Penny

[LostFreak21]

What if when Desmond and Penny go to L.A. to visit Mrs. H and they walk in and Penny says...Hi Mom!
Penny knew right away that Desmond was lying about Daniel's Mom. Why would she know that? Remember the light and dark thing on this show. When Penny was talking to Desmond about that her face was half light and the other was dark. I do believe Penny knows something.

[TSOL1]

That would be a twist. Do you think Ben knows that Mrs H is her mom and that Penny will show up there at some point?

Does anyone remember if Ben had any interaction with Daniel prior to moving the island?

[LostFreak21]

Yes it would be a twist! I am wondering why the whole set up between Penny and Desmond happened. If Brother Desmond and Mrs. H are in this together then what is the reasoning for getting Des and Penny together.
I don't know if Ben had any interaction with Daniel. I don't recall.

[LostFreak21]

Penny has to know about all of this stuff going on. She would have had to grown up with it.

[Yummy Yoghurt]

I think she's well dodgy and her Dad is using Penny to get to Desmond because Desmond is an anchor to other characters and getting onto the Island.

I think there is something going on between Charles and his need to get the Island.

[Jasonater]

I know theres all this speculation about Faraday's and Penny's mom being Ms. Hawkin's. So why do they all have different last names? Anyone have screen shots of Penny and Ms hawkins? Someone said they looked a like? How about screen shots of Ellie also?

[BensBaby]

What if when Desmond and Penny go to L.A. to visit Mrs. H and they walk in and Penny says...Hi Mom!
Penny knew right away that Desmond was lying about Daniel's Mom. Why would she know that? Remember the light and dark thing on this show. When Penny was talking to Desmond about that her face was half light and the other was dark. I do believe Penny knows something.

LostFreak, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Penny says Hi Mom to Mrs. Hawkings. I think Penny plays a large part in this but is trying to stay out of it, for what reason I don't know. Maybe Hawkings is her maiden name or she has remarried which could explain why everyone has a different name, Hawkings, Faraday, Widmore.

[LostFreak21]

http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2009/01/5x03-daniels-mom.php#more
They look alike Jasonater! Is that your baby in the picture?

[Jasonater]

http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2009/01/5x03-daniels-mom.php#more
They look alike Jasonater! Is that your baby in the picture?

Yes that's my new one! Ella. She is one month.

I wanted to name her Kate but my wife said NO! lol

[islander]

What if when Desmond and Penny go to L.A. to visit Mrs. H and they walk in and Penny says...Hi Mom!
Penny knew right away that Desmond was lying about Daniel's Mom. Why would she know that? Remember the light and dark thing on this show. When Penny was talking to Desmond about that her face was half light and the other was dark. I do believe Penny knows something.

I agree Penny knows more than she's let on. Remember, she knew how to look for the island with her listening station, and she expressed an immediate interest the very first time she laid eyes on Des.

I think there's a high probablity the Hawking is Penny's mother since Charles and Ellie were on the island together, and there's a slightly less probablity that Hawking is Dan's mother since we really don't know that either one of them is Dan's parent.

[LostFreak21]

For Widmore to have Daniel Faraday's Mother's Address- plus before he even looked in the little black book he said that she was in L.A. He must know her well.

[ragde]

i dont know about the whole penny/hawking relationship, but i do believe that penny will be killed by ben once there in LA... if she does travel to LA with desmond.
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[black&white]

i dont know about the whole penny/hawking relationship, but i do believe that penny will be killed by ben once there in LA... if she does travel to LA with desmond.

It is very strange that the mothers of sons on LOST just dont hang around...ie die, leave...or whatever.

[Saboteur's Requiem]

For Widmore to have Daniel Faraday's Mother's Address- plus before he even looked in the little black book he said that she was in L.A. He must know her well.

Speaking of little black book it was mentioned the "economist" hated modern technology and Widmore is loaded so you think he'd have her address in his pda or computer so i think Mr Widdy is the "economist".

Ms Hawking isFaraday's and Penny's mom for sure.

[Kilaria]

i have read everything you guys have said; and i honestly think the reason Penny knew Des was lying was because she has been with him constantly for 3 yrs.........she just knows when he is lying just like all us women know when our hubbies are lying to us.
i don't think there is anything more to it then she loves him so much she is in tune with him.


if everything is a writer consperacy then some of the humanity of the characters will be lost.

[delfrio]

It is very strange that the mothers of sons on LOST just dont hang around...ie die, leave...or whatever.

Parental abandonment is a common theme on JJ Abrahms shows.

[Saboteur's Requiem]

i have read everything you guys have said; and i honestly think the reason Penny knew Des was lying was because she has been with him constantly for 3 yrs.........she just knows when he is lying just like all us women know when our hubbies are lying to us.
i don't think there is anything more to it then she loves him so much she is in tune with him.


if everything is a writer consperacy then some of the humanity of the characters will be lost.

True, it is exhausting when you're watching a show and you're looking for every possible connection or poster or drawing or number on a door.
Sometimes you just wanna watch and be entertained which Lost does immensely, but this is what we are stuck doing cuz i'd say 95% of what they put in the shows have much significance.:)

[CowboySawyer]

Well, we now know that Widmore was once on the island in "Judhead" and that he said when Charles ran away from John, Juliet and Sawyer he said "Their leader is a soddy old man! How could he possibly know this island better than me!" This could be what started Ben and Widmore's conflict in the first place, that Ben knew the island better than Widmore and that made him furious.

