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daniejo
02-08-2008, 03:46 AM
What happened to the kids that were kidnapped from the plane crash...and that one girl who was captured by them when she was with Anna Lucia?? all these things are going thru my head...there are still lot's of people on the island that they don't show anymore.

justme
02-08-2008, 03:56 AM
What happened to the kids that were kidnapped from the plane crash...and that one girl who was captured by them when she was with Anna Lucia?? all these things are going thru my head...there are still lot's of people on the island that they don't show anymore.

The rest of the others went to a different place on teh island or somewhere else we are not sure some where called the temple. They will probally come into play later on in the story

1hourisntlongenough
02-08-2008, 04:10 AM
The rest of the others went to a different place on teh island or somewhere else we are not sure some where called the temple. They will probally come into play later on in the story

Did Richard go with them? For someone who liked to stay pretty close to Ben, he seems to have gone MIA

BriGuy0419
02-08-2008, 04:40 AM
Well first of all... all of the others are actually on a seperate island, if you remember from season 3. Ben and some of them came over to capture the women but then got killed after they planned an ambush and then Hurley saved them with the Van. So all of the others that are left are Ben (on the island with them) and the rest are back on the "other" island, as much as that sounds like a pun. haha

aZiXx
02-08-2008, 06:52 AM
Well first of all... all of the others are actually on a seperate island, if you remember from season 3. Ben and some of them came over to capture the women but then got killed after they planned an ambush and then Hurley saved them with the Van. So all of the others that are left are Ben (on the island with them) and the rest are back on the "other" island, as much as that sounds like a pun. haha

Actually, they are on the same island :)

I think you are getting the impression they are on a different island because of Carl using the canoe thingy to get to the Losties quickly, as compared to going by foot. They are all on the same island, last we knew. Maybe now they moved to the other one... but last we knew, they were on the same wonderful island :)

BriGuy0419
02-08-2008, 12:38 PM
No, I'm 100% sure when they had Jack, Kate, and Sawyer... Kate and Sawyer had to get a canoe so they could get to their other island. Then later on Carl took the canoe to go warn them. So yes, the others that died trying to capture the women and Ben were on the same island at that time. But there are still others on the OTHER island.

Snape
02-08-2008, 01:11 PM
No, I'm 100% sure when they had Jack, Kate, and Sawyer... Kate and Sawyer had to get a canoe so they could get to their other island. Then later on Carl took the canoe to go warn them. So yes, the others that died trying to capture the women and Ben were on the same island at that time. But there are still others on the OTHER island.

Um, sure. That's true. Sawyer and Kate (with Karl) did use a canoe to get to the main island. Then you'll remember that Kate struck out with some others (Sayid, Locke) to get Jack again. Did they take a boat again to save Jack, since he would still have been on the smaller island? No, they went inland.

While it is not shown, the Others returned to the main island which is where their Barracks are located.

We have no reason to believe the Others are on the smaller island. (Note that we have no reason to believe the are on the big island either, but the chances are that they are).

BriGuy0419
02-08-2008, 01:27 PM
Yea I guess... but it depends cuz they LEFT Jack and went elsewhere. I guess im assuming the others aren't on that island because Locke is leading them to the barracks for safety. Unless he is leading them TO the others. But I would think they would have run into some of them with all the commotion and trudging through the jungle. Who knows, i guess they are leaving that part up in the air.

We also still don't know who that short haired lady is that was interrogating Juliet... she seems like she might be important sooner or later. She took orders from Ben but seemed to be more powerful then the rest of the others.

Snape
02-08-2008, 02:59 PM
Yea I guess... but it depends cuz they LEFT Jack and went elsewhere. I guess im assuming the others aren't on that island because Locke is leading them to the barracks for safety. Unless he is leading them TO the others. But I would think they would have run into some of them with all the commotion and trudging through the jungle. Who knows, i guess they are leaving that part up in the air.

We also still don't know who that short haired lady is that was interrogating Juliet... she seems like she might be important sooner or later. She took orders from Ben but seemed to be more powerful then the rest of the others.

You're talking about Isabel - and unfortunately for Isabel the creators confirmed her as dead in an interview last year.

Sorry! I really liked her as a character too - but we will not see her again.

hyperRevue
02-08-2008, 03:19 PM
The barracks are on another island.

Remember when Sawyer was in captivity and Ben "implanted" that thing in his chest then took him up to the top of the mountain? Ben showed Saywer the other island where the losties camp was.

daniejo
02-08-2008, 03:22 PM
The barracks are on another island.

