Did Jin Change the future

[Lostfornow]

Did Jin change the future bye stopping Danielle from going down Smokies hole with her friends to help the one who was screaming for them to help him, she would of been right behind them if Jin did not stop her.

[ortrules]

Jin did not change the future because Rousseau's story matches with what we saw. For whatever reason, she didn't go with her crew and didn't get the "sickness".

Now, some people (such as myself) will say that Jin was always responsible for saving Rousseau. Essentially, whatever happened always happened.

Others will say that Jin did not always save her, but for whatever reason she didn't go with her crew the first time. When Jin showed up the island course corrected to have Jin save her, but he didn't actually change anything since Danielle always went through the same motions. In this case, it was the same result (her not following her crew) under different circumstances.

[yokogleeton]

Jin did not change the future because Rousseau's story matches with what we saw. For whatever reason, she didn't go with her crew and didn't get the "sickness".

Now, some people (such as myself) will say that Jin was always responsible for saving Rousseau. Essentially, whatever happened always happened.

Others will say that Jin did not always save her, but for whatever reason she didn't go with her crew the first time. When Jin showed up the island course corrected to have Jin save her, but he didn't actually change anything since Danielle always went through the same motions. In this case, it was the same result (her not following her crew) under different circumstances.

Well, you disagree with me on the "jin was always responsible" debate, but your last sentence sums up what i've been trying to say this whole time. So, thank you.

[navyguy]

No No No....for The Thousandth Time No!!!!! What Happens Has Always Happened. Time Loop!!!!!! Desmond Is The Only One That Has Special Circumstances.

[yokogleeton]

No No No....for The Thousandth Time No!!!!! What Happens Has Always Happened. Time Loop!!!!!! Desmond Is The Only One That Has Special Circumstances.

Do you think it's possible Daniel Faraday has also figured out (or will figure out) how to make changes himself?


I do.

[ortrules]

Well, you disagree with me on the "jin was always responsible" debate, but your last sentence sums up what i've been trying to say this whole time. So, thank you.

Glad I could help out. :p

But now this means you owe me. And that you're wrong. :D

[yokogleeton]

Glad I could help out. :p

But now this means you owe me. And that you're wrong. :D

Noted....and we'll see.

[ortrules]

Noted....and we'll see.

We will. No one can really say for certain at this point - and anyone who does is going to look like an idiot if they're wrong (navyguy :p).

[ImagoDei]

No No No....for The Thousandth Time No!!!!! What Happens Has Always Happened. Time Loop!!!!!! Desmond Is The Only One That Has Special Circumstances.

I disagree as well... The writers of lost are pretty scientific even if they do strech it. There has to be a first time something happens before the loop can take place. Sure, once that happens for the first time it becomes a time loop, but there is always a first time. I dont think Desmond is the only one who is special. I just think he was the special one to them at that time because he was off the island and could do something about their situation.

[rock-lobster]

No No No....for The Thousandth Time No!!!!! What Happens Has Always Happened. Time Loop!!!!!! Desmond Is The Only One That Has Special Circumstances.

this is not yet proven and could very well be either a lie or simply wrong.

[bearcatb7]

I have a question. I didnt understand when the time flash came while Jin was persuading Rousseau at the temple, didnt Jin end up at the Losties camp. but around the corner was Rousseau and the other guy. Why didnt Rousseau disapear if they were back around the current time.

Sorry i didnt explain that better

[rock-lobster]

I disagree as well... The writers of lost are pretty scientific even if they do strech it. There has to be a first time something happens before the loop can take place. Sure, once that happens for the first time it becomes a time loop, but there is always a first time. I dont think Desmond is the only one who is special. I just think he was the special one to them at that time because he was off the island and could do something about their situation.

well put! that makes a whole lot more sense than the time loop with no beginning thing. if you think about a train getting on a track and going in a circle for eternity, it doesn't matter how you look at it, it's got to be put on the track the first time. it wasn't always on the track.

[ImagoDei]

I have a question. I didnt understand when the time flash came while Jin was persuading Rousseau at the temple, didnt Jin end up at the Losties camp. but around the corner was Rousseau and the other guy. Why didnt Rousseau disapear if they were back around the current time.

Sorry i didnt explain that better


It was a small time jump probibly a week or so.

That was D Rousseau's makeshift camp. In the spoiler section a couple weeks ago someone had taken pictures of that setup in Hawaii and mentioned that it was her camp from when she arived on the island.

[littleredman]

well put! that makes a whole lot more sense than the time loop with no beginning thing. if you think about a train getting on a track and going in a circle for eternity, it doesn't matter how you look at it, it's got to be put on the track the first time. it wasn't always on the track.

(In my opinion)- there isn't a time loop, but events such as Jin don't need to have what you describe as 'a beginning'. In 1988, Jin - a time traveller from the future - arrived and saved Danielle. Then, in 2004, the time traveller entered the past in order for the 1988 event to occur. That is the way in which the series of events took place.

[bearcatb7]

It was a small time jump probibly a week or so.

That was D Rousseau's makeshift camp. In the spoiler section a couple weeks ago someone had taken pictures of that setup in Hawaii and mentioned that it was her camp from when she arived on the island.

thanks. I wasnt watching carefully but the person i was watching with said that the violin was Sawyers. so i just assumed.

[Turnip Queen]

Well they've had it so you can't change the future, so that had to have happened that she stayed alive. The woman they have playing Danielle's younger self is a striking similarity! I'm wondering now what the deal is with the sickness - that the monster made her fella crazy? I just assumed the sickness was them all getting nosebleeds and dying - but what's the deal with the craziness?

[Archangel-Player]

Jin did not change the future because Rousseau's story matches with what we saw. For whatever reason, she didn't go with her crew and didn't get the "sickness".

Now, some people (such as myself) will say that Jin was always responsible for saving Rousseau. Essentially, whatever happened always happened.

Others will say that Jin did not always save her, but for whatever reason she didn't go with her crew the first time. When Jin showed up the island course corrected to have Jin save her, but he didn't actually change anything since Danielle always went through the same motions. In this case, it was the same result (her not following her crew) under different circumstances.

I like your second reason. Jin semi changed the future. By changing how Danielle would not get sick and how she didn`t fall into the hole. Even though thoese event would have happend any how even without Jin`s intervention. Just without Jin.