[WeHaveToGoBack]

You wanna know what i think. I think penny and desmonds baby, charlie (charles) is actually going to grow up to be charles widmore. Penny gave birth to a child named: Charlie...aka Charles Widmore. Then they go back in time on the island to around the year 1930 with young Charles Widmore. At some point, Penny and Desmond die, (maybe there adam and eve) and then Widmore grows up on the island. Eventually, he is exiled and then leaves the island, marries Mrs. Hawking and then gives birth to Penny again, creating a loop.

[King_Nate]

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[Amp]

You wanna know what i think. I think penny and desmonds baby, charlie (charles) is actually going to grow up to be charles widmore. Penny gave birth to a child named: Charlie...aka Charles Widmore. Then they go back in time on the island to around the year 1930 with young Charles Widmore. At some point, Penny and Desmond die, (maybe there adam and eve) and then Widmore grows up on the island. Eventually, he is exiled and then leaves the island, marries Mrs. Hawking and then gives birth to Penny again, creating a loop.

sir, you just blew my mind

[LissaMarie]

I agree that baby Charlie grows up to be one of the Charlie / Charles' we've already met. I just re-watched Jughead and I think Penny may have given us a clue to that. She had just fed the baby breakfast and Des asked how it went and she said something to the effect of..."he put up a fight at first but he listens in the end...unlike his father." It could just be Lost fan paranoia but it reminded me of Charlie Pace accepting his fate that he had to die, doesn't it? He fought the notion at first but accepted it in the end, right?

Also, I noticed when Des went to Widmore's office that Charles said he hadn't seen or spoken to Penny in 3 years. That would mean that he spoke to her right before Des and the O6 were found by her boat. Perhaps he warned her to stay hidden because Ben was out to kill her but she seemed so miffed at her Dad when the O6 were discussing if they should lie while still on her boat. Something just doesn't seem right with that.

I'm also curious if anyone else had a hard time figuring out what time period Des was in when he was speaking to the lady in the library in Oxford. Her hair style, make-up and clothes as well as the background players seemed very 1950's to me. This had to be intentionally done by the producers but I just can't figure out why?! Any thoughts?

[lkeegan]

What if when Desmond and Penny go to L.A. to visit Mrs. H and they walk in and Penny says...Hi Mom!
Penny knew right away that Desmond was lying about Daniel's Mom. Why would she know that? Remember the light and dark thing on this show. When Penny was talking to Desmond about that her face was half light and the other was dark. I do believe Penny knows something.

but penny and daniel could be sister in bother, only crossing time to never know.

[natego]

Somehow I dont think Penny is her own father's mother..

though i have been very suspicious of Penny ever since the Arctic science team guys called her after the hatch incident..

[Unbridled Pageantry]

Somehow I dont think Penny is her own father's mother..

though i have been very suspicious of Penny ever since the Arctic science team guys called her after the hatch incident..

What are you suspicious of?

[natego]

Also, how could baby Charlie be Charlie Pace, when Des and Penny did not have another kid before him and name him Liam.. anyone have an explanation for that?

[Here'sLOCKEing at you,Kid]

What are you suspicious of?

Yeah, what?:confused:
It was a bit too convenient the way she happened to show up... but then, she's been looking for Des for 8 yrs, man! And she had all the money in the world to pay those Portuguese guys to keep a watch out for signals all that time... I trust her.

[the ghost of others past]

Somehow I dont think Penny is her own father's mother..

though i have been very suspicious of Penny ever since the Arctic science team guys called her after the hatch incident..

Yeah, somehow the "I'm my own Gramma" thing isn't working for me either, but it IS funny!:D If it IS the case I wonder if she's missing the delta brainwave as well!:eek:

I'm just being silly. Honestly, I think little Charlie was just named after Charlie Pace because both Penny and Des were impacted by his death and he is the one who brought them back together. If Charlie hadn't answered Penny's call before he died she never would have found Desmond.

[LostFreak21]

I wonder why when Desmond calls Penny in the year 1996 she doesn't want anything to do with him.
Another thing is why is she scared of her Father besides that he is looking for the Island. He is very worried about Penny so it's not like Charles Widmore is going to hurt her.

[bunnydixon]

it just gets weirder and weirder..........:eek:

[LostFreak21]

I was wondering if Penny had been on the Island just like her father.

[Lenae7]

I agree that Penny knows a lot more about what is going on. The look she gave Desmond when he said Daniel's mother was dead gave it away.

[BensBaby]

I believe that Penny is going to play a huge roll in this whole island thing. I think she has probably been to the island before (just now sure when). It also won't surprise me that if Mrs. Hawkings is actaully Daniels mother that Penny just may say Hi Mom to her too.

Penny is mad at her father probably for chasing Desmond away from her, what better revenge than being with the guy your Daddy doesn't like.

Not sure at this point on if Penny is a good guy or a bad guy, I just feel like she is going to play a bigger roll in all of this.