Remember when Sawyer was in captivity and Ben "implanted" that thing in his chest then took him up to the top of the mountain? Ben showed Saywer the other island where the losties camp was.

Ahh...yes. I do remember this. It is starting to make sense to me now. The pp's are right...the rest of the "others" have got to come in to play at some point. Thanks for all the responses!!!

hyperRevue
02-08-2008, 03:27 PM
Ahh...yes. I do remember this. It is starting to make sense to me now. The pp's are right...the rest of the "others" have got to come in to play at some point. Thanks for all the responses!!!

But now I'm trying to remember.

Sawyer and Kate and Jack are captured.

Ben shows Sawyer the other island, so we know the barracks are on a different one.

Then Kate and Sawyer escape and take a canoe to the losties island.

But then when Kate and Sayid and Locke go to rescue Jack, we don't see them cross water to get to them, which doesn't really mean they didn't.

I dunno.

Snape
02-08-2008, 04:03 PM
But now I'm trying to remember.

Sawyer and Kate and Jack are captured.

Ben shows Sawyer the other island, so we know the barracks are on a different one.

Then Kate and Sawyer escape and take a canoe to the losties island.

But then when Kate and Sayid and Locke go to rescue Jack, we don't see them cross water to get to them, which doesn't really mean they didn't.

I dunno.

No no no, the barracks are on the main island - the Hydra station is on the smaller island. They even show the plane breaking up very nearly overhead of the Others camp - remember when they gaze up into the sky and Ben says "There may be survivors - you guys get down there now!"

Main island: Losties camp - Barracks - several DHARMA stations.

Smaller island: Hydra station (where Jack, Kate, and Sawyer were held).

hyperRevue
02-08-2008, 04:06 PM
No no no, the barracks are on the main island - the Hydra station is on the smaller island. They even show the plane breaking up very nearly overhead of the Others camp - remember when they gaze up into the sky and Ben says "There may be survivors - you guys get down there now!"

Main island: Losties camp - Barracks - several DHARMA stations.

Smaller island: Hydra station (where Jack, Kate, and Sawyer were held).

Wait...

The hydra station and the barracks are at the same place.

If Kate and Sawyer escaped from the Hydra station, how would Kate, Sayid and Locke know to go back to resuce Jack at the barracks?

Snape
02-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Wait...

The hydra station and the barracks are at the same place.

If Kate and Sawyer escaped from the Hydra station, how would Kate, Sayid and Locke know to go back to resuce Jack at the barracks?

Barracks - http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_barracks

On the island.

Hydra - http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Hydra

Off the island.

Top of the page on both pages expounds on their locations. There are also maps. That is all.

hyperRevue
02-08-2008, 04:19 PM
Barracks - http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_barracks

On the island.

Hydra - http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Hydra

Off the island.

Top of the page on both pages expounds on their locations. There are also maps. That is all.

Ah, thanks, man.

I was getting confused by Ben's "apartment" at the Hydra station and thinking it was the same as the barracks.

BriGuy0419
02-08-2008, 05:02 PM
Wait a minute... Isabel... ya... they confirmed her dead? What was the cause of death? They just killing people off without showing us how?!

Snape
02-08-2008, 05:06 PM
Wait a minute... Isabel... ya... they confirmed her dead? What was the cause of death? They just killing people off without showing us how?!

Yes, in this case they did. It was an interview after last season was over. Someone asked "So what about Isabel?" and they responded "Isabel, unfortunately, is dead." or something to that effect.

aZiXx
02-08-2008, 06:57 PM
The barracks are on another island.

Remember when Sawyer was in captivity and Ben "implanted" that thing in his chest then took him up to the top of the mountain? Ben showed Saywer the other island where the losties camp was.

I think some people are LOST here :D So I am going to clear some things up.

Jack Kate Sawyer were taken to the smaller island for S3. All that crap happened, then Kate and Sawyer escaped and went back to THE island, the big one. Then Jack and the rest of them then went back to THE island, the big one (remember Jack and Ben on the boat??? He was Ben's caretaker). The barracks are on THE island, the big one. After Kate and them found the barracks on THE island, they gassed the Losties there and left the barracks. Stuff happened... they were going to attack the Losties camp, Carl went by his canoe thingy by water to get there faster than the attackers by foot. Then the attack failed, Ben decided to intercept Jack and them on their way to the tower on THE island, the big one... and he told the others that are with Richard to head for the TEMPLE, which as far as I can tell, is on THE island. It might be on the smaller one, but not really since it is a small island. THE island, the big one, is where all the good stuff is, the statue and whanot, the temple is most likely there.

