Claire is dead

[Puga]

I think she dies in the explosion and that is why Miles was looking at her like that, because he knows the truth. That is also why he let her walk away in the middle of the night.

[XmasDVD]

ooh that would be freaky. That means that Sawyer got shot too and died.
Except Frank saw them both...

[stargazer]

I think she dies in the explosion and that is why Miles was looking at her like that, because he knows the truth. That is also why he let her walk away in the middle of the night.

Maybe he has premonitions, and I still think he's a worm for letting her walk off like that.

[mattt]

I think he was looking at Aarron, and maybe he knew somthing about his special whatever that kid has going on. Plus i think Claire is still alive and still supposeto be raising him, thats what Hugo implies.

[mahalo_dude]

I think she dies in the explosion and that is why Miles was looking at her like that, because he knows the truth. That is also why he let her walk away in the middle of the night.


????So who was carrying Aaron through the jungle? Mother Theresa?????

[1hourisntlongenough]

I thought Miles was after Aaron...he's waaay too interested in him!! Always looking, offering to help with him......guys don't usually do that in general; nevermind it being someone he doesn't know.

[InLikeFlynn]

I think the Island Manifests itself as other like Jacks/Claires dad to talk to them or maybe in this case to keep them from leaving.

[lostlindy]

????So who was carrying Aaron through the jungle? Mother Theresa?????

We saw Christian Shepard holding Aaron so I assume it was he who carried him through the jungle.

[LostFreak21]

What I got out of it is Christian shows up and is holding Aaron they walk off into the woods and leave Aaron because Kate is suppose to have him. I think that Claire is "dead" just like most of the people on the Island.

[Puga]

????So who was carrying Aaron through the jungle? Mother Theresa?????

Well, if you use that logic, then how was Christian holding him?

[stargazer]

So where did Claire go too, then. I hope we don't find her face up in the dirt.

[BomberDawg95]

I'm going to say Claire is following her father somewhere. At the end of this journey, she runs into Jack, who has also been following Christian. Then they both lose him as they get close to each other and emerge with him in between them. It is there they learn that they are siblings. (Jack knew he was related to Aaron this past evening by his comment: "You're not even related to him")

[imascootinspook]

gosh the idea that Miles is staring at Claire because she is already dead seems slightly likely. I was always thinking that he had the psychic ability to know she was going to die soon and he was showing sympathy or empathy for Aaron. Whatever is going on with Claire right now, Miles knows what's going on and I think he knew Christian was dead which leads me back too..that slightly possibility that Claire is already dead.

[stargazer]

I'm going to say Claire is following her father somewhere. At the end of this journey, she runs into Jack, who has also been following Christian. Then they both lose him as they get close to each other and emerge with him in between them. It is there they learn that they are siblings. (Jack knew he was related to Aaron this past evening by his comment: "You're not even related to him")

I heard that. Jack definetly found out somehow that Aaron is his nephew.

[1hourisntlongenough]

We saw Christian Shepard holding Aaron so I assume it was he who carried him through the jungle.

Yea true...when Claire woke up Aaron was already in Christian's arms by the fire. She got up, said "Dad" and followed them into the jungle. I think Miles knows the whole story and is now just busting Sawyer's balls.

[1hourisntlongenough]

I'm going to say Claire is following her father somewhere. At the end of this journey, she runs into Jack, who has also been following Christian. Then they both lose him as they get close to each other and emerge with him in between them. It is there they learn that they are siblings. (Jack knew he was related to Aaron this past evening by his comment: "You're not even related to him")

Yes...I'm with you here, too. I also think Miles knows soooo much and keeps his mouth shut!!! Grrrrrr......

[mahalo_dude]

Well, if you use that argument, then how was Christian holding him?

She dreamed it. Or, he's still part of this world somehow, thanks to the island.
Well, you are saying that both Sawyer and Miles were seeing the same thing throughout their trek through the jungle. Plus, think about the scene last week with Hurley, Locke, and Ben when everyone split. Are you saying Locke, Hurley, Miles, Sawyer, and Ben all saw a dead Claire holding Aaron? I doubt it. If Claire is dead, then I would think Sawyer, Miles, et al would figure out that they would have to be the ones carrying Aaron.
When Sawyer found the baby under the tree, she may very well be dead at this point. But she did not die in the explosion. That does not make sense.

[mattt]

So if Claire is running around (dead) with Aaron at her side, then why isnt Anna Lucia walking around beatting people up and Eko building a church. It doesnt make sense that one dead person (Claire) can walk around carrying a baby while one is only haunting people in their dreams (Libby to Michael). Doesnt seem to add up.

