Charlotte and the bear (lol sounds like a kids book lol)

[navyguy]

I was watching Charlotte's sequence again and i noticed a couple things. These points have probably been posted already but I'm lazy.

The dialogue when charlotte was looking at the paper makes me think that she either (a) new somebody on the flight or (b) is connected to oceanic in some way.

When she got to the polar bear i noticed her body language and the expression on her face, and she took that pick and just started going at it like she knew EXACTLY what to look for.

[Dzbabykel]

Oh yah I DEF agree with you, Charlotte didn't seem surprised at all it was a polar bear...mostly she seemed like her suspicions were confirmed almost...like she went there EXPECTING to find something like that. She even dug further to look for the dharma collar. I think its safe to assume she might be linked with someone from the Dharma Initiative or perhaps since she's an archaeologist, she's already found something similar to the polar bear elsewhere. Maybe she's been following this for awhile and thats why she was so excited to land on the island?

[Robo42]

I agree. the same with frank and and Dan, and little with Miles. It seemed they all new immediately and the light bulb went off. At one time I thought these were plants to peak the curiosity of the newbies to get them on board with the insertion. But having read everyones posts, I think this was their destinies or second chances.

[Dzbabykel]

Yah thats a good way to look at it.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Yeah goldie locks didn't seem suprised at all when she found that polar bear, in the desert. LOL, I personally believe this is a flash forward to after Charlotte, Jack kate hurley and whoever else get off the island. Which means that in a few seasons from now we will be seeing much more of LA and whereever else, than we think.

[lostNspace]

I got to agree with the flash forward part. It could be an old newspaper.

[Meditate]

Yeah, wrap your heads around this... What if when the "sky turned purple" and all communication was lost... the world changed somehow... and those flash forwards you're talking about are in fact true with the story headed in that direction. That would be a cool twist

[Barbecue_Bod]

Charlotte must know there is some mystery or strange goings on with Flight 815 because when she looks at the newspaper her colleague says 'How many languages (ie how many times and in how many newspaers) do you have to read before you believe it;? and Charlotte says 'how many languages are their?' as if to imply that the news had been released and she just does not believe it. Whether that means does she believe theyve found the plane itself or the plane and eveyone dead is not obvious. But I would say that this is a flashback we are seeing to before Charlotte and the others 3 were sent to the island with Naomi.

[tdf192]

what if the producers have mixed in flash forwards and flash backs. with charlotte's being a flash forward

[bunnydixon]

she definitely knew what she was looking for and knew whereabout the collar would be so she has either had dealings with such a find before or was aware of dharma

[Dzbabykel]

what if the producers have mixed in flash forwards and flash backs. with charlotte's being a flash forward

Wouldn't that be an interesting twist?? :)

[ortrules]

My Charlotte theory:

Charlotte is an archaelogist who has discovered the Dharma initiative and what they were trying to do. She has been tracking the Dharma project all over the world, which is why she knew to find the Dharma artifact near the polar bear and why she doesn't want to leave the island. It also explains why Charlotte was a good pick to go on this mission to the island. Ben was fearful of these people landing on the island because he knows that one of them is familiar with the qualities of the island, meaning that Ben is no longer the only one.

I believe that the island is only one of many Dharma initiatives - but is the only one that seemed to promise results. I am under the belief that Dharma has initiatives in all climate areas (as seen with the current island and the desert discovery) hoping the climate would impact the solution to the numbers. One question that has always been on my mind, is how did the "crazy" guy that repeated the numbers over and over get those numbers to begin with? My theory is he was part of the Dharma initiative in the desert, where Charlotte found the bear and artifact, and that trying to find a solution to the numbers drove him mad. This also fits with Hurley having to go to a remote area of Australia to try to get answers to the numbers.

[shawntx01]

they talk about how he got the numbers, thats why hurley went to sydney.

[shawntx01]

he was in the navy doing some mission in the middle of the ocean where they listened for transmissions or something, one night they picked up the transmission of the numbers repeating.

[ecw0930]

Charlotte knows something about Dharma. Tha's obvious...the rest is speculation... and theories. some good, some bad.... i don't think she has had experience with Dharma, but she knows enough that she was picked for this mission for her "expertise".

Also, the producers and writers don't mix in flashbacks and flash forwards..... it's either one or the other. That was a flashback of Charlotte, because we were learning the back stories for each character

[PolaBear]

I agree with you. They wouldnt mix flashbacks w/ forwards, it would be too confusing.

[mahalo_dude]

I gotta agree with the idea that this was a flashback. The part regarding the newspaper headline is too obvious to think otherwise. The flashback was Charlotte's; we saw the other three, too. I don't believe the folks behind the show would mix flashbacks and flashforwards within one episode. She is likely the most knowledgeable about Dharma, Hanso, the island, and Ben out of the four Boaties.

[lostNspace]

My Charlotte theory:

Charlotte is an archaelogist who has discovered the Dharma initiative and what they were trying to do. She has been tracking the Dharma project all over the world, which is why she knew to find the Dharma artifact near the polar bear and why she doesn't want to leave the island. It also explains why Charlotte was a good pick to go on this mission to the island. Ben was fearful of these people landing on the island because he knows that one of them is familiar with the qualities of the island, meaning that Ben is no longer the only one.