That sums it up. I think you guys would benefit from watching the whole series again. I did that last week before the S04E01 :) It helps to get a clear picture of what happens.

hyperRevue
02-08-2008, 07:00 PM
I think some people are LOST here :D So I am going to clear some things up.

Jack Kate Sawyer were taken to the smaller island for S3. All that crap happened, then Kate and Sawyer escaped and went back to THE island, the big one. Then Jack and the rest of them then went back to THE island, the big one (remember Jack and Ben on the boat??? He was Ben's caretaker). The barracks are on THE island, the big one. After Kate and them found the barracks on THE island, they gassed the Losties there and left the barracks. Stuff happened... they were going to attack the Losties camp, Carl went by his canoe thingy by water to get there faster than the attackers by foot. Then the attack failed, Ben decided to intercept Jack and them on their way to the tower on THE island, the big one... and he told the others that are with Richard to head for the TEMPLE, which as far as I can tell, is on THE island. It might be on the smaller one, but not really since it is a small island. THE island, the big one, is where all the good stuff is, the statue and whanot, the temple is most likely there.

That sums it up. I think you guys would benefit from watching the whole series again. I did that last week before the S04E01 :) It helps to get a clear picture of what happens.


haha, I've watched the entire series 3 times now. I don't think my brain can take another go 'round.

Smiley
02-08-2008, 07:15 PM
Wait...

The hydra station and the barracks are at the same place.

If Kate and Sawyer escaped from the Hydra station, how would Kate, Sayid and Locke know to go back to resuce Jack at the barracks?

because they found mikhail's map of the island and saw all the electric power going to one that was big enough to support a small community assuming thats where the others live

jack kate and sawyer were on a different island

sawyer and kate canoe back to the main island

jack goes with ben and the others to the barracks on the main island to take care of ben

kate locke and sayid go to get jack

the others gas everyone and leave the baracks and take locke to go somewhere else on the island

lockes taking everyone to the now empty barracks on the main island

the others are somewhere else...including the people they kidnapped( and still probably more others on the hydrastation on the other island)

thelawgiver
02-08-2008, 07:54 PM
Did'nt we see the temple in S3 when Ben tied Locke's father to a pillar for Locke to kill?

Sandra
02-08-2008, 08:00 PM
here's a little theroy i have. when miles call back to the freighter and asks to speak to that guy (can't remember his name) and the woman he speaks to sounds all flustered and says he's not there or can't come to the phone right then, well I think some of the others made it to the freighter and have taken them or him hostage cause Ben said they have someone from the boat and Ben always has a back up plan. I can just picture one of the others holding a gun to that woman (on the phone) and telling her what to say... what do you think

Sandra
02-08-2008, 08:04 PM
the others are dead

Dzbabykel
02-08-2008, 08:07 PM
I haven't really read ALL the theories of where the Others are (haha sorry there are SOO many posts since last night I feel like I'll never catch up!!) but I personally think that the Others are in hiding, like someone had said probably on the island with the Hydra station. I'm sure in the next few episodes we'll find out, remember the previews mentioned something about a war between them so perhaps the Others will come out of the woodwork to help Ben?? Should be interesting!!

lostfan
02-08-2008, 08:54 PM
Wait a minute... Isabel... ya... they confirmed her dead? What was the cause of death? They just killing people off without showing us how?!

Actually in one of the commentaries of the Season 3 DVD the writers say Isabel is supposed to have died when Sayid, Bernard, and Jin shoot and blow up the tents on the beach. But they don't show Isabel at all during that time. So that was kind of a dumb way to kill her off.

hollie425
02-08-2008, 08:56 PM
everyone went to the temple!! remember, ben told them to go to the temple to wait!!! by the way i wonder where nd wat the temple is nd looks like??

Dzbabykel
02-08-2008, 08:59 PM
Good point Hollie :)

hollie425
02-08-2008, 09:00 PM
The barracks are on another island.

Remember when Sawyer was in captivity and Ben "implanted" that thing in his chest then took him up to the top of the mountain? Ben showed Saywer the other island where the losties camp was.

are you daft???? the baroks are on the main island... kate locke nd saayid didnt need a boat to get to jack, the baroks are on the other side of the island

hollie425
02-08-2008, 09:02 PM
I think some people are LOST here :D So I am going to clear some things up.

