Smoke Monster..WOW!!!

[MrEchoLives]

So the smoke monster infected Rousseous crew, so she had to kill them.. That was the most interesting scene featuring the smoke monster yet. It took over thier bodies.

[littleb]

well it is clear that smokey killed most of them, but roussau thought the last guy was going crazy, but in fact he was telling the truth!

[mahalo_dude]

I wouldn't say it took over their bodies. Who knows how they were turned. But that's the closest explanation to date.:cool:

[sj256]

well it is clear that smokey killed most of them, but roussau thought the last guy was going crazy, but in fact he was telling the truth!

how was it clear that the monster killed them? It looked to me as if she had shot them.

and the last guy appeared to be somehow under the influence of the temple/monster, why else would he pull the trigger?

[weldonryckman]

that doesn't make sense to me at all. and it seems we won't find out what really happened to them unless they flash back in time to that point. just doesn't add up to me. clearly robert and company that went under the temple changed somehow. he tried to kill danielle too, after pleading for his life. all very strange.

[A.J. Hawk Fan]

Hmm... "It was just a system protector (forgot the wording) for the temple." hmmm... whats the temple?

[greatgodone]

maybe its the same temple that ben sent the others to.

[islander]

We've heard that smokie is a security system before. Didn't Juliet tell that to Kate? Although I believe Juliet called smokie a security system for the "island" not the "temple". Maybe they are one in the same.

[Brother Desmond]

Hmm... "It was just a system protector (forgot the wording) for the temple." hmmm... whats the temple?

The Temple is where Ben sent the rest of the Others before the wheel was turned. He described the Temple as a sanctuary. And now appears the smoke monster is the security system that protects the Temple.

[Baibe]

well it is clear that smokey killed most of them, but roussau thought the last guy was going crazy, but in fact he was telling the truth!
The 2 dead guys were shot.. I think by Rousseau. That doesn't seem right because the last guy tried to shot her.

[WhalerDO]

that doesn't make sense to me at all. and it seems we won't find out what really happened to them unless they flash back in time to that point. just doesn't add up to me. clearly robert and company that went under the temple changed somehow. he tried to kill danielle too, after pleading for his life. all very strange.


Remeber back to Season 1 when Daniel captured Sayid, and he escaped with the other gun. Sayid tried to shoot Daniel with it, but it didn't work and she told Sayid that he (Robert..Alex's real dad) had tried to use it as well, and before realizing that Daniel removed the pin and before she shot and killed him as well. However, it will be interesting to see if we get a further explanition to what exactly was the sickness other than they were compromised by Smokey, who apparently somehow told Daniel's team that he (smokey) was the Temple's secruity system. Again this was one of the nuggets from tonights show i think....Smokey isn't the secruity system of the island but rather the Temple!

[A.J. Hawk Fan]

The Temple is where Ben sent the rest of the Others before the wheel was turned. He described the Temple as a sanctuary. And now appears the smoke monster is the security system that protects the Temple.So do you think they will show more about the temple now? And you enter the temple by going through that tiny hole with scriptures by it(whats up with that?).

What's so important about this temple besides being a sanctuary. Possibly the "box" or jacobs permanent residence?

[MrEchoLives]

i thought the smoke monster infected the guys.I mean it was pretty clear that the monster really did alot of damage to the one guy(ripping the arm off),yet the guy was in the whole saying 'no i'm alright,just come get me' ??? No i think that was the monster mimicking the guys to lure the others. At which point he infected them also leading to Dannielle having to shoot them

[LOSTLOST]

So do you think they will show more about the temple now? And you enter the temple by going through that tiny hole with scriptures by it(whats up with that?).

What's so important about this temple besides being a sanctuary. Possibly the "box" or jacobs permanent residence?
Well obviously it is really important if the smokie is protecting it

[clight01]

Did I totally get it wrong? I thought the guy about to shoot Rousseau was actually one of the dead bodies on the beach seen a few seconds before. I was thinking that Smokie actually killed him (and other guy), and then appeared to Rousseau in his body. It was making me think who knows who else we have seen that is just smokie inhabiting a body.

