Miles and the picture boy

[navyguy]

Ok. I have read somewhere that Miles is actually a time shifter and not a ghost whisperer. I have to watch it again and figure it out for myself, but at first glance i thought he was just a con-man until i noticed the picture thing.

As for the boy in the picture EVERYBODY is making something of "who is it". Let me propose this. Maybe that scene was merely just to show the change in the frame. Maybe the child in the picture isn't significant at all outside of showing the change. I bring this up because so many people make so much of some little things and they turn out to be nothing, hence the dog painting in Jacob's cabin, which is just merely the set dog.

I could be wrong, maybe the kid does have significance, but maybe not as well.

[bunnydixon]

that is correct - the frames do change and i think thats why we saw the pics twice. the importance is not who is in the pic but what has happened to the pic.

never believed it was yemi, ecko or walt anyhoo!

[HurleysMillions]

what do u mean by "change in the frame"?

[navyguy]

what do u mean by "change in the frame"?

The frames changed from wooden frames to like plastic or some synthetic type material

[banginailz]

its obvious that the room belonged to a drug dealer and he was mudered. did he leave the money or the drugs? the time shifting thing "hmmm". maybe. the way his hand twitched. i think the boy was echo but that dosnt exactly mean he lived there. it can be a relitive of theres that had drugs deliverd.

[navyguy]

its obvious that the room belonged to a drug dealer and he was mudered. did he leave the money or the drugs? the time shifting thing "hmmm". maybe. the way his hand twitched. i think the boy was echo but that dosnt exactly mean he lived there. it can be a relitive of theres that had drugs deliverd.

My whole point here man is to say I don't think the person in the photo is significant at all, just the frames.

[banginailz]

ok reveiw this:when the black lady gives him a hug she says thank you she also says something else but i cant make it out.check it out. sounds like kreekoo.????????

[banginailz]

why 11 am ? also baseball trophy. table is made from baseball bats for legs. and closet clothes are of an older man.

[Turnip Queen]

The fact that the frames changed was really significant, but I wouldn't give up on the picture not being important yet!

[bunnydixon]

why 11 am ? also baseball trophy. table is made from baseball bats for legs. and closet clothes are of an older man.


i am not sure i am following you on this stuff?:confused:

[Dzbabykel]

Oh wow!!! I didn't even notice that....GREAT point on time shifter, especially with all this time travel talk that could make a lot of sense. I like it!

[Robo42]

late to the dance as usual. I really like this thread. GO NAVY! I trust you guys , But still need to see it again for myself.

[navyguy]

Yea i watched it again and i noticed the camera going by the clock a couple times. I couldn't tell if the time changed cuz i watched it on ABC.com and the screen shrinks on the pause. Can somebody verify if it changes or not for me? But aside from that, notice he goes through like almost seizure type behavior, like his body was being transported somewhere, or the room around him somehow altering. I wouldn't come to that sort of an assumption with a ghost whisperer.

[banginailz]

just basic questions??? the room is mostly football stuff
if you have it taped listen to what the black lady says after she says thank you within that hug she gives miles.kinda weird like it was placed there.

[banginailz]

no it dosnt i have it taped on dvr and can do close ups

[navyguy]

no it dosnt i have it taped on dvr and can do close ups

are you referring to the clock?

[the chimp]

does anyone think that the room belongs to walt? maybe an older walt? could be why the frames go from older looking to more modern. is it maybe possible that miles somehow has a connection (or finds one) and that is why he wants to kill ben - possibly to avenge michael? probably out of whack, but throwing it out there.

[Robo42]

Chimp, Thank you. i think you and me are the only ttwo who agree on this. We may be wrong, but I don't know why most are quick to dismiss this.

[navyguy]

Chimp, Thank you. i think you and me are the only ttwo who agree on this. We may be wrong, but I don't know why most are quick to dismiss this.

Like i said I could be wrong. BUT the thing is SOOOO many things on the show have been looked so deep into and it turns out to be nothing. We know there was a purpose to the photos but it doesn't necessarily have to be the content of the photo itself.

[Roadglider1]

Like i said I could be wrong. BUT the thing is SOOOO many things on the show have been looked so deep into and it turns out to be nothing. We know there was a purpose to the photos but it doesn't necessarily have to be the content of the photo itself.

i would agree with that considering, in one way or another, it seems everbody on the island is connected. kinda of like a six degrees of seperation thing

[didgit]

the weird thing is that ONLY the frame changes, I kept watching the episode over and over again looking for changes in the bedroom etc but everything else seems exactly the same, now if Miles has travelled in time which made the frame change then surely other things would have changed as well ! very odd

[Barbecue_Bod]

Not only has the frame changed on the picture of the boy, but the other pictures hung up around it have changed - not just the frames but the pictures themselves.