Jack Kate Sawyer were taken to the smaller island for S3. All that crap happened, then Kate and Sawyer escaped and went back to THE island, the big one. Then Jack and the rest of them then went back to THE island, the big one (remember Jack and Ben on the boat??? He was Ben's caretaker). The barracks are on THE island, the big one. After Kate and them found the barracks on THE island, they gassed the Losties there and left the barracks. Stuff happened... they were going to attack the Losties camp, Carl went by his canoe thingy by water to get there faster than the attackers by foot. Then the attack failed, Ben decided to intercept Jack and them on their way to the tower on THE island, the big one... and he told the others that are with Richard to head for the TEMPLE, which as far as I can tell, is on THE island. It might be on the smaller one, but not really since it is a small island. THE island, the big one, is where all the good stuff is, the statue and whanot, the temple is most likely there.

That sums it up. I think you guys would benefit from watching the whole series again. I did that last week before the S04E01 :) It helps to get a clear picture of what happens.


hahaah exactly what i was thinking!!

bunnydixon
02-08-2008, 09:08 PM
yeah, thought they were on their way to the temple - wonder when we will catch up with them though.

hollie425
02-08-2008, 09:09 PM
i kno i think the temple sounds quite interessant!!

bunnydixon
02-08-2008, 09:12 PM
yes - where is it and what happens there......

hollie425
02-08-2008, 09:18 PM
ha ha, my thoughts exactly!! wonder if its where they worship!!

Dzbabykel
02-08-2008, 09:29 PM
Hahah yah, their 4-toed God! :p

hollie425
02-08-2008, 09:35 PM
oh my god, yess!!

chris12345
02-08-2008, 09:47 PM
I think that there is no smaller island. I think Ben just wanted sawer to think that he was on another island. Otherwise how did the polar bears from the other island get to the main island?

hollie425
02-08-2008, 09:48 PM
see ive wondered that before, but kate nd sawyer di take a canoe back to their island, nd sawyer saw their island.. soo idk..

Dzbabykel
02-08-2008, 09:49 PM
No there is, we watched Kate, Sawyer and Carl leave the island in a boat towards the other island.

bunnydixon
02-08-2008, 09:51 PM
and like someone mentioned - we saw a second island.

unless its all a mirage - but then there is the canoe.

chris12345
02-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Just becase they took a boat doesnt mean they cane from a different island. The island could be shaped in a way that it could look like two islands

john
02-08-2008, 09:53 PM
i thank ther are two islands

hollie425
02-08-2008, 09:54 PM
well ok. u belelive that, nd im actually going to not think so much into the whole two island thing..

daniejo
02-09-2008, 01:23 AM
I am much clearer on all this now. I am going to watch the first 3 seasons this weekend...I have some brushing up to do, lol!!

SLForney
02-09-2008, 02:10 AM
What happened to the kids that were kidnapped from the plane crash...and that one girl who was captured by them when she was with Anna Lucia?? all these things are going thru my head...there are still lot's of people on the island that they don't show anymore.
You see the kids a couple times with "The Others", in fact I think Cindy, the girl who was kidnapped while with Ana Lucia is the one still taking care of them. She is the girl that tells Locke, that they have been waiting for him because he is special.

SLForney
02-09-2008, 02:18 AM
The barracks are on another island.

Remember when Sawyer was in captivity and Ben "implanted" that thing in his chest then took him up to the top of the mountain? Ben showed Saywer the other island where the losties camp was.
Not sure if you are referring to the houses as barracks, cause those are on the same island that the plane crashed at. The tents and stuff were on the other island and the cages where they kepts Sawyer, kate and jack. The others actually live on the same island as the Losties. Right? I don't think they left the island either. The canoe was left there and Carl left on foot after being let go. And now he is hiding, probably close to the canoe. My thoughts!

SLForney
02-09-2008, 02:23 AM
But now I'm trying to remember.

Sawyer and Kate and Jack are captured.

Ben shows Sawyer the other island, so we know the barracks are on a different one.

Then Kate and Sawyer escape and take a canoe to the losties island.

But then when Kate and Sayid and Locke go to rescue Jack, we don't see them cross water to get to them, which doesn't really mean they didn't.

I dunno.
Thats because Carl tells them that they actually live on the same island as they do and that other place was something else, remember. And when they do find Jack, they are outside playing football in the yard in the middle of the "houses".

SLForney
02-09-2008, 02:27 AM
the others are dead
The others are not dead, they are in the camp they set up waiting for Ben to return cause he said he was going alone and only taking Alex.

SLForney
02-09-2008, 02:30 AM
I think that there is no smaller island. I think Ben just wanted sawer to think that he was on another island. Otherwise how did the polar bears from the other island get to the main island?
They are on another island cause I don't think Sawyer and Kate just paddled their way to the big island, just cause!