Do you think the island has been moved before?

[A.J. Hawk Fan]

What do you think?

[smthng2dowthlost]

I think most people would say yes because there are people off island that know about it and have been there but can't find it to get back (widmore)

[Doc]

Yes, the island has moved at least once since 1954. I do not believe it moved before 1954 because I Richard Albert did not understand the time travel concept, or at least pretended not to know, when Locke talked to him in 1954. The island was most likely moved around the time of the purge. Widmore might have been the one that moved the island and now he cannot get back.

[littleredman]

I think the island may have been moved before 1954, simply because the wheel was built for that very purpose.

It was Jacob who told Locke to move the island, so maybe he knew about it before Richard, years and years ago.

[Simon Blackrock]

i would say for sure it has been moved for thousands of years.the inscriptions or glyphs near the wheel must be ancient and is kind of an exciting concept.maybe pre dating the foot statue i think. my new theory is that the island is atlantis and is the reason for the disapearance of an island .;)

[Beckstabber]

I think the island is going through what Desmond went through in "The Constant" and needs to find it's constant to stop the time traveling. That's why the O6 have to come back, they are the islands constants.

[loadclr]

It was Jacob who told Locke to move the island...

Negative... Christian told Locke to move the island. We have no proof that Jacob was speaking through him. In fact, the only thing we know for sure is Locke heard Jacob say, "Help me." And even that can be debated...

[littleredman]

Negative... Christian told Locke to move the island. We have no proof that Jacob was speaking through him. In fact, the only thing we know for sure is Locke heard Jacob say, "Help me." And even that can be debated...

Oops. Sorry for the mistake.

That's interesting though.

[loadclr]

Oops. Sorry for the mistake.

That's interesting though.


No need for the sorry, friend...

This is how those shifty writers/producers do things - make us fans think one thing while they mean something entirely different.

[littleredman]

No need for the sorry, friend...

This is how those shifty writers/producers do things - make us fans think one thing while they mean something entirely different.

Indeed they do!

Perhaps a more interesting question is WHY was the island moved? The villainous freighter folk were already dead before Ben turned the wheel. Is it because someone knew more would be sent in there place? Was it to escape Widmore? If so, why? What would Widmore do to the island?

I'm a little confused here actually; correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Widmore or whomever send Keamy and him men to kidnap Ben and destroy the island? Doesn't Widmore want the island back? Does this imply Matthew Abbadon is not working for Widmore? But Faraday was funded by Widmore?

Argh, so many questions.

[loadclr]

I think the island was moved... Possibly many times.

The island is very old - the 4-toed statue - and I'm sure there have been wars over the seemingly magical properties thereof.

[skatertsol]

I think the island is going through what Desmond went through in "The Constant" and needs to find it's constant to stop the time traveling. That's why the O6 have to come back, they are the islands constants.

I totally dig that....I mean we really have no other indication WHY they island needs them back...it's their destiny etc....but the idea the ISLAND itself needs a constant would explain why they all have to go back, including Aaron, including the freezer burned Locke.

[loadclr]

I totally dig that....I mean we really have no other indication WHY they island needs them back...it's their destiny etc....but the idea the ISLAND itself needs a constant would explain why they all have to go back, including Aaron, including the freezer burned Locke.


I don't think it is "the island" that needs them back, well, at least not as a constant. I think it needs them back to fix/correct/finish a job/task.

Those people were on the island for a reason. I think they left for a reason. I think the wheel was turned for a reason...

I think all this happened so they could flash back to the DHARMA days and fix/stop something.

We've (meaning me) noticed at least one instance where the past has affected the future (Dan and Des) to bring about change...

Soon enough we will see what needs changin' and we'll see it can't be changed and the Lost story will start all over again w/ the island trying different things to change the future or outcome...

[Redeemed]

Long time lurker first time poster

I don’t think the island was ever moved before. We saw that the DI stopped drilling before they reached the space that the wheel was in, and Ben had to blow a hole through the wall/ rock to get to the wheel and so far we do not know of any other way to get to it.
I think the wheel was put there to anchor the island in one place (how ???) but I also think it may have to be turned in the opposite direction to stop the movements.
Just my thoughts, I’ve been in awl of how much the rest of you all have been able to figure out what’s been going on over the past years.

[Simon Blackrock]

i disagree. in the orchid video you see how uneducated and how new they were to this time travel stuff. he knew the wheel was there that is why he stopped. dharma was very well funded and probably a very advanced scientific team but the time travel they were novices i think or atleast at the time of that video they were still trying to master it.i dont think theyre interest was to move the island its self but to harness and use the power to move people.
but the island still has moved before for sure.probably many times.

[Nann]

I agree with you Simon, as far as the DI were concerned...I think they may have known about that and I also think that the four toed people did too and in fact maybe it was them that collapsed the stone around the wheel. This is pure speculation of course.
Correct me if I'm wrong but...
I seem to recall that they were drilling into a space, was there a cavern behind a stone wall.
Without watching that again I can't be sure. Which episode is that on? I'm going to ABC.com to watch it again.




Oh yeah and to answer the question....yes I think it was moved before, how else could you explain the Black Rock?

[Simon Blackrock]

bingo with the black rock idea.i agree with you the island materialised and the ship ended up where it lays now. i would say proof it has moved before.

and yes they were drilling and they broke a bunch of drill bits. one guy got hurt or sick.they bring the asian dharma guy and the worker shows the the picture of the radar image i guess.you can see if you look close the wheel within a hollow cavity.he knows they are close enough and stops the drilling.he says there is enough power to kill everyone and something about harnessing it for time travel.
and who happened to be there at that moment?
daniel faraday!

[5starboss]

i'd say its moved at least a handful of times. Even as a matter of last resort, a place like the Island will encounter dire straights.