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mirizarry716
02-15-2008, 05:41 PM
I'm convinced that Sayid has been working for Ben all along. Maybe it's me, but he looked really sad about Naomi being killed. No one else seemed to give it a 2nd thought, but he closed her eyes, covered her & suggest they take her home!! WHY?? For a torturer, he sure has a big HEART?! Then, when we see him & Ben at the end it just makes sense. Somehow Sayid knew Naomi & was fond of her. I don't know....this Sayid thing is making me 2nd guess his loyalty to everyone from the beginning.:confused:

mirizarry716
02-15-2008, 05:55 PM
Now that I think about it some more....maybe he didn't work for Ben, but he was working for someone. His reactions to Naomi were just too strange for me.

legendaryzero
02-15-2008, 06:07 PM
I certainly hope that Sayid is not working for anyone else... I would feel betrayed by that greatly. However, I do remember reading somewhere, I honestly dont remember where, that a character that we have followed since the beginning of the show will turn out to be someone we didnt expect. It cold have just been a rumor, but you make a good point with Sayid and Ben, or whoever else it might be.

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 06:10 PM
It honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit but I just doubt that its Sayid....haha maybe its just because I've fallen in love with the characters and trust all of them but yah, I think that would make a great shocking twist if one of the Losties we've grown to love has been behind it this whole time! Dun, dun, dunnnnn! :p

TuesdaySmith
02-15-2008, 06:11 PM
I don't in any way think that he was working for Ben on the island, BUT the new episode was a little weird.. He did to react to Naomi's death a little strongly for someone that barely knew her, and also his whole thing about getting to the freighter first. It just seemed a little "off" to me. I know he could be just going to check it out before letting the other losties get on it, but still.. the whole thing was just a little bit strange...

thelawgiver
02-15-2008, 06:15 PM
No way. I think Sayid is forced to work for Ben in the flashbacks.

RG= Republican Guard???? Spy stuff????

legendaryzero
02-15-2008, 06:16 PM
I totally agree on Sayid acting strange, but to me, he has always acted that way. I've always felt this mysteriousness with him. I guess thats why I like his character so much.

TuesdaySmith
02-15-2008, 06:18 PM
No way. I think Sayid is forced to work for Ben in the flashbacks.

RG= Republican Guard???? Spy stuff????

Uh... Naomi, I'll always be with you - the Republican Guard??

bunnydixon
02-15-2008, 06:19 PM
i think the reason he was so bothered by the death is down to religion.

we have seen him stop to pray etc....and i think when miles referred to naomi as a piece of meat this bothered him so maybe he wants to ensure her body gets the correct burial.

HOWEVER, he has killed and seen others die and not made a big deal of it.

Okay, he was a torturer but he did what he did because it was serving for a cause he believed in. Doesnt mean he cant have feelings!

bunnydixon
02-15-2008, 06:20 PM
Uh... Naomi, I'll always be with you - the Republican Guard??


yes but someone else has stated the i'll always be with you could mean - i am always watching you!

mirizarry716
02-15-2008, 06:34 PM
Uh... Naomi, I'll always be with you - the Republican Guard??

Very good connection!! I didn't even catch that. Makes a lot of sense.

a1sacch
02-15-2008, 07:15 PM
I certainly hope that Sayid is not working for anyone else... I would feel betrayed by that greatly. However, I do remember reading somewhere, I honestly dont remember where, that a character that we have followed since the beginning of the show will turn out to be someone we didnt expect. It cold have just been a rumor, but you make a good point with Sayid and Ben, or whoever else it might be.

I heard this too. Something about, at the end of the 8th episode this season, **** will hit the fan with a character we know and love will surprise us.
I don't want to believe the Sayid has been in cahoots with ben since the beginning...but I can also imagine a flashback coming that shows that when Sayid disappeared and wound up finding Rousseau...he also ran into Ben and began this whole shin-dig

ASbarra
02-15-2008, 07:28 PM
I heard this too. Something about, at the end of the 8th episode this season, **** will hit the fan with a character we know and love will surprise us.
I don't want to believe the Sayid has been in cahoots with ben since the beginning...but I can also imagine a flashback coming that shows that when Sayid disappeared and wound up finding Rousseau...he also ran into Ben and began this whole shin-dig

