View Full Version : So who was shooting the flaming arrows?
thelawgiver
01-24-2009, 11:45 PM
I'm surprised this mystery has not been a big topic. I'm not sure what time zone the Losties were in when they were attacked on the beach. I think the last flash-of-light time-jump occurred when Daniel was talking to Des. So it seemed unclear where in time the Losties were. So who shot the arrows? And explain. Show your work.
Dharmites?
Others/Hostiles?
Henry Gale?
Rousseau's team?
Ancient four toed society?
Jeremy
01-24-2009, 11:50 PM
I think that if those military type guys who caught Sawyer and Juliet were Rousseau's team, then that may mean the Purge hadn't happened yet. And if the Purge hadn't happened, perhaps the Hostiles only had their rather primitive weapons to work with rather than the guns Dharma had.
My guess, people from The Black Rock. It seems like the type of weaponry that pirates would have.
LOST815
01-25-2009, 12:19 AM
That is a good question. Not sure who it is. I don't think it is Dharma, does'nt seem to be their style. Also with all of the arrows coming down, it had to be a large group of people. It could be the hostels or some other ancient people. Correct me if I am wrong .............After the flash with Daniel and Desmond...was there another flash? If not then the group that attacked Juliette and Sawyer were in the same time as the arrows. The shooters couldn't be that ancient. I will say this to the flaming arrow shooters...........THANK YOU! Without ya we should still have to listen to Frogurt! Good thing they kept him in the background this long!!
Pelegrin_1
01-25-2009, 12:34 AM
The people behind the whispers... trapped in another dimensional time and released when the Islands started time jumping.
5starboss
01-25-2009, 01:06 AM
I suppose it's the Natives ( Hostiles--Alpert's group). Sawyers squad seems to have gotten in the middle of a squirmishbetween them and a DI security patrol. The military uniform of the Jones slodier who was about to cut off Juilette's arm looke dto be 60-'s-70's US GI.
Saboteur's Requiem
01-25-2009, 01:16 AM
I suppose it's the Natives ( Hostiles--Alpert's group). Sawyers squad seems to have gotten in the middle of a squirmishbetween them and a DI security patrol. The military uniform of the Jones slodier who was about to cut off Juilette's arm looke dto be 60-'s-70's US GI.
My thoughts exactly on the hostiles but i was thinking more Korean war uni's for the Gi's.
5starboss
01-25-2009, 01:22 AM
My thoughts exactly on the hostiles but i was thinking more Korean war uni's for the Gi's.
Ya, the OD green with white name badges. I even thought it could be MP specific. i'm not 100% on that....
Saboteur's Requiem
01-25-2009, 01:32 AM
Ya, the OD green with white name badges. I even thought it could be MP specific. i'm not 100% on that....
could be, but i found my dad's old uni from the Korean war (he was in the 187th) and it looked eerily familiar.
But the main guy who did all the talking sounded as if he were British-type, maybe mercenaries from the 50's?
BigL5000
01-25-2009, 01:35 AM
Whom ever did this got a knife in the back from John Locke. That was sinister.
Monkey-Hands
01-25-2009, 01:37 AM
I say they are the original inhabitants of the island, or as the DI would say the hostils.
5starboss
01-25-2009, 01:48 AM
could be, but i found my dad's old uni from the Korean war (he was in the 187th) and it looked eerily familiar.
But the main guy who did all the talking sounded as if he were British-type, maybe mercenaries from the 50's?
187th from fort cambell kentucky?? they releived my unit in Bosnia in 1999. I was with 1-87 from the 10th MTN.
5starboss
01-25-2009, 01:50 AM
Whom ever did this got a knife in the back from John Locke. That was sinister.
Locke is turning into a back-stabber here lately.
Saboteur's Requiem
01-25-2009, 01:53 AM
187th from fort cambell kentucky?? they releived my unit in Bosnia in 1999. I was with 1-87 from the 10th MTN.
I think so i'd have to ask him, he then went on to Vietnam where he was in the 25th infantry div, hairy **** man.
Shipley18
01-25-2009, 02:21 AM
Locke is turning into a back-stabber here lately.
hahaha nice
my thought was it had to be either the hostiles or pirates. but it was just my thought, so its probally wrong as is the case 97% of the time with lost.
