They have to turn the Wheel...

[ImagoDei]

I think in order to stop the time jumping they have to turn the wheel back.

I think that is what Daniel was trying to do when Dr. Hanso was down in the tunel. I think they will find out that is what they need to do and Daniel goes down to do it. That is why he was sort of hiding his face, because he was not suposed to be there. Then he is let down when he finds out that they have not gotten to the wheel in that time jump yet.

What does everyone think?

[HisNameIsRobertPaulson]

Wouldn't they need to do this specifically in the time era where it was originally turned? In other words, the wheel wasn't turned until time X...so going back before time X, the wheel would not have been turned to need to be turned back. It would only be in any time after time X that it would need to be turned back.

[islander]

Maybe, but then I think Ben could have instructed Locke to turn the wheel back once the island moved, unless of course Ben wanted the island to plunge into chaos which is just like him, isn't it?

[LostNtime]

I think in order to stop the time jumping they have to turn the wheel back.

I think that is what Daniel was trying to do when Dr. Hanso was down in the tunel. I think they will find out that is what they need to do and Daniel goes down to do it. That is why he was sort of hiding his face, because he was not suposed to be there. Then he is let down when he finds out that they have not gotten to the wheel in that time jump yet.

What does everyone think?

That is a very good theory…However, I believe that the island will continue to jump until the Oceanic 6, John, and Ben all return to the island. Also, I believe that Ben and Ms. Hawking were able to determine the timeframe in which the island exists during the scene with pendulum. Ms. Hawking stated that you only have 70hrs. Maybe Dharma and/or the others figured out how to harness the power of the hydrogen bomb in order to time jump.Any other thoughts?

[ImagoDei]

Wouldn't they need to do this specifically in the time era where it was originally turned? In other words, the wheel wasn't turned until time X...so going back before time X, the wheel would not have been turned to need to be turned back. It would only be in any time after time X that it would need to be turned back.



Yes I think the 70 hour time fram and the O6 come into play as well..

I think maybe this is when the plane crashes or something along those lines and if everyone is not on the island when that happens there will be a large problem.

So There is a small window when everyone need to be on the island and then and only then can the wheel be turned back.

A little forshadowing when Dr Hanso put the record on and it started to skip, then Daniel used the record skipping as a way to explain their situation.

By turning the wheel back is like moving the record pin back into its correct grove and in turn stop the jumping.

But I dont think they know that the O6 need to be there, or perhaps them being there is another situation all together...

[ImagoDei]

That is a very good theory…However, I believe that the island will continue to jump until the Oceanic 6, John, and Ben all return to the island. Also, I believe that Ben and Ms. Hawking were able to determine the timeframe in which the island exists during the scene with pendulum. Ms. Hawking stated that you only have 70hrs. Maybe Dharma and/or the others figured out how to harness the power of the hydrogen bomb in order to time jump.Any other thoughts?

I know the Bomb is not near the wheel, I mentioned in a different thread that the wheel is under the orchid station and the bomb , if a part of any, would be in the swan station.

[notsolost42]

I'm not too sure it's that simple. If it does turn out to be true and of course there is always that possibility, I think it is Jack that turns the wheel. I've already posted that Jack turns the wheel and that's why he lands in the jungle when the plane crashes....

[ImagoDei]

I'm not too sure it's that simple. If it does turn out to be true and of course there is always that possibility, I think it is Jack that turns the wheel. I've already posted that Jack turns the wheel and that's why he lands in the jungle when the plane crashes....

I think i read that, but are you saying that he wasnt on the plane then?

[zwishmaster]

I know the Bomb is not near the wheel, I mentioned in a different thread that the wheel is under the orchid station and the bomb , if a part of any, would be in the swan station.
I believe the bomb is under the arrow station. i say this because in the army a lost bomb is referred to as a "broken arrow". this could be a coincidence though

[5starboss]

I believe the bomb is under the arrow station. i say this because in the army a lost bomb is referred to as a "broken arrow". this could be a coincidence though

good point zwish. more specifically, a lost nuke. Since the Arrow is a defense station, maybe it's a last resort, self detonation countdown to obliteration type of thing.

[perso3]

thats a very interesting point notsolost42, so its like a time loop thing.

[notsolost42]

I think i read that, but are you saying that he wasnt on the plane then?

Somehow, yes. Possibly the final flash of light and Jack is on the island just before or just after boarding. Did anyone notice if Jack used the restroom on the plane or wandered somewhere in the airport? Don't forget, TPTB can easily just write that part in. Just like they did when they were telling the backstory on Goodwin's wife. They "replayed" season 2 when the plane was crashing and Ben and everyone ran outside to watch. His wife was now standing next to Goodwin when Ben told him to go to that part of the island. In season 2, she was not there. It's all in how TPTB decide to retell it. They can be kind of sneaky about it! So, the point is, they can just write in a part where Jack is at the airport, in his suit, or just boarding the plane and goes into the restroom or whatever. I guess it might be something like Jack and the 06 have returned to the island, the flash happens and Jack finds himself at the airport. Maybe they're all back at the airport. Then, bang, back on the island in the ice caves. Does it make any sense? It would have to be that he time jumps like Desmond did off the island and then back agian...it could be possible.

[notsolost42]

I believe the bomb is under the arrow station. i say this because in the army a lost bomb is referred to as a "broken arrow". this could be a coincidence though

That is excellent information! Thanks! I think that could help explain the army footlocker there also then! Great call!

[zwishmaster]

good point zwish. more specifically, a lost nuke. Since the Arrow is a defense station, maybe it's a last resort, self detonation countdown to obliteration type of thing.

which station was it that farraday had to fix the reactor to last season?

[XmasDVD]

Don't forget, one of our previews shows what looks like John in the wheel room - so maybe he does turn it back.

[notsolost42]

which station was it that farraday had to fix the reactor to last season?

I think the station was the Tempest. It was where the chemicals were stored that were used in the purge I believe.

[00sco200]

I think in order to stop the time jumping they have to turn the wheel back.

I think that is what Daniel was trying to do when Dr. Hanso was down in the tunel. I think they will find out that is what they need to do and Daniel goes down to do it. That is why he was sort of hiding his face, because he was not suposed to be there. Then he is let down when he finds out that they have not gotten to the wheel in that time jump yet.

What does everyone think?

in order to turn the wheel back would they not need to go to the orchid station and fill the time machine thingy with metal objects land blow it open like Ben did??? i think this would be quiet hard to do.

[LOST815]

Don't forget, one of our previews shows what looks like John in the wheel room - so maybe he does turn it back.

You may be on to something. Maybe that is how John gets off the island. The same way Ben did...........by turning the wheel. That would maybe stop the island from time jumping and allow John to get the O6 back. The part I don't understand is why does the O6 need to return in order to "save the world"? I am sure that we will get some type of answer.