I have read many resources stating that Michael is suppose to show up again in episode 8. I feel he is the character that is in cahoots with Ben, which would be a shocker (not as much as sayid working with ben from the island). What do you think about when Sayid told Locke he wasn't expecting to get Charlotte without giving him something in return? I don't believe he was simply referring to Miles. Perhaps it's at this point that Sayid makes a deal to work for Ben and Locke to protect the island in exchange for Charlotte so he could leave the island.

akheirax
02-15-2008, 07:34 PM
I have read many resources stating that Michael is suppose to show up again in episode 8. I feel he is the character that is in cahoots with Ben, which would be a shocker (not as much as sayid working with ben from the island). What do you think about when Sayid told Locke he wasn't expecting to get Charlotte without giving him something in return? I don't believe he was simply referring to Miles. Perhaps it's at this point that Sayid makes a deal to work for Ben and Locke to protect the island in exchange for Charlotte so he could leave the island.

You are on to something m8. Have been reading every post since watching EP03. My head really hurts and I cant wait for next week. The last sentence there is I think imho spot on.

Mukara
02-15-2008, 09:53 PM
It would be a nice story line for "Lost", but I'm thinking perhaps its not "Sayid", just maybe the writers are forcing us to believe it to be Sayid and then WHAM! the True Culprit - the insider ... "Locke" himself (that would confuse us EVEN MORE). Sayid most likely new Naomi from the past I mean she was involved in espionage and such, they probably worked together at some point and MADE LOVE..............

PacmanIsLost
02-15-2008, 10:01 PM
after reading this post i could totally see Sayid being on Flight 815 because he was on his way to L.A. to do a hit and then has been gathering information ever since the crash.... if you think about it, there have been a lot of times he has gone off without the Losties (e.g.-when he leave to map the island) and he could very well have been going off to talk with Ben about things...

i also found the Republican Guard - RG connection interesting but i'm not convinced, though he is proving the bracelet correct throughout the episode!

chandler
02-15-2008, 10:13 PM
I personally think that this season is developing from present on and from a future point backwards. thus sayid is working with ben because he must eliminate the threat of the people who are coming to the island. These people are a danger to the members of oceanic who are still hiding on the island. Since Ben knows who they are sayid is working with him to destroy the threat. However i also personally think that lost is an interpretation of Shakespeares the Tempest.

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 11:03 PM
IHowever i also personally think that lost is an interpretation of Shakespeares the Tempest.

Why do you say that? Just curious because I've never read that play :)

Mukara
02-15-2008, 11:07 PM
Yeah, give us a brief description of this tempest play. It would be helpful to either see the connection or disapprove the likeliness. Thanks:p

kwatt99
02-15-2008, 11:18 PM
I too have been struck by Sayid's forcefulness in wanting to leave the island. Everyone else seems elated about it, he seems different about it. I also noticed they've been almost highlighting Naomi's dead body.

Dzbabykel
02-15-2008, 11:23 PM
I too have been struck by Sayid's forcefulness in wanting to leave the island. Everyone else seems elated about it, he seems different about it. I also noticed they've been almost highlighting Naomi's dead body.

I've noticed that too, especially regarding Sayid....I wonder if somehow she's still very significant to whats going on or will come back into play. I don't at ALL think that she's still alive by any means, like she's going to magically wake up in the helicopter haha but who knows why they keep pinpointing her body....even as much to make sure she made it on the plane?

TuesdaySmith
02-16-2008, 06:04 AM
yes but someone else has stated the i'll always be with you could mean - i am always watching you!

Yeah.. I guess.. but it would still be really weird! She's not Iraqi and it would just generally be a weird thing to wear.

beachblinkette
02-17-2008, 10:48 PM
It is possible that Sayid is working for Ben because of it being someone we don't expect . Seeing that Sayid was visibly moved when he looked at Naomi's body and he saw the bracelet, makes me suspicious.So many characters have led double lives. Look at how Locke has shifted when he threw the knife at N,He's suddenly gotten so clever.What's that all about. Is he getting craftier because he's working with Ben or Jacob? He was shot on the side of his missing kidney.Was that really a fortunate accident or planned to make it look like he was an enemy? His own dad tricked him and yet he was still looking for love from him!

Turnip Queen
02-17-2008, 10:54 PM
No way. I think Sayid is forced to work for Ben in the flashbacks.

