Desmond

[TuesdaySmith]

I'm watching S3 again, and I recently watched the episode where Desmond wakes up in his apartment with Penny..

He sees his flashes, which happen in what would technically be the future, but he is remembering them as if they were in the past.

When he's back on the island, he also remembers things that happen in the future, but what would be the past.

What the hell? He remembers the future as if it were the past, but it's happening in the present.

This is both important and really annoying because I don't understand it yet.

Discuss...

[Robo42]

Totally agree Tues. This is prob why I can't even begin to understand all the time theories. There have been really good posts over the past few days, but not down to my level. There are some great writers here and you know who you are. Is it possible you can concisely summarize the time theory to me . Thanks

[Barbecue_Bod]

yeah the problem with time travel i find is that when you try and think about it it just ties you in knots, rather like LOST does actually.
I'm thinking more like parallel universes for LOST, or also, anoth theory I thought about recently (but not very deeply because Im far too lazy) is one of Yin and Yang. There seems to be lots of references to yin yang in LOST.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang

but anyway, those epsiodes with Des last series were some of the best ever imho. Mind blowing stuff. Destiny, and people along his path who were even guidinghim towards it. He could not change it. He was 'meant' to end up on the island punching in those numbers! ..perhaps..Argggh head hurting..must do something else...cup of tea.

[bunnydixon]

its a great episode but is a little confusing. maybe the flashes he has are more of a deja vu kinds thing if he has travelled back. maybe his being on the island is lost in his subconcious and thats why he sees them as flashes/deja vu etc...

[Archangel-Player]

I belive the term "Flash before your eyes" saids it all here. Desmond's FATE is being revealed to him in this episode. Usualy when one expeirances a life threatning event the events that flash before their eyes are images of sadden moments as in the things that could have been great had you whent another way about them. Desmond realizes that he should have listen to Penny andnot wasted time with listning to his pride which in the end coast him every thing dear to him. Then Lady FATE steps in. She reveals to Desmond that he is still a great man. that he still has work to do. Maybe not in thoese terms "You have work to do" as the other survivers witnessed. But the same message is being stressed. Desmond belives he can change his past again FATE comes down on him and he wakes up on the island. It seems FATE has spoken to Desmond. No matter what he dose it's just not menat for Penny and him to be together. But! when and if Desmond completes his destniey. Will he finaly get the happey ending he longed urned for? That is a story LOST will have to show us.

[Robo42]

Well put Arch.

[Dzbabykel]

Ok so I had posted this theory on here before but I'm going to go ahead and repost it here to see what anyone thinks since it goes along with Desmond. Like I said, just a theory so don't rip me apart too much haha :p

I think that we've already been presented with possibility of a time travel station (the Orchid Station) and that this station could possibly be hidden where the Swan Station is, you know where they had to push that stupid button. I find it interesting that when they let the button go, all the metal in the room started going straight to the center (this could explain the strong electromagnetism of that particular area) and not to mention where the fail safe key was. I think that the location of where that fail safe key was is the section on the island where the Casimir effect is the strongest. Remember (and correct me if I'm wrong) but its basically 2 strong forces pushing against each other and what is created between those 2 forces creates something like a wormhole or something (I'm in no way a physist by any means so haha this is hard to explain.)

I go on to say that isn't it interesting that this is the exact place where Desmond, after turning the key, "woke up" in what we thought was a flashback, yet he remembered everything about the island and his experiences. When I saw this I had just assumed it was a dream, but when I started thinking about it, Desmond may have fallen through this wormhole (or whatever it is) accidentally and went back in time. I have no explanation for how he got back or anything haha so I'm still quite confused, but when he returned (or woke up rather) he had no recollection of turning the key and he was naked (ow ow!) for some reason. As we all know, he has visions of the future as well.

As for the polar bear, I think it sort of has to do with what happened to Desmond. I mean we saw that the Dharma people were experimenting with rabbits, maybe they were also experimenting with larger animals such as polar bears?? I know its a stretch but perhaps it was an experiment gone wrong?

Now just to say one more thing, to agree with another post I had read about someone who said this exact thing...remember the Valenzetti equation (the numbers) well I believe its the equation for when the end of the world will occur (or something..like I said I'm just typing this from memory and I'm no scientist lol) so I think that maybe The Dharma Initative's purpose was trying to stop that from happening so if they discovered a time travel dimension they could possibly go back in time (or future) and try to correct things from happening so they could extend life longer. Now remember the woman Desmond spoke to kept reitterating that you can't alter the past or it could be catastrophic. I think that has a lot of importance.

All this to say, I have sooo much more that I'm thinking and I'm not going to bore you but my ultimate theory is that Ben KNOWS about this and is the ONLY one who knows other than possibly Richard or maybe the Losties which could be why the Purge happened. That's why in all the orientation videos they've cut out certain things which in my opinion could be anything that verbally referred to a time travel dimension so that no one would find out? This is why the Freighter ppl were recruited to get Ben so that they could find out what's been going on. The drops probably kept continuing because no one knew really about the Dharma people and Ben hid the fact of everything.

Also, my last little tid bit is that perhaps (if we go with this theory) when Jack and Hurley in the flashforwards refer to "going back" we naturally assume they are talking about going back to the island. Well that could be, but maaaaybe if we think outside the box, they're talking about going back in time? Remember Locke keeps saying "this isn't supposed to happen" so maybe they realize they need to change something? Ok I've written way too much and I doubt anyone will actually read this so I'll stop. Haha just my rambling 2 cents :)

[Turnip Queen]

'Flashes before your eyes' is my favourite episode! I think it's so eerie when the old woman won't sell him the ring, and the scene in the pub when he realises he got the wrong night when he was trying to prove to his friend the previous night about what was going to happen.
I don't fully understand it, but I love it, and I'm wondering will he see more flashes this season. I hope so. I love the whole Mc Clutcheon whiskey thing too, coming into a lot of scenes!

[bunnydixon]

i always find that ep really sad :(

[Dzbabykel]

Was that the season 3 premiere episode??

[bunnydixon]

no - the one after the hatch explodes and he goes back to england for a bit...

[Turnip Queen]

No, it was about 4 episodes in, I think! I think 'Greatest hits' is the saddest!

[Dzbabykel]

Oh ok, man for some reason I felt like they pressed that button throughout the entire second season haha....I'll have to go back and watch (I know I keep saying that lol but never do)

[thelawgiver]

The last scene in the last episode of LOST will explain it all. The camera moves slowly from the bedroom into a bathroom where we hear the shower running. It moves towards the shower curtain. The curtain is pulled aside and there we see Bobby Ewing, alive and well.