5starboss
01-25-2009, 02:24 AM
hahaha nice
my thought was it had to be either the hostiles or pirates. but it was just my thought, so its probally wrong as is the case 97% of the time with lost.
welcome to the site Shipley. why 97%? why not 98.6% or 99.9%?:D
Shipley18
01-25-2009, 02:28 AM
because i was right twice...just twice :(
thelawgiver
01-26-2009, 04:45 PM
It looks like the archers are with the military crew who tried to sever Juliette's hand. See this clip and you can freeze the frame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP-YgThsAJg
5starboss
01-26-2009, 05:34 PM
I noticed the dudes with the od green uniforms are running and shooting the arrows at the same time. This isn't a task that can be easily mastered. ( or maybe it is, i never tried). Me thinks they are still natives/hostiles but have acquired the surplus of supplies from their vanquished enemy combatants.
Perhaps, after getting uniforms from dead soldiers, they are wearing them to fool other patrols. or, they have infiltrated the DI security force with their stolen/comendered equipment. or, I am wrong.
Missie
01-26-2009, 05:37 PM
An unknown group from the future.
bamboo2
01-26-2009, 05:58 PM
That is a good question. Not sure who it is. I don't think it is Dharma, does'nt seem to be their style. Also with all of the arrows coming down, it had to be a large group of people. It could be the hostels or some other ancient people. Correct me if I am wrong .............After the flash with Daniel and Desmond...was there another flash? If not then the group that attacked Juliette and Sawyer were in the same time as the arrows. The shooters couldn't be that ancient. I will say this to the flaming arrow shooters...........THANK YOU! Without ya we should still have to listen to Frogurt! Good thing they kept him in the background this long!!
The flash with Desmond and Daniel doesn't seem to have happened to the other losties. We don't see it happen to either Locke or Beach folk like with the previous flashes and Sawyer asked Daniel were he had been for the past 2 hours when he returns to the beach. The swan station is only a 15 minute walk. I think either Desmond or Daniel had their own personal time travel.
And I think the archers were from the Arrow station. The use of flaming arrows could have been used to intimidate and scare but not kill everyone.
5starboss
01-26-2009, 06:07 PM
it scared the crap out of Frogurt:D
StormyKnight
01-26-2009, 07:04 PM
I think the arrows might be from the hostiles that the DI was fighting with. The guys in the uniforms might have been a military branch of the DI. Didn't the guy ask Sawyer and Juliet what they were doing on "our island"? I'll have to see it again but I thought I saw a Dharma symbol on their uniforms.
Either way- Frogurt finally got his fire!:eek:
heatwave
01-26-2009, 08:55 PM
I don't think you need to see those flashes with every single scene to know it is happening. I think when Des and Dan had that flash we have to assume that the rest of the survivors had the same thing happen.
This is why when Sawyer gets back to the beach he never gets his shirt. They traveled back into a time before the crash.
I don't know what Daniel was doing during those 2 hours. He may have gone exploring.
thelawgiver
01-26-2009, 09:49 PM
They may also be an earlier Widmore mercenary band, evenually killed off by the Others/Hostiles. They seen to be extremely paranoid (the others/hostiles never act this way--always in control).
perso3
01-26-2009, 10:55 PM
I think they are the original inhabitants/hostiles who killed Russeous team and took their uniforms and guns. Cutting peoples hands off and claiming the island as their own seems like something hostiles or primitive people would do.
thelawgiver
01-26-2009, 11:03 PM
I thought Rousseau's team were scientists and also a small group. Why would they have military uniforms? However, Rousseau was constantly wearing fatigues, so maybe they had fatigues or Rousseau stole hers from these "other" guys. She did say that her group developed "the sickness" and she killed them off.
heatwave
01-27-2009, 02:30 AM
Wasn't Roussou pregnant when she arrived on the island? Alex was what, 16 years old. That would mean Roussou's boat got to the island in around lat 1980's or 1990. I feel that the survivors last flash to the past was further into the past than 1990 or so.
00sco200
01-27-2009, 02:37 AM
it was the others, Juliette explains this in episode 3 jughead, video clips can be found of this on the web already
try youtube
Unbridled Pageantry
01-27-2009, 02:50 AM
I can't wait until we get to the Black Rock. Finally after five years of patience we're going to start to get some answers. Whenever I get frustrated at Lost I just think of Richard saying, "You're going to have to be very patient".
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