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Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 03:29 AM
I'm not sure if this was posted yet but did anyone else notice that the woman Sayid hooked up with then killed had the same bracelet on as Naomi?? When he went over to her and closed her eyes (like he had done with Naomi) his hand kinda went down her arm and he touched her hand. I noticed the camera kinda stayed on it which showed she had the same (or very similiar) bracelet on. Just wondering if anyone else noticed that??

My guess is whomever Naomi worked for, that woman worked for as well.

jacksnurse
02-15-2008, 03:32 AM
yeah..exact same and i think that they were both maybe working for the same boss...the initials were R.G.......what the ?

Ezekiel 25:17
02-15-2008, 03:33 AM
Yeah, I think ur right, that braclet did look very similar, it has to be the same. At first I thought they were related, but they don't look alike (obviously) so they must work together (or worked) I can't tell past from present from future anymore. Thats possible.

jacksnurse
02-15-2008, 03:36 AM
yeah...it was engraved with something like"i'll always be there....R.G." wonder if Elsa's said the same thing....??

hunter8768
02-15-2008, 03:41 AM
It seems as though the Economist hired a bunch of people that Syid must kill. I'm thinking the economist is the black guy (can't remember his name) that visited Hurley in the mental hospital and hired Naomi too.

TuesdaySmith
02-15-2008, 04:18 AM
While I was watching I thought it was the same bracelet, but after looking at the screen shot, I'm not sure.. Elsa's has a bandy thing on the end, while Naomi's has the cut outs.

Check it out and tell me what you think:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_8HhjIy50yEY/R7UYIeSXrYI/AAAAAAAAAWA/xU1Y5_B5MJE/s1600-h/4x03_braclets.jpg

PacmanIsLost
02-15-2008, 04:22 AM
i think their employer (Abaddon) gave them all the same bracelet and Regina engraved her twin sister Naomi's bracelet and gave it to her...

snow24
02-15-2008, 12:36 PM
I'm not sure if this was posted yet but did anyone else notice that the woman Sayid hooked up with then killed had the same bracelet on as Naomi?? When he went over to her and closed her eyes (like he had done with Naomi) his hand kinda went down her arm and he touched her hand. I noticed the camera kinda stayed on it which showed she had the same (or very similiar) bracelet on. Just wondering if anyone else noticed that??

My guess is whomever Naomi worked for, that woman worked for as well.

I totally agree that who ever the leader of the freighter people are, is the "economist" and he gives the people these bracelets, maybe after they are with him for so long or something.

did anyone notice if the man Sayid killed on the golf course has this bracelet? I forgot to go back and check it out.

also, I don't think that the flash forwards aren't necessarily going in chronological order. The man on the course could actually be the "economist." When Sayid mentioned he was a survivor of flight 815, its like the man knew he was already dead. That combined with the end of the episode, with Ben and Sayid talking about the "economist's" people now knowing someone was after them, I really think that the shot on the golf course is taking place after the incident in Berlin.

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 03:25 PM
I totally agree that who ever the leader of the freighter people are, is the "economist" and he gives the people these bracelets, maybe after they are with him for so long or something.

did anyone notice if the man Sayid killed on the golf course has this bracelet? I forgot to go back and check it out.

also, I don't think that the flash forwards aren't necessarily going in chronological order. The man on the course could actually be the "economist." When Sayid mentioned he was a survivor of flight 815, its like the man knew he was already dead. That combined with the end of the episode, with Ben and Sayid talking about the "economist's" people now knowing someone was after them, I really think that the shot on the golf course is taking place after the incident in Berlin.

I think thats a good theory but I don't think it was taken place AFTER the incident in Berlin only because after Sayid was shot, he tells Ben that now "they" know he's after him and Ben tells him that he has a new name for Sayid. So if it was after the incident in Berlin, I feel like he would have said another name, unless he knew he was just going to shoot the man so he didn't care either way if he knew. I just think the man on the golf course was just another person on Ben's list.

Robo42
02-15-2008, 03:30 PM
Totally agree Dz. Do you recall if naom's bracelet also had an inscriptin along with the initala?

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 03:46 PM
Totally agree Dz. Do you recall if naom's bracelet also had an inscriptin along with the initala?

Yah it said "N, I'll always be with you, R.G."

Maybe the bracelets are some sort of tracking device????

bunnydixon
02-15-2008, 05:34 PM
i notced that elsas had a safety chain on whereas naomis never

mirizarry716
02-15-2008, 05:37 PM
I'm not sure if this was posted yet but did anyone else notice that the woman Sayid hooked up with then killed had the same bracelet on as Naomi?? When he went over to her and closed her eyes (like he had done with Naomi) his hand kinda went down her arm and he touched her hand. I noticed the camera kinda stayed on it which showed she had the same (or very similiar) bracelet on. Just wondering if anyone else noticed that??

My guess is whomever Naomi worked for, that woman worked for as well.

That is why I think the head guy is that guy who hired Naomi, Miles, etc to go to the island. The same guy that visited Hurley in the hospital.

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 05:40 PM
That is why I think the head guy is that guy who hired Naomi, Miles, etc to go to the island. The same guy that visited Hurley in the hospital.

I agree :)

TSOL1
02-15-2008, 05:46 PM
What was penelope's father's name? or her lastname for that matter? Dont forget Desmond is some how connected to this.

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 05:47 PM
What was penelope's father's name? or her lastname for that matter? Dont forget Desmond is some how connected to this.

Oh no we haven't forgotten that at all....his last name is Widmore. I'd have to go back and check on his first name but I think he's the mastermind of all of this personally...but I don't think Penny knows.

