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denden413
05-03-2008, 01:17 AM
At the end of the episode when Kate tells Jack that she is doing something for Sawyer, Jack says that he is the one that came back and then he tells Kate "I'm the one who saved you." Does anyone know what Jack meant by that.

islander
05-03-2008, 01:25 AM
At the end of the episode when Kate tells Jack that she is doing something for Sawyer, Jack says that he is the one that came back and then he tells Kate "I'm the one who saved you." Does anyone know what Jack meant by that.

i thought Jack was taking credit for getting Kate off the island.

rip-charlie
05-03-2008, 01:43 AM
At the end of the episode when Kate tells Jack that she is doing something for Sawyer, Jack says that he is the one that came back and then he tells Kate "I'm the one who saved you." Does anyone know what Jack meant by that.

i'm sure we will find out but I like knowing now that there are ones that choose to stay!

danielle222
05-03-2008, 02:56 AM
Yeah, there is something behind some of them choosing to stay. I think Jack is refering to his testimony at Kate's trial when he said "I'm the one who saved you."

uncalledfor
05-03-2008, 03:00 AM
yes i agree with u all, i think he meant the trial, but mostly i think he meant getting her off the island. Id also like to point out-- did anyone else sorta connect him saying hes "the one who was here and had saved her" to when Ben was telling Juliet that he had done everything for her and she was his? It sorta creeped me out when Jack was ranting like this.... but yeah!!!!

coldandevell
05-03-2008, 03:06 AM
Well if I remember correctly Ben (or perhaps someone else or more than one person)was poking at Jack about having issues with a need to save people and be the hero. A lot of his story-lines in flashback revolved around that. He lost his first wife because of this character flaw as well. Locke kept saying to Jack that Jack was not ready to leave in a seemingly spiritual sense. That he hadn't learn what the island could teach him. SO perhaps we are seeing again that character flaw is coming back to haunt him. He also has a need to control things. He seems like he is trying to control Kate and using because he saved her as the guilt factor. He also has issues with knowing when to keep his mouth shut. He didn't trust her and ruined everything.

danielle222
05-05-2008, 03:11 AM
I think we'll see Jack going back to the island at some point. It's beckoning him to come back. For Juliette? Maybe, but I think it is more than that. He needs to be back on that island.

wvugurl
05-05-2008, 03:14 AM
i took it as one of those relationship fights where something can be thrown up in your face...ya know like when someone cheats then the 2 "work it ou" and the fights after that is like-im not the one who cheated....thats just how i took it just one of those topics that you can easily throw up to someone for the rest of their life

sirchin
05-05-2008, 05:42 AM
Yeah, he wants Kate to OWE him something, so he can hold it over her head, and rub her nose in it. He's a F#%!ng control freak. He's mentally abusive to women in his life.

Lockeisthekey
05-05-2008, 06:32 AM
That is definately Jack's main inner demon and driving characteristic. It's been mentioned time and again in the show. He HAS to save everyone. He married the woman he miraculously saved from paralysis cause she was so incredibly grateful and fed his savior complex. But that admiration didn't last. The island doesn't care very much for Jack cause he's too into science and doesn't have enough faith in what he can't understand. It allowed (or even caused) his appendicitis for calling the freighter. He isn't a reluctant hero - he wants to be the leader cause he's convinced he's the only one who can get them all home, although I think he really has nothing to do with it. When we finally see how the O6 get off the island, Im betting that it's a set of circumstances that Jack isn't really responsible for. But he obviously takes the credit for (at least with Kate).

JASYMORRI
05-05-2008, 12:21 PM
i'm sure we will find out but I like knowing now that there are ones that choose to stay!

Sawyer would need to have had a very very good reason to stay and let Kate slip through his fingers :) If not he's a nut job

Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
05-05-2008, 12:56 PM
Sawyer would need to have had a very very good reason to stay and let Kate slip through his fingers :) If not he's a nut job

morning, Jasymorri. How do you like our forum so far?
Um, I think Ben put some self doubt into Sawyer when he told him he was a big man on campus as long as they were on the island, but that if he were to go back, he couldn't compare to Dr. Jack. I figured that was why he had no reason (plus no ties) to return. But now he seems sort of lost to me without Kate to "protect" and he's latched on to Claire.

mhzmike
05-06-2008, 07:38 AM
At the end of the episode when Kate tells Jack that she is doing something for Sawyer, Jack says that he is the one that came back and then he tells Kate "I'm the one who saved you." Does anyone know what Jack meant by that.

about an all new "LOST"....

Now the scene at the airport with the bearded Jack and Kate make a lot of sense. After that off-the-cuff, below the belt remark to Kate regarding her DNA relationship to Aaron, she divorced herself from the WHOLE Jack relationship.

On the phone with Sawyer, she indicated Jack wouldnt be around, and if you remember, that was a HUGE issue with Sarah. So he will end a failing relationship with Kate, begin the drug, and drinking thing to "forget his problems", and think, "Damn...I had Juliette. I shoulda hit it".......let's break for commercials, and we'll be back after this.....

Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
05-06-2008, 01:05 PM
about an all new "LOST"....

Now the scene at the airport with the bearded Jack and Kate make a lot of sense. After that off-the-cuff, below the belt remark to Kate regarding her DNA relationship to Aaron, she divorced herself from the WHOLE Jack relationship.

On the phone with Sawyer, she indicated Jack wouldnt be around, and if you remember, that was a HUGE issue with Sarah. So he will end a failing relationship with Kate, begin the drug, and drinking thing to "forget his problems", and think, "Damn...I had Juliette. I shoulda hit it".......let's break for commercials, and we'll be back after this.....

Kate wasn't on the phone with Sawyer. He's back on the island.

Tater13
05-06-2008, 06:21 PM
I think he is just referring to getting her off the island. Nothing more.

Turnip Queen
05-06-2008, 10:18 PM
Yeah I reckon he's referring to the trial too - and he IS getting a little Ben-like with his 'ownership' of Kate! He's just puffing himself up to make himself feel better.

Lost Down Under
05-07-2008, 01:39 AM
So the FF when Kate and (bearded) Jack were at the airport - do you think that happened before or after the FF with Kate and (unbearded) Jack playing mommies and daddies?

My brain is a bit fried at the mo....but....with all the flashbacks, they started by showing the characters getting on the plane or their lead up to the plane journey. Then they start to go further and further back into time. I thought (probably wrongly) that the FF were shown quite far into the future of the O6 getting off the island and then moving to the time closer to when they were rescued. But instead, they seem to be all over the place. Especially the one with Jin. I would love to see some sort of time line done of all the characters and their FB and FFs. Does anybody know if there is one out there somewhere?

denden413
05-07-2008, 02:22 AM
[QUOTE=Lost Down Under;45838]So the FF when Kate and (bearded) Jack were at the airport - do you think that happened before or after the FF with Kate and (unbearded) Jack playing mommies and daddies?

The airport scene definitely happened after jack and Kate got engaged. This was the start of Jack being addicted to pills and growing a beard and leaving Kate and Aaron behind. The airport scene is after Jack has already been hooked on pills for a while and has a full beard and basically has to beg Kate just to come and meet him at the airport.

JfromtheD
08-12-2009, 12:27 AM
What lies in the shadow of the statue?

He who will save you? :D