The picture of the boy not only is in a new frame but also it is a closer shot. The image is cropped tighter but definitely bigger if you compare his head size to the first picture when Miles walks in. You can tell the size difference in images by using the wood paneled wall behind the picture to give an indicator in the space it fills.

I also think it very significant that there is a leaflet pinned to the notice board near the kitchen. The leaflet is an advert for Photo Restoration. A clue of some sort perhaps?

[banginailz]

yes the minuets and seconds do not change

[didgit]

has anyone got any good screenshots illustrating the pictures changing please ?

[Robo42]

First off, Nailz, I know you are a good man by the car you drive. I am jealous My dream is the 1969. I can't tell from your avatar, what year is that?
B_Bod, you should be working for CSI!. Great stuff. I admit I am much lazier than you guys, which is why I come here. Thanks
I like where you are going with this. But to clarify, I would not stake alot of cash on it being Walt, It just seems it's still a possibility not to be dismissed right off. Even if not Walt, I still feel there is a connection, as well as the woman they don't show in Daniel's scene.

[Barbecue_Bod]

did someone mention the whisper/word the woman says to Miles as well when she hugs him? There is defo something in that> I can't make it out what she says but its gotta be something relevant!

Another thing I noticed is that when Miles arrives in the car - I think his digital clock in the car either says 12.12 or 2.12 so that's quite different to the 11.00 on the clock in the bedroom and on Miles watch the time is 11.00 you can see that when he picks up the money and srugs from the hiding place behind the cupboard.

So, when Miles comes out of the room and the pictures have changed, has he somehow altered the passage of time in that everything represented in those photos has not happened and thus diffeent ones are hanging up to represent the different events? Or, has he actuallybeen in that room so long that while hes been up there the Grandma downstairs has in the meantime had the photos restored and replaced the frames and hung up some new ones? That doesnt quite figure but Im sort of typing out loud.

Why does Miles take the money and not the drugs?
Why does this short episode seemingly change so much with regards to the pictures?
Why does the 'spirit' of the murdered boy need Miles permission/expertise to leave his Grandma alone???? I dont get that bit at all? I don't see how from Miles saying 'tell me where its is', and the spirit giving him a sign to the hididng place, how then that should 'release' the boy? Does it matter? Or am I barking up the wrong tree so to speak?

[hunter8768]

Hey, I may be barking up the wrong tree too but did anyone notice if the grandmother's clothes changed. The pictures did, why not her clothes too? Im ean, if some amount of time passes, would it be to much to think that it could be a different day or that when the frames changed, maybe if had an effect on other things too. Are the pictures the only things that change or does something else that we haven't noticed yet.

If nothing else changed, why?

[polarsawyer]

I was just looking at screen caps from when he was in the room. The shot where he was putting his "special vacuum" on the desk, you see a sticker that says "unleash the beast" and a poster with the number 15. Now, seeing as I believe nothing is a coincidence on this show anymore, that seems like it might point us somewhere on figuring out who this boy is. I don't think it is walt, or mr ecko, but I think there is a relationship there with someone on the island. I think the drugs may tie into the the herion Ecko was moving. Maybe this boy was killed by someone we already know.

[Barbecue_Bod]

no it appears that nothing else has changed. The Grandma is wearing the same clothes. Whatever she whispers in his ear is interesting. I'm trying to figure that one out.

[Robo42]

Did you notice if grandma had an accent similar to Eckos? I'm trying to clear up the: picture has no connection vs Yemi or Ecko vs Walt or Michael.

[bunnydixon]

i still dont think it is any of them but i could well be wrong!

[Barbecue_Bod]

no she sounds very American to me.

[Barbecue_Bod]

The word she is whispering to MIles is something like: Kreegan or Keregan or Keregon - Hmm??

[snow24]

first, this is my first post but I've really been enjoying reading the boards.

But what if Miles isn't a time traveler, but rather really a ghost whisperer. This could also explain the picture frames.

The older woman obviously knows there is a presence in the house, thats why she called him, and Miles knew when he walked in it was going to be a powerful one, he asked for more cash.

Now how did he know, I think that the boys ghost was making time freeze in the house to the time of his death. Hence the difference in time on the clock, and older frames. When Miles gets the boy to leave, his power on the house is broken, brining it to the present time, updating the pictures and frames the mom had set up.

I just think if Miles could jump time, he would know the truth about Naomi, and he wouldn't actually have to go to her body. I think he had to go to her body to see her ghost.

[Dzbabykel]

Haha now I'm reeeeally confused :confused: :p

[Barbecue_Bod]

yes i suppose thats plausible.

[banginailz]

Yes its a 64 1/2. Everything original. oboy shes got echos eyes. Big and round.