[MrEchoLives]

Did I totally get it wrong? I thought the guy about to shoot Rousseau was actually one of the dead bodies on the beach seen a few seconds before. I was thinking that Smokie actually killed him (and other guy), and then appeared to Rousseau in his body. It was making me think who knows who else we have seen that is just smokie inhabiting a body.

maybe back in season 2 it happened to YEMI's body when he appeared to EKO ????

[greatgodone]

yemi was the smoke monster. remember yemi said to eko "you speak to me as if i was your brother" then turned into smokey and killed him

[A.J. Hawk Fan]

yemi was the smoke monster. remember yemi said to eko "you speak to me as if i was your brother" then turned into smokey and killed himwho is yemi? eko's brother?

[LOSTLOST]

we never saw the smoke monster turn into yemi or viseversa. I think it was an illusion

[MrEchoLives]

So the smoke monster takes dead bodies and fills them with his prescence and mimcks thier voices. Wow. Thats pretty cool tidbit

[Jeremy]

I think this is the same thing that's going on with "Christian".

[mahalo_dude]

who is yemi? eko's brother?

Yes. We primarily see him in flashbacks.

[LissaMarie]

Did I totally get it wrong? I thought the guy about to shoot Rousseau was actually one of the dead bodies on the beach seen a few seconds before. I was thinking that Smokie actually killed him (and other guy), and then appeared to Rousseau in his body. It was making me think who knows who else we have seen that is just smokie inhabiting a body.

That's what stood out to me too. All 3 of them (the 2 bodies and Robert) all looked the same...dark hair and beards. That was strange?!

[MrEchoLives]

I think this is the same thing that's going on with "Christian".

Possibilty. Although i tend to think that Christian is just a ghost of some sort. Notice when Locke asked him for help up ,chrsistian said"sorry i cant do that" ..Maybe he meant literally he cant physically help Locke because hes just a ghost

[Jeremy]

Possibilty. Although i tend to think that Christian is just a ghost of some sort. Notice when Locke asked him for help up ,chrsistian said"sorry i cant do that" ..Maybe he meant literally he cant physically help Locke because hes just a ghost

Maybe...but perhaps the smoke monster can only physically do anything when it's actually made of smoke? 'Taller ghost Walt' didn't seem to help Locke out of the ditch in Through the Looking Glass, and I believe it was confirmed that that was actually smokie.

It's all so confusing.

[LissaMarie]

Maybe...but perhaps the smoke monster can only physically do anything when it's actually made of smoke? 'Taller ghost Walt' didn't seem to help Locke out of the ditch in Through the Looking Glass, and I believe it was confirmed that that was actually smokie.

It's all so confusing.


Amen, Jeremy! I have a smoke monster coming out of my ears! These writers are evil geniuses and I have a Lost hangover!:p

[kobefan234]

the same temple Richard was leading his people to

[DriveShaft]

I really think the episode explained it all guys. Gotta remember, LOST is not trying to trick fans, they still have millions of fans that don't analyze everything

Guy gets sucked in, his arms get ripped off. But a few seconds later he is down there, saying he is okay. Clearly smoke monster took over him and was trying to get others to come down.

Others do come down, they also get taken control over.

Danielle realizes this because of their strange behavior. She shoots two of them, she tells Sayid this in season 1. She shot all of them, smokey did not kill them.

They have beards cause they have been on the island for a couple more months.

The guy clearly had a connection with the monster and was not himself anymore. That is why she shot him

The smoke monster did the same thing with Echo's brother Yemi.

[abcd1234]

I dont think the smoke monster possesses people, I think it brought those people down into the temple, where they probably encountered hostiles. When they said the monster was a defense system, it seemed like that was a stock answer. maybe the temple is where others are brought to be brainwashed and given their talents, learn latin, get covered in whispers, and are fitted for tattered clothes.

