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Nikkos
01-26-2008, 11:36 PM
It's bugging me, I mean what are your views? You may have heard the rumour yourself or have gone searching pictures; what do you think? I've screenshot a pic here from the season 4 extended preview tell me what you think!

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Jayk
01-27-2008, 07:28 PM
the producers have said things about how the time line doesn't really work like normal on the island and i think that even though charlie actually did die, i don't think we've seen the last of the character in the series.

tracey1
01-27-2008, 07:45 PM
i read somewhere that charlie is dead, but i hope he isnt bcuz charlie is such a great character.

WVDragonlady
01-27-2008, 08:30 PM
I've found that they use old shots of the characters in the previews just to throw us off. I'm hoping that chawlie is still with us. He was one of the few characters that you really didn't know what he was going to do from "day to day". Not like some of the more predictable ones.

jjdfw
01-28-2008, 02:29 AM
Charlie was evil.
Charlie was good.
Charlie was hilarious!

Charlie is dead.

Nikkos
01-28-2008, 03:24 PM
I think that sums it up really!

Ezekiel 25:17
01-29-2008, 02:54 AM
Charlie's dead. But his character is definently not out of LOST. He'll return in flashbacks, just like in the 4 trailer, I think I saw him for a second, it was a flashback.

Swerve
01-29-2008, 01:05 PM
i think hurley will experience some of what locke experienced when boone died. remember it was only after boone died that locke started getting all "a sacrifice the island demanded" and started having visions of the island telling him to "get to work".

Now that charlie is dead i think hurley will develop a connection as they were strong friends, and that charlie will affect hurleys plot most of all.

I think hurley will be one of the characters most desperate to leave the island, his girlfriend died, his best mate died, the numbers, i think he is afraid of the island, of being stuck there.

Make no bones about it though Charlie is definately dead. Though not buried.

Nikkos
01-29-2008, 04:10 PM
I'm not convinced he's dead, or anyone else that has meant to have died. I hope Charlie is dead though he's annoying lol

heavensprincess
01-29-2008, 06:03 PM
Charlie is alive Damn it...lol...at least I hope he is.

BrothaDezzy
01-30-2008, 02:48 PM
Hes definetly dead. He might be in recent flashbacks to some of the castaways, but I bet he is a vision to one of them probably Claire or Hurley. Hes got a haircut in the preview he looks all cleaned up.

parapadme
01-30-2008, 08:49 PM
In the Season 4 trailer, with the shot of Charlie... someone mentioned this is a flashback... he's clearly talking to Hurley, and if this were a flashback to a time on the island, well that doesn't seem logical, considering Charlie is wearing what seems to be a nice leather jacket, and his hair is darker. Regardless of if Dom in his normal life dyed his hair, the makers of Lost wouldn't let a mistake like that occur. So this is something not passed, but is Charlie alive? Though he had that gaping broken window, it's most likely he accepted his fate.

My guess would be that the shot of Charlie in the trailer is an apparation created by the black smoke.

mionee
01-30-2008, 11:55 PM
okay.


Charlie IS NOT dead.

I refuse to believe it. Charlie's waaay too big a character ((not to mention awesome!)) to be killed off. My other friend doesn't believe it. I feel so bad for her. Everyone she loved on the show gets killed. Boone and now Charlie. But seriously! Charlie can't be dead! it's totally unfair! =[ my heart will break if he doesn't come back. :'(

Ezekiel 25:17
01-31-2008, 02:32 AM
okay.


Charlie IS NOT dead.

I refuse to believe it. Charlie's waaay too big a character ((not to mention awesome!)) to be killed off. My other friend doesn't believe it. I feel so bad for her. Everyone she loved on the show gets killed. Boone and now Charlie. But seriously! Charlie can't be dead! it's totally unfair! =[ my heart will break if he doesn't come back. :'(
Sweet, really touching. But I think Dominic is signed for another show this summer probably lord of the rings again or somthing lol. Charlie died, his only returns will be in flashbacks, mostly of other peoples pasts. I don't want to be mean or anything but I really didn't like Dominic's character until the last episode, sort of the misunderstood character, it didn't suit him. I guess i will always see him as Merry. Back to the Shire Mr. Frodo!!

BrothaDezzy
01-31-2008, 02:01 PM
Sweet, really touching. But I think Dominic is signed for another show this summer probably lord of the rings again or somthing lol. Charlie died, his only returns will be in flashbacks, mostly of other peoples pasts. I don't want to be mean or anything but I really didn't like Dominic's character until the last episode, sort of the misunderstood character, it didn't suit him. I guess i will always see him as Merry. Back to the Shire Mr. Frodo!!

Ha Ha back to the shire with Charlies ass. He is so dead, you pretty much watch him die. The only thing I couldnt understand was he had plenty of time to get out of the room before cyclops blew the window out. If he had enough time to run up and lock desmond out he would have enough time to run out of the room close the door and spin the lock on it and survive. But hey its a TV show and the actor probably had other movies to do. I bet well see him from time to time tho.

