New idea

[abcd1234]

I posted this in another thread but I dont know if anyone is going to read it so i thought Id repost it as I think it is a good theory. what if the others looking for a host to put jacobs spirit into? That would explain why they are always looking for a special child. and thats why richard is never the "leader" he is trying to find a special child and then they will do some ancient others ceremony and try to ressurrect jacob...

[EasyBeingSleazy]

Good idea that would sort of explain why they are looking for special children?
So do you think that Locke was selected as a child? and is it too late for him now to be Jacobs new 'body'?? - Unless thats why they healed his disability when he crashed on the island, so he had a fully functional body???

[Pung]

Somehow from reading this thread I had a vision from like children of the corn or something where the children of the island are evil and are the ones that are in charge of everything...creepy:D

[abcd1234]

I think locke plays a part but is not the chosen one. it has kind of been shown that locke does everything wrong.

I was thinking more of big trouble in little china (believe it or not) where the old ancient guy wanted to return to human form and there was a prophecised woman with green eyes etc.

[littleredman]

I'm not sure.

Richard mentioned that Ben was preoccupied with trivial matters like the pregnancy issue on the island. If they were looking for a child to "host" Jacob then the fact babies cannot be born on the island would be quite a big issue!

[abcd1234]

So what? whether my theory is right or wrong, there is no doubt that the others are looking for young children to become their leaders. so the relevancy of the pregnancy problems is the same either way.

[EasyBeingSleazy]

The pregnancy on the island troubles should'nt matter with this theory anyway because Richard Alpert went onto mainland to see if Locke was special didn't he??

[rochnative]

So what? whether my theory is right or wrong, there is no doubt that the others are looking for young children to become their leaders. so the relevancy of the pregnancy problems is the same either way.

I have to disagree with your "host for Jacob" theory. How would a population with no ability to propogate survive multiple generations? They need children and other "kind hearted" people to maintain their civilization. That is why the "lists" were made and to quote Goodwin, "Children are fine." Until we know the criteria to be on the list its tough to say why they would abscond with different people from the crashes. Children would work because they can be molded to fit "the others" views and lifestyles.

[littleredman]

The pregnancy on the island troubles should'nt matter with this theory anyway because Richard Alpert went onto mainland to see if Locke was special didn't he??

Yeah, because Locke told him to.

[EasyBeingSleazy]

Yeah, because Locke told him to

oh yeah i remember now, so thats why he went to see him! i overlooked the bit where Locke was tellling richard to go and see him when he was born. (as the reason why he went to see him in the first place)

[loadclr]

Somehow from reading this thread I had a vision from like children of the corn or something where the children of the island are evil and are the ones that are in charge of everything...creepy:D

Or the movie "The Children"...

Nuclear leak turns kids to zombies...

Horrible movie...

[natego]

Remember Cerberus is also a dog reference.. the Cerberus character was a three dog-headed monster.

[abcd1234]

its not my theory that the others are looking for a special chosen leader, thats been established. richard specifically said they choose their leaders at a very young age, he recruited ben at a young age, he took walt, wanted clairs baby, took reassous baby. how is this even disputed?

No one has to agree with my theory I just wish it was opposed by an argument that makes sense. the parts of my theory you are arguing with are part of the show.

[islander]

I posted this in another thread but I dont know if anyone is going to read it so i thought Id repost it as I think it is a good theory. what if the others looking for a host to put jacobs spirit into? That would explain why they are always looking for a special child. and thats why richard is never the "leader" he is trying to find a special child and then they will do some ancient others ceremony and try to ressurrect jacob...

Granted we don't know much about Jacob, but why does Jacob need a kid as a host? Why not use Christian's body?

I thought Richard and the Others were looking for special kids to be future leaders of the Others. As far as we know, Walt and maybe even Aaron will be future leaders of the Others.

[abcd1234]

i dont know, I figured if I were dead for hundreds of yeas i'd want to be ressurrected in a young body. not lockes old crippled body or christians dead body. but then again locke is no longer crippled and christian is kind of alive again.

noone has ever seen big trouble in little china?

[islander]

i dont know, I figured if I were dead for hundreds of yeas i'd want to be ressurrected in a young body. not lockes old crippled body or christians dead body. but then again locke is no longer crippled and christian is kind of alive again.

noone has ever seen big trouble in little china?

Never seen it.

[JfromtheD]

Remember Cerberus is also a dog reference.. the Cerberus character was a three dog-headed monster.

Cerberus also owns Chrysler and half of GMAC...

Maybe the island needs a government bailout?!? :D

[Dharma Deviant]

I have to disagree with your "host for Jacob" theory. How would a population with no ability to propogate survive multiple generations? They need children and other "kind hearted" people to maintain their civilization. That is why the "lists" were made and to quote Goodwin, "Children are fine." Until we know the criteria to be on the list its tough to say why they would abscond with different people from the crashes. Children would work because they can be molded to fit "the others" views and lifestyles.

