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BucFanLostinNC
01-25-2009, 04:01 AM
When Ben visited the woman at the Meat House he asked about 2 men briefly when he talked to her. Who were they?

Jack calls Ben and reports to him that he has Sayid and Ben looked as though somthing was wrong. Ben told Jack that they would collect the O6 one at a time starting with Hurley.

But Sayid got to him first and told him that if he had the pleasure of running into Ben Linus to do exactly the opposite of what he said. Then they go to the scene where Sayid is attacked by TWO MEN!!!!!

Thats why I bring up the two that Ben ask about! Seems to me that Hurley wasnt supposed to be with Sayid at all and was def not supposed to know about what him and Sayid were up to. So now Ben had planned on killing Sayid these were the two men in his apartment and the same two Ben asked about. Also I belive that Ben told Jack Sayid was the last of the O6 to be retrieved.

Did Ben try and kill Sayid?????

Saboteur's Requiem
01-25-2009, 04:06 AM
Whoa i never thought aboot it that way.

The two names were Gabriel and Jeffrey. Me thinks you are on to something.

Sayids would be captors were using darts so if it were Ben's men they were just trying to capture him, or could've been Widmore to get the inside scoop on Ben's whereaboots.

I think Ben made Sayid try and kill Penny and Sayid said no.

BucFanLostinNC
01-25-2009, 04:12 AM
Whoa i never thought aboot it that way.

The two names were Gabriel and Jeffrey. Me thinks you are on to something.

Sayids would be captors were using darts so if it were Ben's men they were just trying to capture him, or could've been Widmore to get the inside scoop on Ben's whereaboots.

I think Ben made Sayid try and kill Penny and Sayid said no.

Yes it could def go either way. I was looking for a confrentation between Sayid and Des over Penny. I can see him telling Ben no about killing Penny and parting ways. Also in season four when Sayid is getting the bullet removed by Ben he says I have another name for you and I can bet that its Penny Widmore. When he says no Bens men probably went to dart Sayid down so that they could not kill but maybe return him to the island unconius. So that he couldnt leak out any more information to the other O6.

Saboteur's Requiem
01-25-2009, 04:21 AM
Yes it could def go either way. I was looking for a confrentation between Sayid and Des over Penny. I can see him telling Ben no about killing Penny and parting ways. Also in season four when Sayid is getting the bullet removed by Ben he says I have another name for you and I can bet that its Penny Widmore. When he says no Bens men probably went to dart Sayid down so that they could not kill but maybe return him to the island unconius. So that he couldnt leak out any more information to the other O6.

Des and Sayid in "the constant" seemed to become fast friends and Sayid being ordered to kill Penny would garner a quick no so i hope to not see a confrontation between Des and Sayid, because if Sayid kills Penny he kills Des and sorry, Des couldn't touch Sayid in a death match.

I was thinking about Sayid having to kill Penny and that leading to a confro between him and Des and i hoped it would not happen.

heatwave
01-25-2009, 04:28 AM
I agree that Sayid wouldn't kill Penny. Killing Penny would be like when Nadia was killed and he wouldn't want to do that to Desmond.

If Ben wanted Sayid killed, those men wouldn't be using darts. Even after being hit, he was still alive, just in a tranquilized state.

BucFanLostinNC
01-25-2009, 04:30 AM
It would be close both were Military trained and Desmond was a fit Sailor. But really my point is that Ben probably had it ordered to dart Sayid and contain him until time to leave. This is to prevent Sayid from telling the others what Ben had planned otherwise they would have pulled a Hurley and tried to prevent returning under Bens order. That name Ben gave Sayid had to be Penny. Ben hasnt been in contact with the 6 besides Sayid and probably doesnt know that Des has a relationship with Pen and that she was who resqued them.

Saboteur's Requiem
01-25-2009, 04:34 AM
It would be close both were Military trained and Desmond was a fit Sailor. But really my point is that Ben probably had it ordered to dart Sayid and contain him until time to leave. This is to prevent Sayid from telling the others what Ben had planned otherwise they would have pulled a Hurley and tried to prevent returning under Bens order. That name Ben gave Sayid had to be Penny. Ben hasnt been in contact with the 6 besides Sayid and probably doesnt know that Des has a relationship with Pen and that she was who resqued them.