[bunnydixon]

I really think the episode explained it all guys. Gotta remember, LOST is not trying to trick fans, they still have millions of fans that don't analyze everything

Guy gets sucked in, his arms get ripped off. But a few seconds later he is down there, saying he is okay. Clearly smoke monster took over him and was trying to get others to come down.

Others do come down, they also get taken control over.

Danielle realizes this because of their strange behavior. She shoots two of them, she tells Sayid this in season 1. She shot all of them, smokey did not kill them.

They have beards cause they have been on the island for a couple more months.

The guy clearly had a connection with the monster and was not himself anymore. That is why she shot him

The smoke monster did the same thing with Echo's brother Yemi.


i dont think a couple of months had passed - that arm did not look 2 months worth of rot lol and danielle would have most likely given birth by that point or be fit to pop and her bump looked the same as it did at 7 months.

[MrEchoLives]

I dont think the smoke monster possesses people, I think it brought those people down into the temple, where they probably encountered hostiles. When they said the monster was a defense system, it seemed like that was a stock answer. maybe the temple is where others are brought to be brainwashed and given their talents, learn latin, get covered in whispers, and are fitted for tattered clothes.

I cant imagine that a guy would be brutally sucked down into that hole,have his arm ripped off, then come out 30 seconds later and say "its ok guys,come get me. Im just hurt" in a very calm voice .. I took that as smokie speaking using his body and voice.

[BriGuy0419]

well it is clear that smokey killed most of them, but roussau thought the last guy was going crazy, but in fact he was telling the truth!

How was he telling the truth? The last guy (her boyfriend,husband,wutever) tried to kill her when she put her gun down but his gun ended up jamming or wasn't loaded. Thats when she picked her gun back up and shot him.

[Mr. Muggles]

The 2 dead guys were shot.. I think by Rousseau. That doesn't seem right because the last guy tried to shot her.

Yeah, They probably could have been influenced by the smoke monster, but my question is... what is inside that temple. And how is Ben able to summon the monster.

[dmbtrip2004]

didnt Ben disappear from one of the houses on the island back into some chamber and summon the monster to destroy the soilders attacking them...that wasnt anywhere close to the temple I am assuming...

[notsolost42]

I'm gonna break it to ya all gently. The smoke monster and Richard Alpert are one in the same....just think about it for a minute....
You heard it hear second...because I've posted it once before! LOL!!!

[zwishmaster]

I'm gonna break it to ya all gently. The smoke monster and Richard Alpert are one in the same....just think about it for a minute....
You heard it hear second...because I've posted it once before! LOL!!!

This is kind of like that one steven king book. I forgot what it was called but its about an old ancient spirit that can take over bodies of people and animals. the spirits name is TAK and he takes out a whole town. kinda like smokie.

[Mr. Muggles]

didnt Ben disappear from one of the houses on the island back into some chamber and summon the monster to destroy the soilders attacking them...that wasnt anywhere close to the temple I am assuming...

Same question I have. I wonder if the remains of Jacob are inside there, or maybe Jacob is trapped in there.

[rochnative]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Danielle tell Sayid that the others had taken the rest of her crew, not an illness? I know she said they came for Alex on the night of the black smoke (I thought it was that night when Jin jumped, only to find out that that particular smoke came from their campfire), but didn't she say the others were involved prior to their absconding with Alex? Perhaps Ben was right, Danielle is just a crazy woman who ended up murdering her entire crew. We only assume from the episode last night that the rest of her crew was acting strange. Maybe she was the one going crazy. The last one she shot maybe only tried to shoot her because he knew she killed the rest of their crew and was eventually going to kill him. Plus, the others only took visitors of the island who were worthy. Clearly a crazy woman was not worthy which is why they took her daughter and not her.

