"survived by a teenage son"

[TuesdaySmith]

I keep hearing people say that the obituary of the dead mystery guy said that he was survived by a teenaged son. Where does it say that?

Nothing I've read actually says that.. is this for real, or a rumor?

Does anyone have a link?

[Spicy563]

Here is the link I found online: http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/05/30/lost-finale-jacks-newspaper-clipping

I know last year they had an actual newspaper clipping that was blown up so you can read it but I can't find that anymore. Hope this helps!

[TuesdaySmith]

No, it didn't help! haha.. But thanks for posting that. I just feel like it's a big rumor! They have some screen shots of it on darkUFO where it's flipped around to all different angles and it's blown up, but it seems like the part where it would say "survived by a teenaged son" is bent over.. no amount of blowing up/cleaning up the resolution would allow anyone to read it because it's folded. I don't know, maybe there's another scene that I'm totally missing where it's flat, but I've been looking and I can't find one.

Am I the only one questioning this?

[THEoceanicSix]

I keep hearing everyone say that the person in the coffin was Michael but too many things give it away, i dont think the creators of LOST, the craziest show ever, would make it that simple.

[TuesdaySmith]

I agree.. I don't think it's Michael..

I'm partial to the Ben theory.

And I don't think there is a teenaged son. I feel like the reason so many people think it's Michael is because of the son thing, but I really think the son is just a rumor. It's not visible on the screen, at all.

[Turnip Queen]

I still think it's Ben too, because Jack says he's not a friend or family member. Unless it's someone else like another member of the Others who's neither friend or family to Jack, and the next few episodes introduce another option!

[mrstooge8it2]

Here's an enhanced image of the newspaper obituary.
http://bp0.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/...rclipping2.jpg

"The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue.

Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's loft.

Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room.

According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham (sic) is survived by one teenaged son.

Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening."


and here is another link:

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2007/05/newspaper-through-looking-glass.html

Am I going CRAZY - nowhere do I see or make out the words survived by teenaged son

[KarmaKate]

tuesdaysmith, check out this discussion if you like:
http://www.lost.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177

[jwfalzone]

Look around losteastereggs.blogspot.com

there is an enhanced image that clearly shows the "teenage son"

bottom of page one, top of page twoish.


JWFalzone

[the chimp]

the guy in the coffin is Locke! he has no family, no friends.

[TuesdaySmith]

Am I going CRAZY - nowhere do I see or make out the words survived by teenaged son

I know! That's what I'm saying.. where is that coming from? That first link didn't work, but I've seen enhanced versions on darkUFO and the part that could say something about a teenaged son is totally bent over. No amount of enhancing could help. That's why I feel like it's a rumor..

[TuesdaySmith]

Look around losteastereggs.blogspot.com

there is an enhanced image that clearly shows the "teenage son"

bottom of page one, top of page twoish.


JWFalzone

Ok.. here's my problem.. maybe I'm missing something.. I've searched that site and I can't find anything that "clearly" shows the teenage son line.. I can't even find anything that blurrily-but-I-can-kinda-make-it-out shows it. I've been looking at screenshots of it since last season.. I've become obsessed recently because of all the teenage son talk... I care less about who is in the coffin than I do about whether or not the obituary says something about a teenaged son. Do you have a direct link to the picture that clearly shows it? Or is there any way you can upload it here? Or is there anybody else that can?

[PacmanIsLost]

i haven't seen anything saying that there was a teenage son either, and really hadn't been much concerned about who was in the coffin until today when the pieces started to come together for me suggesting that it was in fact John Locke... The initials are the same as in the obit which would seem a bit too obvious but it also may suggest that Locke is not one of the oceanic 6 but does end up off of the island somehow and changes his last name so that he may never be associated with flight 815 and garner all the media attention that would come with it...and many things point to Locke... first off there is the fact that Jack is upset on the plane when he reads the obit and later cries at the funeral though he says that the person is neither friend nor family...this seems to represent a series of complex emotions for Jack given the circumstances and i feel that Jack and Locke's relationship would be the best fit for Jack's reaction here... The obituary also pushes Jack to the point of suicide which is only thwarted when the car crash occurs, but right before it does occur he says "oh, forgive me" which could be him calling out to a higher power but also he could be speaking to Locke here and asking for forgiveness for leaving the island and screwing up everything that they could have had which he only realizes now was actually a blessing in disguise....Jack reads an LA paper and Locke worked in Tustin and on top of that we don't really know where he is from originally (as far as i can remember) and of course the new york part could have still been made up as part of him reinventing himself... I also don't buy the argument that it has to be a black person because it is a black neighborhood...if he had no one to come to the funeral/showing then he was most likely sent to a funeral home near where he died to reduce costs... and if there is a teenage son well he could very well have a 13-year old at this point with Helen and not have known about it since he didnt see her after she left as far as we know....anyways, i just don't see all the pieces quite fitting for Michael as i can't see Jack tearing up over him dying and Locke was much more likely to have absolutely no one at his funeral because that is the kind of life he had in the outside world and i think it affected Jack because even though he grew to hate him, he still seems to respect him to some degree, but i don't think kate would feel the same way which i think explains her reaction at the end of their flash forward...