Wade3971
01-31-2008, 07:54 PM
I have a funny feeling that Charlie is not dead. If you remember, one of the girls told him that the chamber with the switch is waterproof and cannot be damaged. I have a feeling the water will get sucked and Charlie will be saved.

forever lost
01-31-2008, 07:58 PM
Charlie's gotta be alive! Gotta....

BrothaDezzy
01-31-2008, 08:04 PM
I have a funny feeling that Charlie is not dead. If you remember, one of the girls told him that the chamber with the switch is waterproof and cannot be damaged. I have a feeling the water will get sucked and Charlie will be saved.

Thats a good theory...

lostfan11
02-01-2008, 12:09 AM
remeber when he said that he could swim for 4 minutes well, may be just may be he swam up and he is still alive it could be possible could it

mionee
02-05-2008, 03:43 AM
Charlie has to be alive. I think it's possible he swam out. I love charlie ((as i said before)) but really, he can't be dead, he just can't be!!

Ezekiel 25:17
02-05-2008, 03:47 AM
Why can't he be dead? Unless that porthole had another glass that slid out and stopped the water then all the water drained out then hes alive, but dying cause he has no food. He's gone, just like the theme of LOST "LET IT GO" LET IT GO!!:D

LostFreak21
02-05-2008, 04:12 AM
When Hurley was at the police station and Charlie came swimming to the window did anyone notice that written on his hand it said "they need you". We framed by framed it and that is what was written. Then, when he visited Hurley, he also said "they need you". He didn't say I need you he said they need you.

Dzbabykel
02-05-2008, 05:16 AM
Why can't he be dead? Unless that porthole had another glass that slid out and stopped the water then all the water drained out then hes alive, but dying cause he has no food. He's gone, just like the theme of LOST "LET IT GO" LET IT GO!!:D

LOL!! Yaaaaah seriously doubtful, although if he got skinny enough due to lack of food he could then perhaps fit through the little porthole to swim out, but I'm sure he would lack all the energy needed to get to the top haha. Ok ok, I kid I kid :p

squire41
02-05-2008, 08:47 AM
As it pans back from Charlie's face you can see that he still has not let out the breath that he was holding throughout that scene.That window behind him was big enough for him to have slip out of after Desmond had stopped looking at Charlie. I think there is a very good possibility that Charlie is still alive. Plus there should have been air left in that room after the water had equalized the pressure, leaving oxygen near the top for Charlie to breath.

aZiXx
02-05-2008, 09:33 PM
LOL. Charlie be dead! He could have not died, by swimming out of the hole. I am taller than him and I know I could fit through that. You stick one arm and shoulder out, then goes the head, and t hen the other arm shoulder, if it wasn't big enough to fit both shoulders at the same time. But it was scripted that he dies since he accepted his fate.

Charlie was meant to die since the lighting incident. Desmond kept saving him, but this time Charlie felt he needed to die. he was embracing his destiny. He could have also ran through the door and then locked it up, but again it wasn't scripted to work out that way, since he was supposed to die.

And as for still having air left... the actor needs to still have air left since hes not actually dying. So yeah... LOL

Let it go, seriously. Move on to other theories. If he comes back, well good.

squire41
02-05-2008, 09:55 PM
This post is for theories about whether Charlie dies or not.

Its not for criticism of others theories, so stop it

aZiXx
02-05-2008, 10:46 PM
This post is for theories about whether Charlie dies or not.

Its not for criticism of others theories, so stop it

Sorry to offend you... But criticizing and evaluating theories is part of a process to validate a theory. If we just leave people's theories and don't talk about why a theory is right or wrong... then that's pretty lame from my perspective of getting at what Lost holds for the future.

rip-charlie
02-05-2008, 11:50 PM
remeber when he said that he could swim for 4 minutes well, may be just may be he swam up and he is still alive it could be possible could it

I was thinking the samething they never showed him DEAD!!!!! I mean he could have saved his air and swam through the hole and swam to the top. I don't think he is dead we will see if there are anymore visions know what i mean?

Ezekiel 25:17
02-06-2008, 12:25 AM
You guys desperatly need to follow Locke's advice and LET IT GO ALREADY! There is no use in beating a dead horse, or a fictional rockstar for that matter LOL! Hes gone, just let it go, let it go...... gone, see how easy it was lol.:eek:

squire41
02-06-2008, 09:33 AM
Heres more food for thought. When it shows Charlie in Hurley's hallucination swimming up to the 2 way mirror in the police station. He is swimming on the ocean floor that looks like where the looking glass place was. And when he shows his hand with the writing on it he means that the other group(Jack's) on the island needs him, not Locke's group.

That shows that he could have escaped, because I don't just see Charlie giving up that easily. He loves Claire and the baby to much.

aZiXx
02-06-2008, 08:30 PM
So, your theory is Charlie escaped because we see him appear in a police station vision? I don't mean to offend, but that is pretty weak.

Snape
02-06-2008, 09:08 PM
Yes, I agree with Azixx. And the show is famous for red herrings - leading you to believe something, then showing you a similar assocation that makes you believe something is as it shouldn't.