[Mr. Muggles]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Danielle tell Sayid that the others had taken the rest of her crew, not an illness? I know she said they came for Alex on the night of the black smoke (I thought it was that night when Jin jumped, only to find out that that particular smoke came from their campfire), but didn't she say the others were involved prior to their absconding with Alex? Perhaps Ben was right, Danielle is just a crazy woman who ended up murdering her entire crew. We only assume from the episode last night that the rest of her crew was acting strange. Maybe she was the one going crazy. The last one she shot maybe only tried to shoot her because he knew she killed the rest of their crew and was eventually going to kill him. Plus, the others only took visitors of the island who were worthy. Clearly a crazy woman was not worthy which is why they took her daughter and not her.



I can't recall, but I'm sure Danielle said that she killed her crew.

[Lieutenant Dan]

we never saw the smoke monster turn into yemi or viseversa. I think it was an illusion

I thought the producers of the show confirmed that the smoke can physically manifest itself into people....aka yemi.

[notsolost42]

This is kind of like that one steven king book. I forgot what it was called but its about an old ancient spirit that can take over bodies of people and animals. the spirits name is TAK and he takes out a whole town. kinda like smokie.

The Stand? That great 6 hour long epic? It has been referenced many times on Lost and Damen has said he is a huge King fan.
I think the smoke monster taking the form of other people is more like It, when the evil spirit takes the form of a clown and calls to everyone to come down there with him. Bad ending though. Turned out to be some honking giant spider. Real let down for me.

[aliramaliu]

Smokie is the "security system". Apparently the Temple is a very special place. What it is is a mystery like most things. We will most likely find out more later??

[zwishmaster]

The Stand? That great 6 hour long epic? It has been referenced many times on Lost and Damen has said he is a huge King fan.
I think the smoke monster taking the form of other people is more like It, when the evil spirit takes the form of a clown and calls to everyone to come down there with him. Bad ending though. Turned out to be some honking giant spider. Real let down for me.

not the standing, same concept though. it starts off with a cop framing people with marijuana and throwing them in jail because tak(the evil spirit) can only stay in a certain body for so long so he locks them up as backup "hosts".

[5starboss]

Smokie a djinn, anyone? ( genie) Apparently he doen't discriminate--man, women, black, white, french, whatever.....he'll slam you into the ground. He looked to have "escaped"or"broken out" from the Temple. He doesn't just come and go thru the front door. And it looks like the cerebrus vents might all lead to the Temple.

What would have happened to Locke if Smokie would have pulled him in that 1 time?

[Baibe]

I'm gonna break it to ya all gently. The smoke monster and Richard Alpert are one in the same....just think about it for a minute....
You heard it hear second...because I've posted it once before! LOL!!!
Can u post that link.. I'd love to read it.

[Baibe]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Danielle tell Sayid that the others had taken the rest of her crew, not an illness? I know she said they came for Alex on the night of the black smoke (I thought it was that night when Jin jumped, only to find out that that particular smoke came from their campfire), but didn't she say the others were involved prior to their absconding with Alex? Perhaps Ben was right, Danielle is just a crazy woman who ended up murdering her entire crew. We only assume from the episode last night that the rest of her crew was acting strange. Maybe she was the one going crazy. The last one she shot maybe only tried to shoot her because he knew she killed the rest of their crew and was eventually going to kill him. Plus, the others only took visitors of the island who were worthy. Clearly a crazy woman was not worthy which is why they took her daughter and not her.
If she was so crazy why not just kill her when they take Alex in case she came back and caused trouble.

[StormyKnight]

Possibilty. Although i tend to think that Christian is just a ghost of some sort. Notice when Locke asked him for help up ,chrsistian said"sorry i cant do that" ..Maybe he meant literally he cant physically help Locke because hes just a ghost


Then how was he holding Aaron by the fire when Claire woke up?

[abcd1234]

So you think the smoke monster is also christian shepard, and I guess anna lucia and charlie too? no wait I forgot christian is jacob. oh no wait wait the dog is jacob... am I getting this right?

I dont see how the smoke monster goes into people's bodies and controls them that doesnt make sense.

