that it would upset Jack. She knows that the whole "Sawyer situation" is a sore spot with him and is jealous that she ever had/has feelings for him. I just think she knew he'd become defensive/guarded and upset if he knew that she was "doing things" for him off the island.....like Jack reads it as her not letting go of him.
ai2301
05-02-2008, 05:12 PM
I think she was tight lipped about whatever she was doing for "him" (Sawyer) because she knew that it would upset Jack. She knows that the whole "Sawyer situation" is a sore spot with him and is jealous that she ever had/has feelings for him. I just think she knew he'd become defensive/guarded and upset if he knew that she was "doing things" for him off the island.....like Jack reads it as her not letting go of him.
But if it's indeed got something to do with the money he left for his daughter, why not let Jack know? That's no big deal IMO. It would be odd though. The account was to be set up in his daughter's name and I'd assume then that Cassidy would have been made aware of it already.
Also, linky for more info on the account Sawyer wanted for his daughter.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Munson
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cheapshot11b
05-02-2008, 05:15 PM
I think that it is about his daughter. What was the name of the girl she was talking to on the phone, the girl she met at the park?
sounded like Noreen.
Archangel-Player
05-02-2008, 06:01 PM
I think the sports page Jack was reading was just something he keept and always reminds him self about his father. Something along thoese lines.
As far as to why Arron is much olde rthan he was on the island. It's because the Flash Fwds take place about one- two yrs after the island.
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I think the woman on the phone was Cassidy Phillips (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Cassidy_Phillips) the mother of Clementine. We all know that Cassidy helped Kate escape once.
Cassidy first helped Kate by going to Diane's house disguised as a Bible (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Bible) saleswoman who could easily be mistaken for Kate, so that they could have an idea of how heavily guarded Diane's house was. After being taken in for questioning and eventually released, Cassidy and Kate decided to take a different approach. While in the diner that Diane worked at, Cassidy spilled some food on Diane, forcing her to go to the bathroom where Kate was waiting to talk to her. Afterwards, Cassidy confided her story about Sawyer (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Sawyer) to Kate and the fact that she became pregnant by him while they were together. However, she never told Kate his name, and the two of them went their separate ways.<SMALL>("Left Behind (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Left_Behind)")</SMALL>
What better way to repay the favor by helping an old friend by pointing her to her daughter's trust fun. Atleast her daughter could have a happey life with this money. I think the favour was to check on Clementine for Sawyer.
AshIsLostNLovinIt
05-02-2008, 06:05 PM
She teleported back to the Island for a quickie. GO SAWYER!;)
thelawgiver
05-02-2008, 07:00 PM
TQ is gonna be so happy lol....at least we now have confirmation that Sawyer is not dead and not in the coffin :D
I think Sawyer's "choice" is an ambiguous one. He may not have chosen to return publicly as an O6, but slipped back un-noticed, like Michael, Walt or Ben. So, was Kate actually talking to Sawyer? Whoever it was seemed to know Jack also. So don't pull Sawyer out of that coffin just yet. Something to ponder.
JezzyTheJezebel
05-03-2008, 07:39 PM
I think Sawyer's "choice" is an ambiguous one. He may not have chosen to return publicly as an O6, but slipped back un-noticed, like Michael, Walt or Ben. So, was Kate actually talking to Sawyer? Whoever it was seemed to know Jack also. So don't pull Sawyer out of that coffin just yet. Something to ponder.
OHHH that is definitely something to ponder. Dang you're good :D
FredEx919
05-03-2008, 08:08 PM
Well since Sawyer has this new attitude it seems, Maybe he decides he needs to leave the island after all, and as the O6 are about to leave the island, they realize there is not enough room for an extra person (Sawyer) or for whatever reason he can not go and so he makes kate promise she will either come back for him, or send help?
- Now going with this theory, since it seems Ben is able to come and go from the island, and locate the survivors that leave the island, maybe kate was talking with him on the phone and arranging to either do something in exchange for sawyers exit off the island, or to go back to get sawyer???
mahalo_dude
05-03-2008, 08:09 PM
If Sawyer were in the coffin, I would think that Kate would want to attend the funeral (unless a rift comes between them at some point). She obviously did not want to go.
Turnip Queen
05-03-2008, 11:30 PM
The only obvious thing is something maybe she had to tell his daughter from him. Kate better go back to that island and hook up with him instead of Jack!
Turnip Queen
05-03-2008, 11:33 PM
TQ is gonna be so happy lol....at least we now have confirmation that Sawyer is not dead and not in the coffin :D
YES! I'm so relieved! I know I can't be 100% sure but it seems certain enough for me! I never want Sawyer or Ben to die, that would be the worst for me!
GodlessM
05-04-2008, 04:00 AM
I think everyone's initial thought was that it had something to do
with Clementine. Hell its highly possible that Kate was talknig to
Cassidy on the phone.
The Shrike
05-04-2008, 07:42 AM
Hmm.......I think it has something to do with Sawyer's con-man related past, like a job he never finished, etc.
Lostfan1
05-06-2008, 12:09 AM
I think Kate is LIEING to Jack when she says she is doing somthing for Sawyer.
Whatever she is doing, she had to lie about.
It might be somthing about that creepy guy that came to see Hurly.
Keep in mind....Just a theory.
wvugurl
05-06-2008, 04:50 AM
i still think if it had something to do with his daughter it would be very hard to keep it hush hush that he was in fact alive on the island and if he were one of the 2 that died shortly after the crash-what all information could you get and pass on to her in that short of time???..i think his daughter would be too easy...but it could be true..but it would be hard to communicate something to his daughter and not let on he is alive....and she was with him well what 3mos now...the trust fund was set up and she would more than likely know about it or will find out about it once she turns whatever age was set on it..so no need to go and talk to her about that...i dont know...it could be kate being a sneaky fox and really up to something else
boutte
05-06-2008, 05:33 AM
well ya know kate said just trust me..maybe thats all it is..it is that simple...
i will go with that theory-she is only checking the mail and watering the lawn!
Then why be so secretive?
BrockLanders
05-06-2008, 06:48 AM
Personally i believe there are a few things we learn from the phone calls and i do blieve kate is doing something for sawyer. My 1st thoughts deal with arron ie sawyer is some how responsible for claires death thus kate has to rase arron and sawyer wants to know whats up. Also wants to know what knowledge is around and if people know he is alive and what he has done. Though the part about you could come over for an hour kinda cuts off kate directly talking to sawyer because jack states that sawyer stayed on the island. Therefore i belive Kate was talking to Ben my 2nd realization, yes it deals with sawyer but she is working for ben doing something possibly lying to whom ever is on the phone and she has become another ben assassin? just some thoughts.
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