TuesdaySmith
02-15-2008, 05:59 PM
Oh no we haven't forgotten that at all....his last name is Widmore. I'd have to go back and check on his first name but I think he's the mastermind of all of this personally...but I don't think Penny knows.

I think the same thing! Ok, well, I don't know about ALL of it, but I think that he and Penny are both looking for Desmond, and both know about the island, but they are looking separately for different reasons, and neither knows the other is looking.

TSOL1
02-15-2008, 06:01 PM
Then the guys on the frieghter would have to be working for Penny's father if it comes down to just those 2 groups. Penny didnt know about the frieghter.

So how can we connect Penny's father to Ben?

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 06:06 PM
I think the same thing! Ok, well, I don't know about ALL of it, but I think that he and Penny are both looking for Desmond, and both know about the island, but they are looking separately for different reasons, and neither knows the other is looking.

I agree! Mr. Widmore seemed to hate Desmond...maybe Penny knows that her father is looking for him so she's using what information he's getting to do her own little investigation. She made a comment before when Desmond asked her how she found him (when he was running at the stadium) and Penny goes, "Des I have a lot of money, and with a lot of money you can't find just about anyone"....so yah just thought that was interesting :)

losti4u
02-15-2008, 06:17 PM
I have an observation that I made today while rewatching some of the episodes. At the beginning of this season, Naomi is not wearing the bracelet. It does however show up when Kate and her are fighting over the phone out in the jungle. Strange, huh?!? Also....in the excavating scene....Charlotte is with another woman that is also wearing a silver bracelet. I can't tell if they are the same bracelets, but when she points to the shovel it seems very obvious that they want the bracelet noticed. Not sure if this means anything, but thought it was interesting non the less.

The Stepfather
02-15-2008, 06:23 PM
Dz, They both worked for Matthew Abaddon (tall thin black dude that visited Hurley), me thinks. But the innials say R.G. Now, who's R.G.? Hmmm..then again, maybe Abaddon works for R.G.? FYI the word "Abaddon" means 'impending doom'.http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gitsiegirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/lost_locke_prelost.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gitsiegirl.com/2006/06/&h=400&w=300&sz=28&hl=en&start=1&sig2=MMD8JjJYgoG-Onx9Chq7zg&um=1&tbnid=lGR24PH07Ov-mM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&ei=n-a1R6vDDJeMigH34fCRCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DThe%2BStepfather%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%2 6client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

L0STinLOST4815
02-15-2008, 07:06 PM
1) i dont know how many of yous have tried the find815.com site. But there, theres a revelation that its Penny's dad who led a team to look for the black rock on the Christiane I. The same people who "found" 815 at the bottom of the sea.

2) Is it possible that Ben can see the future like Desmond?

which leads me to:

3) if he CAN, and apparently there is a time difference between the island and the freighter.. what if he knew of sayids intention before sayid himself knew and at the time he said it, it was already 2 days later on the boat which would be when sayid decided to go to and hence, becoming Ben's spy?

Maybe way off.. but would like some other input:D

TuesdaySmith
02-16-2008, 06:11 AM
FYI the word "Abaddon" means 'impending doom'

BUT, in the "enhanced" version (the pop up version) it says that Abaddon means Protector of the Abyss (or something like that).

weezy
02-16-2008, 11:50 AM
I also found these meanings :-

In Biblical poetry, it comes to mean "place of destruction", or the realm of the dead, and is associated with Sheol. Abaddon is also one of the compartments of Gehenna. By extension, it can mean an underworld abode of lost souls, or hell.

Abaddon is one of the infernal names used in LaVeyan Satanism, and is first in the list—only as it comes first alphabetically—and means "the destroyer."

It seems that this is one bad guy lol

Dzbabykel
02-16-2008, 03:32 PM
I also found these meanings :-

In Biblical poetry, it comes to mean "place of destruction", or the realm of the dead, and is associated with Sheol. Abaddon is also one of the compartments of Gehenna. By extension, it can mean an underworld abode of lost souls, or hell.

Abaddon is one of the infernal names used in LaVeyan Satanism, and is first in the list—only as it comes first alphabetically—and means "the destroyer."

It seems that this is one bad guy lol

Yah....just another thing to add to all the religious themes throughout the show.

az-phil
02-16-2008, 04:58 PM
Getting back to the bracelet topic....

Here are some thoughts about the bracelet:

- Sayid could have given it to that girl before they shot each other. He did seem to be falling a bit for her. Although the inscription starts with "N, I'll...", and it's pretty obvious the N would be for Naomi. So it would be odd giving a girl a bracelet with someone else's inscription on it.

- The two bracelets could be the same style. The banding on the bottom could have been added by the 2nd girl to close it up since it was one of those open bracelets. Seems to me that RG gives these to all her henchmen and that we will see more of these bracelets (RG might be a madame that sends out hits on guys that don't pay up).

- Someone mentioned that the scenes with the girl and the golf course guy could have been out of order. If that guy were the "boss", you think he would have recognized Sayid.

- R.G. could be a person's name, but I guess it also could be something else. Maybe the name of a company, a ship, the monster, the polar bear...

Heck, maybe it's Rudy Giuliani pissed off about the elections :)

Turnip Queen
02-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Ooh I think it's very interesting you should say about the girl working with Charlotte having a bracelet too, she must feature in a future episode aswell. I doubt they're just decorative, maybe they are some sort of tracking device or something, who knows at this stage! I'm wondering when we'll find out more about Sayid's future flashes when they're gonna focus on other characters the next few weeks!