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rock-lobster
02-10-2009, 09:21 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm predicting that Daniel is lying about not being able to do anything that hasn't been done.

His intent? Who knows. Maybe for something sneaky, most likely just because he thinks that if someone doesn't fully understand what they're tampering with in the past that it may cause some huge problems.

Daniel says that if something didn't happen the first time then it can't when they go back in time.

This just doesn't make sense at all. It would have to mean that the FIRST time history happened, Jin met Rousseau, before he had ever been to the island. Meaning, that the effect happened before the cause. Impossible.

It's as big or bigger of a paradox that someone exists in a place or time they're not supposed to exist in in the first place, as it is to interact with somebody or something you "didn't the first time."

I'm aware that this means that they can change the future and of course there are logical problems with this, but far less than the other option. It's LOST, you can create some paradoxes if you want.

Remember, they're time-traveling, which in itself, I would consider to be quite a paradox.

This is probably a stupid theory, but I've been thinking that towards the end of the series somebody will do something to prevent 815 from finding the island, and that will lead to the 815 flight that was found at the bottom of the ocean.

littleredman
02-10-2009, 09:27 PM
Perhaps, but I'm not sure. He did seem to be unsure or not whether it was going to work when he banged on Desmond's door...

Unbridled Pageantry
02-10-2009, 09:55 PM
Perhaps, but I'm not sure. He did seem to be unsure or not whether it was going to work when he banged on Desmond's door...

I took his nervousness more as him wondering who the hell would be opening the door.
Faraday had no idea if it was Desmond in there or not, because they had no idea what year it was. It could have been Kelvin, Radzinski, or any number of past Dharmites that could have opened the door.

ortrules
02-10-2009, 10:12 PM
Dan isn't the first person to discuss time travel on this show. Mrs. Hawking was, and she said almost exactly the same thing that Dan said. Pierre Chang even scoffed at that guy who mentioned going back in time to kill Hitler, because he said there are certain rules you have to follow.

I don't believe Dan is lying to us. He may not be telling us the whole truth, but he's not lying.

Brother Desmond
02-10-2009, 11:22 PM
Daniel says that if something didn't happen the first time then it can't when they go back in time.

This just doesn't make sense at all. It would have to mean that the FIRST time history happened, Jin met Rousseau, before he had ever been to the island. Meaning, that the effect happened before the cause. Impossible.

Jin didn't meet Danielle before he had ever been to the Island. He crashed on the Island September 22, 2004. He was on the Island for 3 or 4 months until it was moved, and began skipping in time with it. One of the flashes happened to bring him to the time when Danielle and her team arrived on the Island. Yes, the time period was before 2004, but Jin was already on the Island, and moved back in time with it. We saw the recognition on his face when he learned Danielle's name. If that was the first time they met, he wouldn't have recognized her.