I believe that the island is only one of many Dharma initiatives - but is the only one that seemed to promise results. I am under the belief that Dharma has initiatives in all climate areas (as seen with the current island and the desert discovery) hoping the climate would impact the solution to the numbers. One question that has always been on my mind, is how did the "crazy" guy that repeated the numbers over and over get those numbers to begin with? My theory is he was part of the Dharma initiative in the desert, where Charlotte found the bear and artifact, and that trying to find a solution to the numbers drove him mad. This also fits with Hurley having to go to a remote area of Australia to try to get answers to the numbers.

I like that last last part. Hurley did get the numbers from the guy he was playing Connect 4 with in the institution. Where did that guy get them from?
What threw me off early on was the fact Charlotte was an Anthropologist no an Archaeologist. Anthropologist examine, analyze, report on, and compare different cultures (ie. people). In that scene she looked more like an Archaeologist.

[islander]

I agree. the same with frank and and Dan, and little with Miles. It seemed they all new immediately and the light bulb went off. At one time I thought these were plants to peak the curiosity of the newbies to get them on board with the insertion. But having read everyones posts, I think this was their destinies or second chances.

I agree. Daniel cried, and Frank called Oceanic when they heard the news. Since Frank called Oceanic to only discuss the question of the pilot, I've felt that he (and most likely Miles, Charlotte and Daniel) all knew 815 was 'found' before they went to the island. Makes you wonder why they haven't told the survivors that there's a conspiracy a foot - probably not good for the survivors.

[ecw0930]

I gotta agree with the idea that this was a flashback. The part regarding the newspaper headline is too obvious to think otherwise. The flashback was Charlotte's; we saw the other three, too. I don't believe the folks behind the show would mix flashbacks and flashforwards within one episode. She is likely the most knowledgeable about Dharma, Hanso, the island, and Ben out of the four Boaties.

I dont think so.

I think she is the most knowledgable about Dharma. I think Miles is probably the most knowledgable about Ben. Case in point when he wants to go find the other Losties and he knows of Ben. Isn't he the one that shows the picture of Ben?

I think the pilot is the most knowledgable about the Losties. Farraday is probably the most knowledable about the island, whether he realizes it or not.

ALL of them were picked for SPECIFIC reasons. (black lawyer man says that to naomi). ALL of them have their reasons, and that kind of make each one just as equally important as the next.

[Dzbabykel]

Yah and remember even Naomi was shocked Abaddon picked those particular 4. So they are definitely there for a specific purpose.

[Dharma Initiate 815]

I definetly do not think that this will be the last that we see of Naomi's story. But I agree that everyone was probably picked for their own specialties. And it seems to me that Charlotte definetly has been hunting down the Dharma Initiative all over the world.

[mahalo_dude]

I dont think so.

I think she is the most knowledgable about Dharma. I think Miles is probably the most knowledgable about Ben. Case in point when he wants to go find the other Losties and he knows of Ben. Isn't he the one that shows the picture of Ben?

I think the pilot is the most knowledgable about the Losties. Farraday is probably the most knowledable about the island, whether he realizes it or not.

ALL of them were picked for SPECIFIC reasons. (black lawyer man says that to naomi). ALL of them have their reasons, and that kind of make each one just as equally important as the next.

Well, of course they were picked for specific reasons. But what I meant to imply was that she is probably the the most informed on all those particular areas combined.

Anyhoo, do you think it was a flashback or flashforward?

[ortrules]

he was in the navy doing some mission in the middle of the ocean where they listened for transmissions or something, one night they picked up the transmission of the numbers repeating.

Yes, that's what they said. But I find it odd that someone was able to pick up on this transmission from the island and yet Rousseau's message went unheard for 16 years. And I realize they were jamming communications and all that - but I don't buy that this guy went crazy just because he heard those numbers when he was in the navy.

Seems to me like the numbers would only drive someone crazy if they directly affected you...not just because you overheard them. And I know my memory is a little hazy, but didn't we find out about this "navy overhears the signal" story from the lady in Australia? She could be Dharma covering things up...and again, my memory of those episodes isn't great, so I could be totally off base here.

[UnknownPoster]

SO do you suppose Charlotte was specifically looking for that bear all over the world or just that she heard through the grapevine about the bear bones and immediately knew what they were?

She had obviously traveling around, either looking for the bear or all kinds of other suff
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[ortrules]

SO do you suppose Charlotte was specifically looking for that bear all over the world or just that she heard through the grapevine about the bear bones and immediately knew what they were?

She had obviously traveling around, either looking for the bear or all kinds of other suff

I don't think she was specifically looking for the bear all over the world, but instead she heard about the bear and immediately went. Because when she got there, she was awfully quick to dig a little deeper to find that Dharma artifact. She definitely knew it would be there once she saw the bear skeleton.

And how else would she know to look deeper if she wasn't familiar with that kind of sighting? For most people it would be a total shock to find polar bear remains in the desert, but she wasn't shocked, she knew.

[bunnydixon]

well she is an anthropologist so i dont know if she is just hunting dharma down in general or looking at specific things from dharma - such as skeletal remains, be they polar bear or anything else.

[mahalo_dude]

Yeah, we will find out soon enough.

[Dharma Initiate 815]

I am think that it was a flashback. Or atleast that is what I assumed. I guess I could have been wrong.
And I thought it was weird how she immediatly knew what she was looking for...definetly not the first time she had seen a bear like that in a weird place.