RG= Republican Guard???? Spy stuff????
I agree with you! Sayid is one of those people who you really feel is honest in the show. I mean if it wasn't about killing people you wouldn't be suprised if Locke was working with Ben because he's on his own journey and stuff. I don't get that from Sayid.

boyo
02-17-2008, 11:31 PM
Yeah.. I guess.. but it would still be really weird! She's not Iraqi and it would just generally be a weird thing to wear.

as I suggested in another post - N. could stand for Nadya. Nadya could be working for the same company now (Abbadon) and know Naomi ?

jacksnurse
02-18-2008, 01:54 AM
i have had a feeling for a long time that nadya and naomi are linked....i think u are on to it.....

mahalo_dude
02-18-2008, 03:40 AM
I'm willing to bet we will see Nadia again.

john-locke (harry)
02-18-2008, 01:28 PM
yh we will see nadia again we have seen her a few times like in greatest hits wen she was geting robbed and charlie helped her!!!!

boulderheart1
02-18-2008, 06:51 PM
one problem, it isnt part of sayids character to do this, at the end bens says soemthign abotu keepin his freind alive, maybe he has sayids love hostage, which tells us sayid only works/cooperates with people if he has to.

Roadglider1
02-18-2008, 07:08 PM
I think that sayid must have started working for ben on the island. Wasn't it sayid, among others, who beat the crap out of ben when he was pretending to be henry gail? Ben must have something that sayid wants or needs in order to get him working with him

heavensprincess
02-18-2008, 07:15 PM
I don't think he starts working for him until they get off the island. I think they get off the island and realize they are all screwed and Ben was right the whole time.

lostfan
02-18-2008, 07:20 PM
I don't think he starts working for him until they get off the island. I think they get off the island and realize they are all screwed and Ben was right the whole time.

Yeah I agree, they know they shouldn't have left for some reason. Plus there keeping some really important secrets that we don't know about yet.

phoebe beeberbee
02-18-2008, 07:24 PM
I am also interested by the 'just remember what happened the LAST time you let your heart get in the way of your common sense'... what was that?
a) it allowed me to use Nadia to bait you into working for me?
b) it made you put Naomi in the helicopter and for some reason that was a bad idea?
Something else that happens after the island but before the 2 deaths we have seen?

I agree that this is in some way linked to trying to STOP the people coming to the island in the 1st place.

We now have plenty of time travel / wormhole type stuff - there is CLEARLY a time anomaly as indicated by the rocket arriving so late...

Hey - lots of people are reckoning that Naomi is alive. Maybe she isn't on the island. But the time difference will have grown so great by the time the get her to the freighter than she'll still be alive again then...

OK. I'm rambling. I'll get my coat...

tacky
02-18-2008, 07:38 PM
Did nobody else notice the bracelet on the girl sayid shoots in the hotel, It looked very similar to naomis, Sayid seemed to be drawn to it too. Naveen was on the radio a couple of weeks ago saying we would see sayid in "another dimension" whatever that means.

heavensprincess
02-18-2008, 07:42 PM
I did notice it too. I think maybe they just worked for the same guy that R.G. They were maybe gifts from him..some kind of hidden meaning behind the engraving.

tacky
02-18-2008, 07:56 PM
Hmmm good point. The only thing i know for certain is this show bends my mind

ollyisawolly
02-18-2008, 08:38 PM
sayid could be workin 4 ben, remember he is the 1 that worked out Michael was trikin jack k8 hurley nd sawyer goin to the others. he knew exactly wat michael was doing cos possibly ben had already told them. also paulo and nikki had that walkie-talkie, he could of used that to communicate with ben...?

what do ppl think???

Roadglider1
02-18-2008, 10:25 PM
I don't think he starts working for him until they get off the island. I think they get off the island and realize they are all screwed and Ben was right the whole time.

You could be right, but how do you suppose he was able to contact ben after being off the island? Then again he was in the military, he probably has the resources.

TSOL1
02-18-2008, 10:28 PM
Judging by what ben says at the end of the last episode, I have to believe that Sayid is working for Ben in order to protect his friends.

heavensprincess
02-19-2008, 02:41 AM
You could be right, but how do you suppose he was able to contact ben after being off the island? Then again he was in the military, he probably has the resources.

Maybe it's Ben who reaches out to them for help. It seems they get a lot of media attention I suppose it wouldn't be to hard to find them.

Roadglider1
02-19-2008, 03:53 AM
Maybe it's Ben who reaches out to them for help. It seems they get a lot of media attention I suppose it wouldn't be to hard to find them.

good point