I do think its possible richard has a connection to the smoke, but I dont know they are one in the same. when ben went into the closet room he probably somehow contacted richard at the temple, who then released the smoke thing

[StormyKnight]

Danielle did tell Sayid that she killed her crew and that they had come down with an illness (sickness). I'm presuming that for lack of a better term that's the best she can describe it. Smokie obviously had an effect on her crew that she [and we] could plainly see.
She also told Sayid that she had removed the firing pin from Robert's gun just as she did to the one Sayid found in her 'home'.
Danielle is NOT crazy! You are basing this assumption on Ben's word and Sayid's brief observations but think about it. She warned that the Others were coming for the child. She misunderstood which child but she was right. Taking Aaron to trade for her own child is not crazy- extreme, yes but what would you do for your child after 16 years of separation? She tried to help Claire when she escaped from Ethan. She knew how to rig the dynamite to defend everyone against the Others. She has her own agenda but who on the island doesn't to some degree? She has been able to protect herself against bears and the Others for 16 years. She obviously agrees that Smokie is a security system and it leaves her alone as long as she watches her step. We've never seen her provoke Smokie and she must have figured over the years that it could come get her any time it wanted. She may be a little paranoid but I wouldn't say she's crazy. Take Christian's advice to John and stop listening to Ben!

[losttime]

we never saw the smoke monster turn into yemi or viseversa. I think it was an illusion

If I am not mistaking the TPTB confirmed that the Smoke Monster presented itself as Yemi to Eko

[notsolost42]

But it seems now they are playing us a little. Damen Lindeloff said something to the effect of "Well, you know what happens to dead people on the island" when asked about John Locke being reincarnated. So, it's anyones guess!

[abcd1234]

I think that steven king book is "desperation"

[zwishmaster]

I think that steven king book is "desperation"

ding ding ding we have a winner. thanks

[lostie108]

I'm gonna break it to ya all gently. The smoke monster and Richard Alpert are one in the same....just think about it for a minute....
You heard it hear second...because I've posted it once before! LOL!!!
hey notso you gotta explain this one for me . i will look around to see if you already have but i like this theory

[notsolost42]

hey notso you gotta explain this one for me . i will look around to see if you already have but i like this theory

I've only made reference to this once before mostly in a joking way but I had a little spark in my brain about it. Now, with things we've seen, I think it may really be something. Especially if Alpert is from Egypt by way of Tunisia with the ancients. I was watching something on the history channel about mummies real late last night. An Egyptologist said that they buried the dead to continue on in the next life because the Egyptians believed you do not die. Well, look how old Richard is? We don't know. Look at the glyphs all over the island. Look at the fact that he is really the pseudo leader of the Others not second in command. Think about the fact that it is Richard as Ben said, that will teach Locke all of the secrets of the island. How does he know all the secrets? Look at the fact that we have seen almost everyone else have some form of interaction with the smoke monster...except Richard. It's just a thought but it may really pan out to be something.

[natego]

I Hi-Fived Stephen King at a Red Sox game at Fenway Park.

haha

[lostie108]

Possibilty. Although i tend to think that Christian is just a ghost of some sort. Notice when Locke asked him for help up ,chrsistian said"sorry i cant do that" ..Maybe he meant literally he cant physically help Locke because hes just a ghost

i have a question if christian is a ghost and this is why he can't help john . how is it that he was able to hold claires baby and hold a lantern in the wheel room ?

[lostie108]

I've only made reference to this once before mostly in a joking way but I had a little spark in my brain about it. Now, with things we've seen, I think it may really be something. Especially if Alpert is from Egypt by way of Tunisia with the ancients. I was watching something on the history channel about mummies real late last night. An Egyptologist said that they buried the dead to continue on in the next life because the Egyptians believed you do not die. Well, look how old Richard is? We don't know. Look at the glyphs all over the island. Look at the fact that he is really the pseudo leader of the Others not second in command. Think about the fact that it is Richard as Ben said, that will teach Locke all of the secrets of the island. How does he know all the secrets? Look at the fact that we have seen almost everyone else have some form of interaction with the smoke monster...except Richard. It's just a thought but it may really pan out to be something.
ok well you have done you thinking as usual and i commend you for that . it is very far fetched but i like those type of ideas , so maybe it is not as far fetched as i am making it out to be . great thought . i cant wait to see . how have you been , good i hope .