[meesterperfect]

I still think it's Ben too, because Jack says he's not a friend or family member. Unless it's someone else like another member of the Others who's neither friend or family to Jack, and the next few episodes introduce another option!

This is a common misunderstanding. When Jack is asked "friend or family?" He answers by saying "Either" not "Neither". I played it several times to verify.

[beachblinkette]

The guy in the coffin is the Lost writer who wrote Jack's unhappy ending. He has no friends or family.

[KarmaKate]

thought you might like the theories from the discussion. you could always ask one of the people who posted the quote where they found it.

[darlingangel81]

i haven't seen anything saying that there was a teenage son either, and really hadn't been much concerned about who was in the coffin until today when the pieces started to come together for me suggesting that it was in fact John Locke... The initials are the same as in the obit which would seem a bit too obvious but it also may suggest that Locke is not one of the oceanic 6 but does end up off of the island somehow and changes his last name so that he may never be associated with flight 815 and garner all the media attention that would come with it...and many things point to Locke... first off there is the fact that Jack is upset on the plane when he reads the obit and later cries at the funeral though he says that the person is neither friend nor family...this seems to represent a series of complex emotions for Jack given the circumstances and i feel that Jack and Locke's relationship would be the best fit for Jack's reaction here... The obituary also pushes Jack to the point of suicide which is only thwarted when the car crash occurs, but right before it does occur he says "oh, forgive me" which could be him calling out to a higher power but also he could be speaking to Locke here and asking for forgiveness for leaving the island and screwing up everything that they could have had which he only realizes now was actually a blessing in disguise....Jack reads an LA paper and Locke worked in Tustin and on top of that we don't really know where he is from originally (as far as i can remember) and of course the new york part could have still been made up as part of him reinventing himself... I also don't buy the argument that it has to be a black person because it is a black neighborhood...if he had no one to come to the funeral/showing then he was most likely sent to a funeral home near where he died to reduce costs... and if there is a teenage son well he could very well have a 13-year old at this point with Helen and not have known about it since he didnt see her after she left as far as we know....anyways, i just don't see all the pieces quite fitting for Michael as i can't see Jack tearing up over him dying and Locke was much more likely to have absolutely no one at his funeral because that is the kind of life he had in the outside world and i think it affected Jack because even though he grew to hate him, he still seems to respect him to some degree, but i don't think kate would feel the same way which i think explains her reaction at the end of their flash forward...

I thought that Locke never met Helen. I watched the Walkabout episode in season 1 where he is talking with her on the phone, he has bought her a ticket to Australia, and she said she can't meet customers.

[darlingangel81]

I do think Locke could be one of the options to who is in the coffin. Though I do suspect it will be someone VERY unexpected.

[Dzbabykel]

I thought that Locke never met Helen. I watched the Walkabout episode in season 1 where he is talking with her on the phone, he has bought her a ticket to Australia, and she said she can't meet customers.

No remember Helen was his girlfriend (haha the woman who was on Married with Children) and she left him because Locke basically chose his father over her and she was fed up. The OTHER random Helen was the sex phone operator (I believe) and he wanted to meet her because her name was Helen and I think she filled a void he had. But anyways, I think he's referring to the other Helen.....they could have had a kid since she left so abruptly.

[darlingangel81]

I wonder if he got attached to phone Helen because her name was Helen?

[Dzbabykel]

Yah I think thats why, he was trying to replace old Helen because he was still in love with her.

[TuesdaySmith]

I thought that Locke never met Helen. I watched the Walkabout episode in season 1 where he is talking with her on the phone, he has bought her a ticket to Australia, and she said she can't meet customers.

??

Helen was the woman that he dated, was in love with, and asked to marry him. She said no.. She was in a whole bunch of flashbacks.. Peggy Bundy? The anger management club? You don't remember any of this?

[TuesdaySmith]

This is a common misunderstanding. When Jack is asked "friend or family?" He answers by saying "Either" not "Neither". I played it several times to verify.

No, he really does say "neither". Go read the thread about this.

[PacmanIsLost]

either is also not a proper response to the question and i think it's safe to say that an M.D. would not make that mistake

[youalleverybody]

No, it didn't help! haha.. But thanks for posting that. I just feel like it's a big rumor! They have some screen shots of it on darkUFO where it's flipped around to all different angles and it's blown up, but it seems like the part where it would say "survived by a teenaged son" is bent over.. no amount of blowing up/cleaning up the resolution would allow anyone to read it because it's folded. I don't know, maybe there's another scene that I'm totally missing where it's flat, but I've been looking and I can't find one.

Am I the only one questioning this?

Yes, I think you are the only one questioning this

[Ezekiel 25:17]

dude, definenetly now michael , nuff said.

[TuesdaySmith]

Yes, I think you are the only one questioning this

haha.. I think it's weird that people are grabbing onto the teenaged son thing as if there were proof of it!

"It's definitely Michael.. duh, it says he had a teenaged son!" and things like that.

Oh well...