beachblinkette
11-26-2008, 09:52 PM
Is this why Locke had to pass the test required by Ben, Jacob, and and the Others---to kill his father? According to Richard Bucke who developed this theory, "the experience comes suddenly,.. a clear conception in outline is presented to the mind of the MEANING and DRIFT of the UNIVERSE." The person is filled with ecstasy and moral and intellectual illumination which comes with a sense of immortality. Like Locke's looking into the eye of the island and what he saw was beautiful...? That particular Locke was the most blissful Locke I have seen.
When a person has this happen to them "they no longer fear death which haunts so many men and women at times all their lives, and it falls off like an old cloke ( the word LOCKE scrambled?), not however as a result of reasoning---it simply vanishes. The person doesn't escape from sin but he no longer sees that there is any sin in the world from which to escape."
Is this why Locke had to kill his father? This might prove that his inability to do it showed he hadn't attained the third highest level of consciousness required to lead the Others and to be Jacob's servant. But then he had Sawyer do it. So maybe he did attain it?
Bucke lists only a dozen people in the world who he believed had attained this highest level of consciousness: Paul, Plotinus, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Dante, Las Casas, Whitman, Francis Bacon, Blake, Jon Ypes, Balzac, Jacob Behmen and Bucke himself (of course!!!).
The most interesting thing about this CC experience is that it transfigures or changes the individual: "A change takes place in the appearance of the subject of illumination. This change is similar to that caused in a person's appearance by GREAT JOY and can even cause them to feel they have been changed into a God." Dante felt he'd been "transhumanized into a God."
Think about Walt, then Claire, Christian, Aaron and the Shepherd bloodline here:
"Should we hear of Cosmic Consciousness occurring at the age of twenty, for instance, we should at first doubt the truth of the account, and if forced to believe it, we should expect the man (or woman?) if he lived, to prove himself in some way a veritable spiritual giant." Remember that crazy look on Claire's face in the cabin with Christian? They did look joyful and illuminated, I think. And Christian was very zoom gobby gobby when he told Michael he could go now. Does this enlightenment theory include Ben?
So this is a theory looking at mystical experience from the point of view of psychology dating from the early 1900's. (and a Link to Santa Rosa facility?) Bucke was 100 years ahead of his time. He also believed that all men would evolve into these cosmic consciousness beings in some far distant future. He is, interestingly enough, "a descendant of Sir Richard Walpole, who was superintendent of an Asylum for the Insane."
When a person has this happen to them "they no longer fear death which haunts so many men and women at times all their lives, and it falls off like an old cloke ( the word LOCKE scrambled?), not however as a result of reasoning---it simply vanishes. The person doesn't escape from sin but he no longer sees that there is any sin in the world from which to escape."
Is this why Locke had to kill his father? This might prove that his inability to do it showed he hadn't attained the third highest level of consciousness required to lead the Others and to be Jacob's servant. But then he had Sawyer do it. So maybe he did attain it?
Bucke lists only a dozen people in the world who he believed had attained this highest level of consciousness: Paul, Plotinus, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Dante, Las Casas, Whitman, Francis Bacon, Blake, Jon Ypes, Balzac, Jacob Behmen and Bucke himself (of course!!!).
The most interesting thing about this CC experience is that it transfigures or changes the individual: "A change takes place in the appearance of the subject of illumination. This change is similar to that caused in a person's appearance by GREAT JOY and can even cause them to feel they have been changed into a God." Dante felt he'd been "transhumanized into a God."
Think about Walt, then Claire, Christian, Aaron and the Shepherd bloodline here:
"Should we hear of Cosmic Consciousness occurring at the age of twenty, for instance, we should at first doubt the truth of the account, and if forced to believe it, we should expect the man (or woman?) if he lived, to prove himself in some way a veritable spiritual giant." Remember that crazy look on Claire's face in the cabin with Christian? They did look joyful and illuminated, I think. And Christian was very zoom gobby gobby when he told Michael he could go now. Does this enlightenment theory include Ben?
So this is a theory looking at mystical experience from the point of view of psychology dating from the early 1900's. (and a Link to Santa Rosa facility?) Bucke was 100 years ahead of his time. He also believed that all men would evolve into these cosmic consciousness beings in some far distant future. He is, interestingly enough, "a descendant of Sir Richard Walpole, who was superintendent of an Asylum for the Insane."