[notsolost42]

ok well you have done you thinking as usual and i commend you for that . it is very far fetched but i like those type of ideas , so maybe it is not as far fetched as i am making it out to be . great thought . i cant wait to see . how have you been , good i hope .

I do have one wild imagination, that's for sure. I am a dangerous combination of sci-fi freak for about a million years, real science geek, and writer at heart! What a combo for this show, eh?
I've been good. How about you?

[lostie108]

I do have one wild imagination, that's for sure. I am a dangerous combination of sci-fi freak for about a million years, real science geek, and writer at heart! What a combo for this show, eh?
I've been good. How about you?

i have been good also . thanks for asking . and yes that is a dangerous combo for this show . last night when ben told sun he would take her to someone that would prove for her that jin is alive i totally thought john was going to show up and be alive . but damn it just the ring . my question is why does ben have this i mean jin gave it to john . so if john is dead this leads me to believe ben was behind his death . does that make sense to you . i still believe him to be alive though . ha

[DTW]

Did anyone notice the noise that the smoke made? Almost sounded like a rollercoaster chain, it sounded so mechanical. Strange sounds for smoke.

[00sco200]

I Think Smokey Erases The Memorys Of The People It Captures, And Mabey It Had Captured Faraday, Charlotte And Others Who Had Been On The Island Previously, This Is Why They Cant Remember Actually Being On The Island Before The Plane Crash Or The Freighter Team Arrieved.

[00sco200]

Did anyone notice the noise that the smoke made? Almost sounded like a rollercoaster chain, it sounded so mechanical. Strange sounds for smoke.

yeah that was weird, its been used since the start though

[losttime]

All I can say is Smokey is the coolest thing ever.

[MrEchoLives]

i have a question if christian is a ghost and this is why he can't help john . how is it that he was able to hold claires baby and hold a lantern in the wheel room ?
Maybe it has something to do with the cabin. Maybe the cabin is the domain for him.The cabin is kinda mystical also

[Dr. Thomas Werner Mittelw]

Its tough to say right now, but I think its safe to assume that smokey either uses possession of some sort to control bodies, or my own theory: it manipulates them and tricks them by speaking to them inside their heads and drives them mad untill they do as smokey wishes or sees fit. Just a guess but time will tell

[Workman]

Smokey has an ability that reminds me of the aliens in Independence Day or in The Dream Catcher. When contacted, they can speak and act through them. Or even like a collector of souls. Smokey rounds up the souls of the wicked (hence the blackness). Very intriguing character to have. One that never talks, feels, etc...Just is. Terrific!

[Dr. Thomas Werner Mittelw]

Smokey has an ability that reminds me of the aliens in Independence Day or in The Dream Catcher. When contacted, they can speak and act through them. Or even like a collector of souls. Smokey rounds up the souls of the wicked (hence the blackness). Very intriguing character to have. One that never talks, feels, etc...Just is. Terrific!

Yeah I made the same connections myself, but I think it's more of a mechanism or organic/supernatural device rather than a character. I think it's purpose in the storyline is to speed up the process of elimination as well as explain or account for later on why certain things werent discovered or found earlier, which I'm guessing will be explained as the smoke prevented survivors from being too adventerous in the beginning of this big adventure lol if that makes sense to anyone:)

[Amp]

wouldnt it be epic if the finale was smokie consuming the island!!

[5starboss]

Did anyone notice the noise that the smoke made? Almost sounded like a rollercoaster chain, it sounded so mechanical. Strange sounds for smoke.

I've also noticed the echoing howl sounds like a Star Wars speeder bike. one of these:

[5starboss]

Remember Juiliette's brand on the small of her back? It looks like a Hyroglyphic similar to the ones on the Temple, FDW cave, etc... So, during the episode when Smokie was chasing Kate and Juilette ( they were handcuffed just before) thru the woods didn't he "scan/flash" them? Could the brand have been sometype of info for Smokie?