This makes a lot more sense to me. I think they need people to keep their lil tribe/civilization going and the kids would be perfect candidates. It would be so much easier to raise them into their ways and with their morals, than to try to change an adult. Plus with all the missing children wouldn't Jacob have a body by now???

[abcd1234]

I understand what you are saying, maybe I didnt say correctly. I think there is one special person or whatever the others have been waiting for to bring jacob back with. it could be a sacrifice or he enters their body or something. the others are very much like a cult, they have all the ancient stuff going on. I think its a solid theory, it makes as much sense as the fact we already know they are looking for a special leader. people have suggested it is locke, jack, aaron, walt, even hurley. but it isnt really explained why or what that person is going to do. even if its the dumbest idea ever it adds up more then charlie is desmonds son, vincent is jacob or widmore is his own father - all theories that everyone seems to get behind.

[Dharma Deviant]

Well then maybe Aaron is that child because he was born on the island and lived there for a while, so I would figure he would get some kind of "powers" from it. Therefor making him "Special". This would also back up the theory that Aaron is Jacob. It would make sense for him to want to have his grandfather and mother with him in the cabin. So maybe Aaron is Jacob.....

[Ms. Austen]

noone has ever seen big trouble in little china?

I have and I totally understand where you're coming from. I can see that what you're saying makes sense. Good theory!

[boutte]

Well then maybe Aaron is that child because he was born on the island and lived there for a while, so I would figure he would get some kind of "powers" from it. Therefor making him "Special". This would also back up the theory that Aaron is Jacob. It would make sense for him to want to have his grandfather and mother with him in the cabin. So maybe Aaron is Jacob.....

So
Jacob was in the the Pilot episode but we didn't hear him speak. (According to TPTB)

His Mother, Grandfather and Uncle are all on the Island.

A psychic told not to let the chid be raised by another (an Other?)

On the other hand,

Claire and Christian left him in the jungle.

Claire told Kate not to bring him back.

No one tried to keep Sun from taking off the Island to begin with.

Ben acts like he doesn't exist.

Aaron is obviously central to the story but what his role will ultimately be is not clear to me at all. I'm warming to the theory that he's Jacob though. Till now I've always thought Jacob was Locke.

[EasyBeingSleazy]

So
Jacob was in the the Pilot episode but we didn't hear him speak. (According to TPTB)

Does it count as been in the episode if he was inside Claire i.e not born yet???
(that could be a possibility if Aaron is Jacob? couldn't it??

[abcd1234]

If aaron or locke (or jack) are jacob, then jacob cannot also be the smoke monster.

I thought they did say he was in the first episode, but didnt speak. if that is true, it leaves smoke monster, christian, possibly aaron, and unfortunately vincent.

[krakup]

If aaron or locke (or jack) are jacob, then jacob cannot also be the smoke monster.

I thought they did say he was in the first episode, but didnt speak. if that is true, it leaves smoke monster, christian, possibly aaron, and unfortunately vincent.

out of those three i say christian, but could smokey be christian. oh i give up, roll on wednesday

[EasyBeingSleazy]

I thought they did say he was in the first episode, but didnt speak. if that is true, it leaves smoke monster, christian, possibly aaron, and unfortunately vincent

So are they the main options of who it can be if TPTB have definately confirmed that Jacob appeared in the first episode but didn't speak? (barring some random person in the background of a scene being the person who plays Jacob)

[EasyBeingSleazy]

So
Jacob was in the the Pilot episode but we didn't hear him speak. (According to TPTB)

His Mother, Grandfather and Uncle are all on the Island -- Is This Confirmed or just speculation/possible theories???

His Mother = Claire
His Grandfather = Christian
His Uncle = Jack

[rekhyt]

I was a bit confused at first because it is indeed confirmed that Claire, Jack and Christian were/are on the island...but then I think I understand what made you ask:
I think Boutte is listing these facts (for/against Aaron=Jacob) based upon "Is Aaron Jacob?" not on "Is Jacob Aaron?", so although she mentions Jacobs name in the first one she is referring to Aaron in the others, meaning Aarons mother, grandfather, uncle are on the island, not Jacobs mother, grandfather, uncle are on the island.

[EasyBeingSleazy]

Ah right i see, damn it i thought it was looking too good pointing to Jacob being Aaron, i should have known that knowing the writers of lost it will probably be a huge shock as to who Jacob actually is

[Pung]

My understanding of Jacob being in the pilot ep is not a way to figure out who he is. I thought I had read that the person who portrays Jacob (or at least his eye) had also appeared as someone else in the pilot ep that did not have a speaking role. it was more about the person who plays jacob, not the character himslef.