[iggyjeckel]

ok correct me if I'm wrong but charlie sacrificed himself so aaron AND clair could get off the island. maybe clair is still alive and that's what hurley meant. that she should still be taking care of him. I don't know but I think clair is off the island along with aaron. just no one knows

[wvugurl]

i do not think that claire is dead at this point in time....

[mahalo_dude]

i do not think that claire is dead at this point in time....

I don't either. I feel that we will get to see her and Jack make their connection. I'm not sure what'll happen to her after that, though...

[wvugurl]

im thinking that claire finds out before jack leaves that they are brother/sister...but i am not so sure jack will know before hand..it may be way later that he "sees" his dad and finds out the truth

[Patchouli Princess]

Jack knew that Aaron was his nephew before he left the island. That's why he was at first unable to visit Kate's house during her trial. His drinking may in large part be due not to just the visions he has, but the guilt he feels over leaving his sister behind on the island while he's living well and raising Aaron with Kate. It's why he's getting angry with Kate and telling her that Aaron isn't her kid, that Aaron isn't even related to her. It's why Jack wants to go back and get everyone still left on the island. It's why Jack is being told that he shouldn't be the one raising Aaron. The only logical, natural alternative would be Claire. I think that the writers are setting up a scenario where Jack will lead the way in re-finding the island and reuniting his sister and nephew.

What do you all think?

[boutte]

Jack knew that Aaron was his nephew before he left the island. That's why he was at first unable to visit Kate's house during her trial. His drinking may in large part be due not to just the visions he has, but the guilt he feels over leaving his sister behind on the island while he's living well and raising Aaron with Kate. It's why he's getting angry with Kate and telling her that Aaron isn't her kid, that Aaron isn't even related to her. It's why Jack wants to go back and get everyone still left on the island. It's why Jack is being told that he shouldn't be the one raising Aaron. The only logical, natural alternative would be Claire. I think that the writers are setting up a scenario where Jack will lead the way in re-finding the island and reuniting his sister and nephew.

What do you all think?
Sounds "about" right to me. But why would Claire stay on the Island and let Kate take her baby. There are people who can't leave the Island for various reasons. Locke because he would be crippled and Roe because of her cancer. Does something happen (or has happened) that would keep her from being able to leave?

Of course the real question is what is it about Aaron that is so important?

[lenk@]

ooh that would be freaky. That means that Sawyer got shot too and died.
Except Frank saw them both...
that if did I get it right, Soera would put to death?:(
god my?:eek: it is exact, or it is simple guess-work...

[Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid]

We saw Christian Shepard holding Aaron so I assume it was he who carried him through the jungle.

Can ghosts carry babies?

[imascootinspook]

Can ghosts carry babies?

Well according to what I see on Ghost Hunters they can throw real objects across the room :eek: lol

[hunter8768]

I think she dies in the explosion and that is why Miles was looking at her like that, because he knows the truth. That is also why he let her walk away in the middle of the night.
I agree. somehow she is kept alive long enough to get Aaron to safety and then Christian was sent to collect her. I'm thinking that Claire and Christian also appear to Jack later and that is how he finds out that she is his sister.

Think about something else. What is the person that Hurley said was going to be visiting was Claire. Hear me out. Hurley sees Charlie all of the time. Charlie was kind of dating Claire. If Claire really is dead, then wouldn't it make sense that they, Claire and Charlie, might be together in the after life? I mean, who better to tell Hurley that Claire was going to be visiting Jack than Charlie?

Maybe thats how he knows that Aaron is really his nephew. Remember in the house when he tells Kate that she isn't even related to Aaron. He is implying that he is, but not her. Maybe the reason he knows is that Claire appeared to him after he saw Hurley and told him everything and thats why Jack is so f#%ked up later. He knows to much.

[addictedtopainmeds]

I heard that. Jack definetly found out somehow that Aaron is his nephew.

that statement jack made doesn't prove anything. i mean, everyone on the island knows that aaron is claire's. he was just stating a fact. that doesn't prove that he knows claire is his half-sister

[ortrules]

that statement jack made doesn't prove anything. i mean, everyone on the island knows that aaron is claire's. he was just stating a fact. that doesn't prove that he knows claire is his half-sister

Right, Jack didn't say anything that makes it seems like he knows he and Claire are related. All he said was that Aaron isn't related to Kate, simply because he knows Aaron is Claire's.

[Patchouli Princess]

Sounds "about" right to me. But why would Claire stay on the Island and let Kate take her baby. There are people who can't leave the Island for various reasons. Locke because he would be crippled and Roe because of her cancer. Does something happen (or has happened) that would keep her from being able to leave?

Of course the real question is what is it about Aaron that is so important?

I think that it's possible the rescue will come sooner than we expect, with some sort of war over the island creating a situation where the Oceanic Six escape while others are left behind. In this war, a few people, like Jin, die. If this war/rescue occurs while Claire is off in the woods without Aaron, it's perfectly feasible that an emergency situation could take place where Kate grabs Aaron, thinking that Claire is either dead or soon to be rescued.