[Brother Desmond]

i have a question if christian is a ghost and this is why he can't help john . how is it that he was able to hold claires baby and hold a lantern in the wheel room ?

We don't know for sure that Christian couldn't help John because he couldn't touch him. Christian refusing to help John could have been his way of telling John he needs to do this himself, without aid. Because like you said, we have seen Christian holding things, so I don't see why he wouldn't be physically capable of helping John up.

[notsolost42]

We don't know for sure that Christian couldn't help John because he couldn't touch him. Christian refusing to help John could have been his way of telling John he needs to do this himself, without aid. Because like you said, we have seen Christian holding things, so I don't see why he would be physically capable of helping John up.

Exactly, and Christian also said that the time jumps were occuring because Jacob told John HE had to move the island and Ben did it. That was what caused the issues. John has to do it by himself.

[Don't Have The Map]

When Jin Time jumped, the arm of the guy that was dragged into the temple looked very decayed.

Yet when he saw Rouseau again at the beach she was still pregnant.

Did Jin time jump again before reaching the beach?

or did Rouseau get pregnant again?

[notsolost42]

When Jin Time jumped, the arm of the guy that was dragged into the temple looked very decayed.

Yet when he saw Rouseau again at the beach she was still pregnant.

Did Jin time jump again before reaching the beach?

or did Rouseau get pregnant again?

No, as a matter of fact, the arm was not very decayed at all and it makes perfect sense that it was only a few months into the future from the time the "incident" occured.
Not to get too graphic, but the flesh was merely discolored and the fabric of the shirt was not very decayed at all. There didn't seem to be very much damage from either animals or insects to the flesh either. (Professional training)

[natego]

When Jin Time jumped, the arm of the guy that was dragged into the temple looked very decayed.

Yet when he saw Rouseau again at the beach she was still pregnant.

Did Jin time jump again before reaching the beach?

or did Rouseau get pregnant again?

Don't think she got pregnant again.. unless the survivors were REEEALLY desperate and maybe had too much Dharma Beer to drink hahahaha

[5starboss]

When Jin Time jumped, the arm of the guy that was dragged into the temple looked very decayed.

Yet when he saw Rouseau again at the beach she was still pregnant.

Did Jin time jump again before reaching the beach?

or did Rouseau get pregnant again?

It looked bad at 1st because it was an arm. An arm without a shoulder or person attatched to it. It actually wasn't decayed that badly.

[Missie]

I didnt read this whole thread, but I thought Id clear up a little confusion about Yemi. It was confirmed that he was in fact a manifestation of the smoke monster. So was Walt, and the mudusa spidars that bit Nikki. With that being said, it makes perfect sense that smoke monster took the form of Rou's men.
Also... if it was the smoke monster in the form of her Honey that told Rou that it was a secrurity system for the temple then Im not sure we can trust it was telling the entire truth. Obviously it much more then that.

[abcd1234]

it doesnt make sense the smoke monster took the form of the french team, because reassou shot them and they died. I dont think anything would have happened if she had shot the monster.

[Brother Desmond]

it doesnt make sense the smoke monster took the form of the french team, because reassou shot them and they died. I dont think anything would have happened if she had shot the monster.

No, nothing would be accomplished by shooting the smoke monster. That being said, the smoke monster wasn't in it's true form when the french team was shot, therefore the body it was posing as could be damaged.

This is of course if the smoke monster was inside the french team at all. It is possible that the smoke monster changed the team in some way, and wasn't physically inside of them when they were shot.

[chris197337]

This is kind of like that one steven king book. I forgot what it was called but its about an old ancient spirit that can take over bodies of people and animals. the spirits name is TAK and he takes out a whole town. kinda like smokie.

Surely the fact that we've seen Richard off the island would cast this idea in to doubt?

Unless he has smokie powers on the island I suppose.