Daniel Faraday crying?

[zebu-97]

I think it was early in season 4, when we met Frank Lapidas and the others from the freighter - Miles, Charlotte etc, when we first saw Daniel watching tv coverage of the Oceanic crash and he was crying. That was never really explained - so I am left wondering how much did THAT Daniel know about what was going to happen in the future???

Any thoughts or preferably EXPLANATIONS about that little scene???

[Saboteur's Requiem]

I'm wildly guessing that Daniel was part of the original Dharma in the 70's seeing that he was there in the opening scenes of "Because You Left/The Lie" and he was exposed to massive amounts of electromagnetism, once he left the island his memory was swiss cheesed and he remembered and couldn't remember why he remembered, but he did.

If Daniel was an original Dharma then he's ageless like Richard? Time Traveller? Like I said, I am wildly guessing:D

[littleredman]

I strongly believe that when we see Faraday in the Dharma station it's the same character we're currently watching now, and he'll soon leap to the 1970s along with everyone else and make his way into the station.

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We've seen the Oceanic 6 in Dharma jumpsuits, which implies they either time travel back to the island with the other Losties or they arrive back on the island whilst it's already there. Either way, it's likely Faraday will be with them. I suspect we won't revisit that scene near the Donkey Wheel until the very end of the season.

As for Daniel crying, I'm not sure. If I were to guess I'd say he's somehow hypersensitive to the situation, which explains why he reacted but wasn't sure why.

[Brother Desmond]

I don't think Daniel is ageless, but at some point the Island will flash to the 60's/70's and that is when he will dress in the DI uniform and make his way to the Orchid station.

I think the reason Daniel was crying in the beginning of season 4 was because even though he had already been to the Island, his memory/time travel issues prevented him from remembering the entire experience, and seeing the fake 815 wreckage triggered a vague recollection of what he had been through and what he was about to go through.

[Unbridled Pageantry]

I think it was early in season 4, when we met Frank Lapidas and the others from the freighter - Miles, Charlotte etc, when we first saw Daniel watching tv coverage of the Oceanic crash and he was crying. That was never really explained - so I am left wondering how much did THAT Daniel know about what was going to happen in the future???

Any thoughts or preferably EXPLANATIONS about that little scene???

I think that Faraday in the Orchid is yet to happen, and will be the end result of all the time jumping we are seeing now.
As for Faraday crying, it might have been his conscious knowing what is going to transpire.
I somehow how think that Faraday originally got his notebook from a future Faraday, or possibly his mother. There may be something in there about the 815 crash, so he's read about it and is now watching it unfold.

Also his connection with Widmore is a mystery. Who knows how much Widmore has let him in on what's going on.
Faraday has fast become one of the most interesting characters on this show.

[LOSTinFL]

I think Faraday's connection with Widmore is that Charles Widmore is his father. Would explain why Widmore "funded" all of Daniel's Time experiments. His mother, (Im betting)is Eloise Hawkins "Ellie" in the Jughead episode. That is why she looked so "familiar" to him when they were walking out to the Bomb. (Since Ellie and Young Widmore are in the same place together sort of makes sense to me). And Ellie is the young version of the woman helping Ben to get the O6 group back to the Island. (the same woman that Desmond is supposed to find in LA)

[littleb]

In the comic Con video Cheng says that the past must be changed or else all of these horrible events will happen. It is my belief that either Faraday was filming this video or he knows about the events that will happen in the future. So i think Faraday was crying becuase he knew that this was the start of the mission to go back to the island and change the past.

[littleredman]

Just had a thought. Perhaps it ties in with how Locke drew a picture of the Monster as a small boy.

It may have something to do with the fact that they are currently time travelling physically, but it has an overall effect on their memories throughout their entire life. Perhaps not a drastic effect, but a subtle subconscious and emotional effect.

[zebu-97]

How about this possibility then - what if, somehow, Faraday managed to go back in time and actually blew up Oceanic 815 to prevent it from ever reaching the island in an attempt to stop the time cycle of the plane crash and all of the other stuff that has happened since?

Think about it. If these events keep happening over and over again - like some kind of giant time loop - and he is trying to stop it and all of his other attempts have failed, like Desmond trying to keep Charlie from doing, only Daniel is trying to keep Oceanic 815 from the island in the first place so he blows it up in midair killing all of the passengers!

[littleb]

i like that theory Zebu.... I am convinced that Faraday already knew the events that would follow the crash and he probably knows what the future has in store for them.

I have a question, kinda related... if nose bleeds and the amount of time one has been on the island have a relationship, why is faraday not getting nose bleeds? was he actually time traveling in the scene where he was in the orchid and pretending to be part of the DI?

[Brother Desmond]

I have a question, kinda related... if nose bleeds and the amount of time one has been on the island have a relationship, why is faraday not getting nose bleeds? was he actually time traveling in the scene where he was in the orchid and pretending to be part of the DI?

Because we don't know for sure how long Daniel was on the Island, if he was on it at all. There is speculation that Faraday's mother is Ellie from the Jughead episode, but it isn't definite. We still don't know where Daniel was born, and how much time he has spent on the Island.

[zebu-97]

i like that theory Zebu.... I am convinced that Faraday already knew the events that would follow the crash and he probably knows what the future has in store for them.

I have a question, kinda related... if nose bleeds and the amount of time one has been on the island have a relationship, why is faraday not getting nose bleeds? was he actually time traveling in the scene where he was in the orchid and pretending to be part of the DI?

As far as Faraday being seen in the Orchid during construction, one would logically have to assume that he "infiltrated" the facility during one of the time jumps.

If, as it seems to be implied, that the onset of a nose bleed and headaches is determined your presence on the island then one would assume that Charlotte was there first, then Miles, then Juliette and eventually the Oceanic survivors will get it and finally (?) Daniel.

Finally, has anyone ever anagramed out Miles Strom's name? I mean come on, does he even LOOK like a "Miles Strom"? Maybe a Miles Ngyuen or even a Miles Nakamura, but Strom?? Of course an anagram of Strom is STORM so who knows if that is material or not?

[smthng2dowthlost]

mile's name comes from a similarity to the word malestrom they say it in the commentary for season 4