Yeah those tranq darts had a looooooong lasting effect on Sayid( didn't he get hit with 2?) so i can see them having him out long enough so he wouldn't be a problem. Ben did seem pretty shocked when Jack told him Sayid came to him, which lead Ben to Hurley's house.

-XENOMORPHMELT-
01-25-2009, 05:25 AM
The guy in the background of the meathouse could be Charlies father if I remember correctly Charlie had a father that cut meat.

LOSTintheFlood
01-25-2009, 04:40 PM
I had been considering the actions that transpired to lead Sayid to distrust Ben. Considering Sayid had been working for Ben to kill off names of individuals, I could not understand why Sayid would then tell Hurley to not trust him. My assumption is that we will learn a lot from Sayid when he finally speaks with Jack. As for Hurley, I think he is hell-bent on not doing what imaginary people tell him and therefore got arrested against Ana Lucia's warning. Somehow, someone from the dead will reveal themself to unlock any cell Hurley is placed in, just a matter of who.

TheLunaAngel
01-25-2009, 04:55 PM
oh YEAH, Charlies dad .. I had forgotten about that! But who is Jill? (porterhouse woman) and Gabriel and the other dude he mentioned?

Brother Desmond
01-26-2009, 02:29 PM
When Ben visited the woman at the Meat House he asked about 2 men briefly when he talked to her. Who were they?

Jack calls Ben and reports to him that he has Sayid and Ben looked as though somthing was wrong. Ben told Jack that they would collect the O6 one at a time starting with Hurley.

But Sayid got to him first and told him that if he had the pleasure of running into Ben Linus to do exactly the opposite of what he said. Then they go to the scene where Sayid is attacked by TWO MEN!!!!!

Thats why I bring up the two that Ben ask about! Seems to me that Hurley wasnt supposed to be with Sayid at all and was def not supposed to know about what him and Sayid were up to. So now Ben had planned on killing Sayid these were the two men in his apartment and the same two Ben asked about. Also I belive that Ben told Jack Sayid was the last of the O6 to be retrieved.

Did Ben try and kill Sayid?????

I don't think the two men who attacked Sayid at the safehouse are the same men Ben asks about in the butcher's shop. The two men who attacked Sayid could have been Ben's men, but not the same two he talked about.

When Ben goes into the butcher shop, he asks if Gabriel and Jeffrey have checked in. Jill replies that they have. Ben's time in the butcher shop takes place after Sayid was attacked. How could Gabriel and Jeffrey check in if they were dead?

BensBaby
01-26-2009, 02:48 PM
I agree that Ben could of told Sayid to kill Penny and Sayid told him no or didn't go through with the order. I doubt that Ben would care, he would just send someone else to do it. It doesn't have to be Sayid who kills her. Ben has people working for him all over the place. I'm thinking that Ben either doesn't want Sayid to tell anyone that he was ordered to kill Penny or that Sayid told Ben he would not return to the Island so Ben decided to knock him out to get him back.

BucFanLostinNC
01-26-2009, 08:04 PM
I agree that Ben could of told Sayid to kill Penny and Sayid told him no or didn't go through with the order. I doubt that Ben would care, he would just send someone else to do it. It doesn't have to be Sayid who kills her. Ben has people working for him all over the place. I'm thinking that Ben either doesn't want Sayid to tell anyone that he was ordered to kill Penny or that Sayid told Ben he would not return to the Island so Ben decided to knock him out to get him back.

Yes it doesnt matter who kills Penny but he probably asked Sayid. Ben doesnt want the 06 to know about what him and Sayid have Ben up too so he orders his men to dart Sayid so that he cannot tell any of them. But he is too late Hurley knows. But not to worry Hurley is in jail and notice Benny Badazz does nothing to prevent the cops from taking him. Ben normally would whip out his Baton and take them out.