My other question: The kids are aging quickly. The Aaron living with Kate is a walking, talking three- or four-year-old. We all know that the actor playing Walt is halfway through puberty by now. Will the "science" of the island explain this rapid aging process, or is the island in some sort of slow time warp where years on the outside equal days on the island, and when people leave the island, time starts to catch up with them? That would explain the aging process of kids off the island. That is, Walt and Aaron were on the island a certain number of months, but each month added up to maybe a year on the outside, so when the kids got off the island, they were years older than anyone realized?

Just my thoughts and questions. :)

[LostandFound]

i do not think that claire is dead at this point in time....

I agree with you wvugurl....I just posted this on another thread but I'm pretty sure I saw her and Aaron in a scene from the preview from next weeks episode. It was a quick flash from a scene where she was sitting beside Sun. (who had a big smile on her face by the way....you don't see smiles alot from the losties these days). I'm gonna try and get a screen shot of this. Did anyone else see her, or am I imagining this? :confused:

[Jon]

Well, if you use that logic, then how was Christian holding him?

using my theory of hallucinations that actually manifest into physical beings, it holds up :)

[LostandFound]

Ok, so Claire is definitly not dead IMO. I have a screen shot with her in it from the preview for next weeks episode, but I just don't know how to post it here! LOL
She is sitting beside Sun and has Aaron with her.

[Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid]

Sounds "about" right to me. But why would Claire stay on the Island and let Kate take her baby. There are people who can't leave the Island for various reasons. Locke because he would be crippled and Roe because of her cancer. Does something happen (or has happened) that would keep her from being able to leave?

Of course the real question is what is it about Aaron that is so important?

Me thinks Aaron's going to save the world, Boutte... and if Claire doesn't raise him, then something will happen to him before he's fulfilled his destiny.
Like John Conner. Maybe??

[mahalo_dude]

Ok, so Claire is definitly not dead IMO. I have a screen shot with her in it from the preview for next weeks episode, but I just don't know how to post it here! LOL
She is sitting beside Sun and has Aaron with her.

Plus all of the written previews say she goes to the cabin with Locke.

[J-BZ]

I dont know if anyone said this yet, but I dont think claire is dead! I remember in season three before charlie does his mission, Desmond has a vision of claire holding aaron getting onto the helicopter! Also Jack says during the trail "That 8 survived the crash but only 6 lived," Which makes me think the 8 were jin, sun, claire, aaron, hurley, kate, jack, and sayid. and jin and claire die somewhere along the line! Hmmm idk something to think about! Sorry if this was already talked about!

[Smokin20]

Jack knew that Aaron was his nephew before he left the island. That's why he was at first unable to visit Kate's house during her trial. His drinking may in large part be due not to just the visions he has, but the guilt he feels over leaving his sister behind on the island while he's living well and raising Aaron with Kate. It's why he's getting angry with Kate and telling her that Aaron isn't her kid, that Aaron isn't even related to her. It's why Jack wants to go back and get everyone still left on the island. It's why Jack is being told that he shouldn't be the one raising Aaron. The only logical, natural alternative would be Claire. I think that the writers are setting up a scenario where Jack will lead the way in re-finding the island and reuniting his sister and nephew.

What do you all think?
I totally agree with you and THAT is the very reason Kate doesn't want to go back. Then she would have to give up "her" baby.

[beachblinkette]

I'd love that scenario! Is the shot with Claire sitting next to Sun really Claire? All I saw in the preview was someone changing Aaron and it could have been Juliet or Claire. I hope Claire doesn't die. She's been such a great mom to Aaron. She's another diamond in the rough on Lost.

But then I think what was the rigamarole with Miles and Christian and then Claire waking up? It's very much like Miles ghostbusting the teenage boy to leave his room because he had a mission to leave the money for his old granny or whoever. Does Miles' special ability include channeling other people? Making Claire see Christian?

What exactly are Aaron's powers? Is his strong bond to Claire and her bond with him a theme that could account for her not knowing she's actually dead.? Maybe Babies are not born on the island so that they will not die in the future. Maybe keeping people around them becomes a threat to the essence of the island.
Begin playing eerie music now.....

[Archangel-Player]

I think Jacob was guiding Claire. Why would he leave Arron?. Because he knew that Sawyer and Miles would take care of him. More than that why was Clair so willing to leave him? I think Christian is another illussion by Jacob. Just as he showed Hurley the cabin.

[Turnip Queen]

????So who was carrying Aaron through the jungle? Mother Theresa?????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That made me laugh out loud! Claire's still alive - I think we might even see her in the next episode at the cabin, since Christian seems to spend a bit of time there!