For instance, I believe [personally] that Hurley is ... "kinda" crazy. In other words, he hallucinates when he is frightened or stressed emotionally. In other words, in S4E1, this happens twice - once when he is chased by the police and then interrogated (thereby having a vision of Charlie) and after he is scared at Jacob's house (and turns around seeing Jacob's house again before "making" it disappear - a second vision). I believe the things we are led to believe are visions (Charlie at the end of the episode saying he's dead but he's still there) are actual reality (I have my own theories as to what it really is that is expounded on in other threads).

To sum up:

Hurley sees visions only when he's stressed emotionally or scared. If he is seeing what we are led to believe is a vision when this isn't true, I don't think it's a vision at all.

squire41
02-06-2008, 09:41 PM
Desmonds visions are not perfect, he is able to change the outcome of all so far. Since Charlie knew about the vision, whats to say that he couldn't change it? But I do admit that Hurley is nuts.
Plus has any of Desmond's visions ever been left to unfold naturally without him changing the outcome? The producers are trying to mess with our heads by showing the end of the series in these flashes. There are apparently some who didn't want to leave at the end. Thats why Jack is talking about going back, he still feels there is someone left to save from the island.When he leaves he starts to lose purpose with his life.
I think we are still waiting for a lot of surprises, Claire goes with Locke, but yet Desmond's vision shows her getting on a helicopter.
nothing is as it seems with LOST,

REMEMBER THAT

EbBislost
02-07-2008, 04:42 AM
Me thinks that Charlie and Dave are eating tacos in Hurleys head.

Ezekiel 25:17
02-07-2008, 04:50 AM
Dude, I think the taco thing all the time, only its Abe Lincoln and this fat mechanical Beaver LOL.

Creamsteve
02-07-2008, 05:10 AM
Hes definetly dead. He might be in recent flashbacks to some of the castaways, but I bet he is a vision to one of them probably Claire or Hurley. Hes got a haircut in the preview he looks all cleaned up.

Where do dead people get haircuts? He's not even soaking wet or anything. If I die on a bad hair day and I come back for some reason, I hope I have a sweet hair cut too.

LostLate
12-24-2008, 02:38 AM
Where do dead people get haircuts? He's not even soaking wet or anything. If I die on a bad hair day and I come back for some reason, I hope I have a sweet hair cut too.

LMAO! Maybe in that Beetlejuice waiting room! (The shrunken heads get a discount).

kateisgr8t
12-24-2008, 03:45 PM
I watched the season 5 trailer and there was a part with someone writing on a blackboard. He was wearing a sweatjacket with the hood pulled up and I could have sworn the motions and the profile was charlie's

Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid
12-24-2008, 03:52 PM
Desmonds visions are not perfect, he is able to change the outcome of all so far. Since Charlie knew about the vision, whats to say that he couldn't change it? But I do admit that Hurley is nuts.
Plus has any of Desmond's visions ever been left to unfold naturally without him changing the outcome? The producers are trying to mess with our heads by showing the end of the series in these flashes. There are apparently some who didn't want to leave at the end. Thats why Jack is talking about going back, he still feels there is someone left to save from the island.When he leaves he starts to lose purpose with his life.
I think we are still waiting for a lot of surprises, Claire goes with Locke, but yet Desmond's vision shows her getting on a helicopter.
nothing is as it seems with LOST,

REMEMBER THAT

In the very end, wouldn't it be fitting for Des's flash of Claire getting on the heli with Aaron to all come together at long last? Maybe this will be part of the the course correction...??

gingergrant
12-26-2008, 06:37 PM
I watched the season 5 trailer and there was a part with someone writing on a blackboard. He was wearing a sweatjacket with the hood pulled up and I could have sworn the motions and the profile was charlie's

I know, I saw that too, saved it and tried to figure out who it was. I now think that it was charlie! I can't think of anyone else that is wearing a hoodie.

gingergrant
12-26-2008, 06:42 PM
go here for an image.

http://cescaimages.weebly.com/lost-images.html

notsolost42
12-26-2008, 08:18 PM
I'm not sure that it's a hoody like Charlie wore. I enlarged the picture on paint a bunch and it is very strange. It looks more like a Druid's robe. The hood is very big and the sleeve looks like it could be baggy also. There is something across the shoulder and I can't figure out if it is part of the article of clothing or a strap for a weapon hanging from the shoulder. It is wide, possibly leather looking and may have a decorative pattern cut out on it. As for it being Charlie, well, I couldn't say.
Druid's would actually fit into this show! Druid's practiced in Britian, Ancient Rome, etc. and studied alchemy. Some possibly links. Could they be the ancients of the island?
Great link for the shot Ginger! Thanks!

neo
12-27-2008, 10:49 PM
i think he is dead and alive i cant really explain what i mean but when u see charlie off the island talking to hurley he looks different.. he does not look like charlie from the island....he has nice clothes on looks clean cut he even has a hair cut so why show him with all those new things and not charlie from the island?????