What is your favorite Ben manipulation? [Archive]

persistentlylost

01-21-2009, 03:34 PM

I find myslef doubting anything Ben says. The one manipulation that intrigues me is when he "healed" Juliet's sister. Am I alone in believing that she never got cancer again and he just falsified medical records so that Juliet would believe her sister had cancer again and Ben could heal her? For me, that is one of the most clever and thought out manipulations Ben has performed.

steedo79

01-21-2009, 03:51 PM

well probally what ever he did to danial the french women to make here crazy and kill all her people

stargazer

01-21-2009, 04:07 PM

There are far too manipulations! He got Sayid to work for him..

persistentlylost

01-21-2009, 04:13 PM

Getting a bus to hit Juliet's ex was impressive.

bunnydixon

01-21-2009, 04:36 PM

i cant say in public ;)

:eek:

stargazer

01-21-2009, 05:04 PM

i cant say in public ;)

:eek:

Hmmm...you talking that whole Locke/Linus union thing?

5starboss

01-21-2009, 06:10 PM

IDK about the favorite, but Ben's defining "con" to me is when he gets past the security clerk at CWhidmore's pentouse. His entire story is a lie and the fate of the watchman's skull being bashed in with Ben's boomstick depends on whether or not he believes Ben. The guy is lucky he let Ben though.

Jeremy

01-21-2009, 06:40 PM

Who knows...maybe Juliet's sister eventually died after having her child.

As for my own "favorite," it's hard to choose. I guess it depends on whether he meant for the O6 to die while they were on the frieghter.

lostlindy

01-21-2009, 06:50 PM

The mother of them all was how he got Micheal to do everything that he did. Like the killing of Anna and Libby.:mad: Especially Libby.:mad::mad:

beachblinkette

01-21-2009, 07:06 PM

In the hatch Ben knew how to play John by telling him that he didn't push the button and that nothing happened. He also played Jack and John against each other over who was giving orders and who was in charge. He is a master manipulator!!!

Missie

01-21-2009, 07:14 PM

Jeremy

01-21-2009, 07:19 PM

I hated it when we saw Ben's sneaky little grin after he manipulated Sayid into killing for him.

Also what about the way he manipulated Jack into doing the surgery for him. That one took some planning!

Yeah, the latter was a pretty long and complicated con, and after rewatching a few episodes, it seems he wasn't as confident as he always seems to be. And now we know he thinks Jacob wanted him to have that tumor, so that must have been hard for him.

Missie

01-21-2009, 07:23 PM

Yeah, the latter was a pretty long and complicated con, and after rewatching a few episodes, it seems he wasn't as confident as he always seems to be. And now we know he thinks Jacob wanted him to have that tumor, so that must have been hard for him.

Not only did he plan on Kate and Sawyer hooking up and Jack watching it, he also manipulated Juliet into befreinding Jack because she looks a lot like his ex-wife. Then when they escaped he continued to use Juliet to get information.

gingergrant

01-21-2009, 09:15 PM

Manipulating it so that Sawyers real Sawyer was also Lockes dad (how DID he do that?)

R.I.P.Charlie

01-21-2009, 10:09 PM

I think his best is yet to come, convincing the O6 they have to come back to the island so he can find it before charles.

Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid

01-21-2009, 10:44 PM

OMG, you people are killing me!! :eek::)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/lockekid/hangtree.jpg

King_Nate

01-21-2009, 10:46 PM

The best manipulation Ben did was having LOCKE actually do it 4 him, by telling Jack that he had 2 lie 2 every1 just 2 save the island! YUP!

LostLate

01-21-2009, 10:46 PM

You're right LOCKEing. He DID apologize for making John's life so miserable.

Oh yeah and he did make Sayid think it was his own idea to become an assassin:eek:

R.I.P.Charlie

01-21-2009, 10:50 PM

OMG, you people are killing me!! :eek::)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/lockekid/hangtree.jpg

lockeing what are you doing sleeping in that tree? Dont you know lost is on tonight?

Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid

01-21-2009, 10:51 PM

Not that anyone listens, but for the record, Ben never told Michael to kill Ana Lucia and Libby. And I really think people are assuming some of the things like making Anthony Cooper out to be Locke's father. Ben didn't create that, man...

lostlindy

01-21-2009, 10:53 PM

OMG, you people are killing me!! :eek::)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/lockekid/hangtree.jpg

ROFLMAO!!!!:D

Jeremy

01-22-2009, 03:19 AM

Telling the world he didn't exist...oh wait...

boutte

01-22-2009, 04:06 AM

Getting a bus to hit Juliet's ex was impressive.

Yeah that's the one where I realized you don't mess with Ben.

butterflygardengirl

01-22-2009, 04:31 PM

There are far too manipulations! He got Sayid to work for him..

Yeah, getting Sayid to work for him is on the top of my list. Definitely.

Turnip Queen

01-25-2009, 11:27 PM

God there are so many! Any time he's manipulated Locke has been good - cos he gets more of a reaction out of Locke. Locke is so strong-minded and wants to be in control and then Ben will say something to annoy him and he'll have to listen because he knows it will be important and then he'll worm his way in! But his manipulation is his downfall, he's like the boy who cried wolf now!