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abcd1234
02-09-2009, 09:30 PM
so after ben turned the wheel, the time travelling began. locke sawyer, daniel etc. have been moving to the past at different points. but how much time has actually elapsed for them? it seems like a few days at the most. meanwhile the o6 have moved 3 years into the future. so when hawkings says they have 70 hours to get them all together is that because the time travellers are going to appear in 2009 for a brief amount of time, giving them the window to reunite? then are they going to be in 2009 or all go back to 2004?

littleredman
02-09-2009, 09:33 PM
so after ben turned the wheel, the time travelling began. locke sawyer, daniel etc. have been moving to the past at different points. but how much time has actually elapsed for them? it seems like a few days at the most. meanwhile the o6 have moved 3 years into the future. so when hawkings says they have 70 hours to get them all together is that because the time travellers are going to appear in 2009 for a brief amount of time, giving them the window to reunite? then are they going to be in 2009 or all go back to 2004?

Presumably something along these lines is going to happen, but I guess we can't be certain yet exactly what will happen in 70 hours.

notsolost42
02-09-2009, 09:37 PM
I think that they will kind of "hitch a ride" with the island through time to get there. They will have to catch it as it's time jumping I believe. As for what year they wind up on the island when all is said and done? Only the writers know for sure! LOL!!! I seem to think that they may be back either when 815 crashed or when Ben turned the wheel. I am leaning to when Ben turned the wheel.

littleredman
02-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Perhaps in order to straighten out their consciousnesses and avoid time sickness, the current Islanders (Sawyer, Locke etc) will have to stay on the island from the moment the wheel is turned, whereas the Oceanic 6 will have to return to the island in the present day.

It will then take three years before they are together again and can continue moving forward in time normally as one big group.

Who knows?

ortrules
02-09-2009, 09:41 PM
My thought is that the 70 hours Mrs. Hawking talked about was the point in time in which the island would flash to 2008 time where Jack and company are presently. After that 70 hours is up, the island will flash again and will never appear in the same time as the present O'6.

When the O'6 get back to the island, I think the island will go through a few more flashes until they figure out how to stop it. Once stopped, I think they will be back to the time right after Ben turned the wheel, or a few days later - like nothing ever happened.

Brother Desmond
02-09-2009, 09:41 PM
so after ben turned the wheel, the time travelling began. locke sawyer, daniel etc. have been moving to the past at different points. but how much time has actually elapsed for them? it seems like a few days at the most. meanwhile the o6 have moved 3 years into the future. so when hawkings says they have 70 hours to get them all together is that because the time travellers are going to appear in 2009 for a brief amount of time, giving them the window to reunite? then are they going to be in 2009 or all go back to 2004?

I think actual time that has elapsed for those on the Island is relative. Some flashes put them in the night hours. Sometimes they flash to day time. I don't think there is a way to gague exactly how much time has passed since the Island started skipping. My best guess would be a couple days, maybe 3.

As for the 70 hours, I'm guessing that is the time the Island flashes to the present, (the O'6's present), and will be the last opportunity for the O'6 to make it back to the Island.

SLOYAROLE™
02-09-2009, 09:58 PM
My personal theory is that the island will briefly appear in "3 years later time" or "2007 present time" (however you want to say it). Then, the island will shift back to freighter explosion, Ben turning the wheel, time (2004?) after the O6 are back on it.

islander
02-10-2009, 02:05 AM
As far as I can tell, the O6 cannot time travel so they will need to catch the island when it time travels to the spacetime of the O6. Mrs. Hawking is/has determined that point.

I can't tell if that is the easy part or the hard part. Are the O6 supposed to do something once they return to the island or is their presence there enough to stop the island's time traveling?

msmith92
02-10-2009, 02:15 PM
What correlation to the original Desmond Flash Incident and the Ben Wheel Flash Incident are there in regards to island time, if any?

islander
02-10-2009, 02:33 PM
What correlation to the original Desmond Flash Incident and the Ben Wheel Flash Incident are there in regards to island time, if any?

Do you mean when Des turned the 'key'? If so, it seemed Des time traveled but the island time didn't change, but I could be wrong about that.

It seems the island has been jumping around since Ben turned the wheel and the O6 left. How there is now a 3 year time difference kind of snuck up on me. I guess a couple days here, and a couple days there, and they add up? LOL

I don't know that there is any correlation, but maybe someone else sees something else.

dmbtrip2004
02-10-2009, 02:44 PM
this is my first post, so go easy on me..but has anyone considered how the 06 will get back to the island?.....maybe in 70 hours the island is going to time jump to when the plane crashed and the 06 might need to be on that plane heading back to that same spot??

islander
02-10-2009, 02:57 PM
this is my first post, so go easy on me..but has anyone considered how the 06 will get back to the island?.....maybe in 70 hours the island is going to time jump to when the plane crashed and the 06 might need to be on that plane heading back to that same spot??

Great...your first post and you ask like the most difficult question bouncing around right now....LOL....and welcome...:D

I'm thinking the O6 cannot time travel so they need to meet the island when it appears in their spacetime which seems to be Mrs. Hawking's mission. Another plane crash would be quick considering there's not a lot of time. I was thinking Penny's boat might come in handy for this trip, but 70 hours isn't a lot of time for that so I dunno.

dmbtrip2004
02-10-2009, 03:17 PM
the boat theory might work, as Ben and the 06 are presumably meeting at a dock...right?

islander
02-10-2009, 03:22 PM
the boat theory might work, as Ben and the 06 are presumably meeting at a dock...right?

Yup, but a dock in LA which seems pretty far away. I never bought the whole submarine theory so maybe there is a more techie way to get to the island than we know about right now.

abcd1234
02-10-2009, 03:27 PM
maybe a helicopter...flown by lapedus??

littleredman
02-10-2009, 03:37 PM
The Ajira Airways water bottle is possibly a key to the mode of their transport, but who trashed the camp and drank all the beer?

Do some undesirable folk tag along with the O6?

abcd1234
02-10-2009, 05:28 PM
http://www.beastiemania.com/qa/images/FFYRTP/Ffyrtp21.jpg

dmbtrip2004
02-10-2009, 05:28 PM
that would go along with my airplane theory...but where does the canoe come in???

370662
02-10-2009, 07:47 PM
perhaps yes the oceanic six will return to the island when it flashes into their time (as mrs hawkins was determining), so although the oceanic six will be off the island for 3 years the survivors will see them again perhaps a week after they 'left'.

oh and desmond is on the way to LA in his boat to see faraday's mum (who i think is mrs hawkings), so perhaps he'll do his shizz then give them a ridee to the island!

exciting stuffff