2 Islands??

[MrEchoLives]

So the island was traveling thru time at one point. And the people on the island were stuck in whatever time the island was in. If it is the island that stuck in the 70's and the 316er's are in present time(which seems to be the popular opinion),then whoevers goes to the island right now would be thrust back into the 70's???
Otherwise it would be like having 2 islands. If these guys(316er's) take thier canoe to the main island and start walking around,they wouldnt run into any of the people currently on the island(DI,Sawyer etc). Its like 2 islands living in 2 different universes at the same time

[abcd1234]

I dont think the island is moving i think the people on it were moving.

[sixxter]

not sure why but i thought the 316'ers were on the smaller island.

what made me think that? no idea cant remember

[abcd1234]

they are but they are in 2007/08 while the 815/6 whatever the hell flight it was are in 1977

[MrEchoLives]

the 316ers are definitely on the other island. I was just wandering if they travel to the main island would they see the same things as sawyer and them..

[eduty]

The former cast aways "flashed" off of flight 316, so only they are in the 70s.

The other passengers of 316 crashed on the island in the present day and face whatever dangers cropped up in the three years since Locke moved the island.

I think that the island itself only moves through space, which places it in a different spot on the globe every time it's moved, so there is only 1 island for any given time period. The people on the island not only move through space, but also through time, so there may be multiples of a singular individual at any given time.

Two things confuse me at the moment:

1. I can understand why Locke didn't move through time when the plane flew over the island. He was dead and his consciousness was elsewhere. But, why didn't Ben flash through time like Hurley, Sayid, Kate, Sun, and Jack? Is it somehow a condition of his "exile" that he is no longer affected by the island's time warp?

2. Did all the survivors of the Oceanic flight start jumping through time? If so, where are Rose, Bernard, and the rest? Did they get stranded in other times or are they also in the 70s? Where's Vincent? What about the Others? Did they start moving through time as well when Ben moved the wheel?

[RussellEarl3]

The Island or whoever or whatever controls the Island sends people where they need to go. None of it appears to me to be random. Ben and Locke are in the present because that is where the Island wants them. Sawyer, Juliet et al. have been in the 70s for three years - where the island wants them. Why are they there for 3 years before Jack and the rest join them. The most obvious reason is the change in Sawyer. Sawyer is now a leader. He is the leader of the lost boys and Wendy - I mean Juliet. He is the respected (and feared) chief of security for DI. He is friend and counselor to Horace Goodspeed, the nominal head of the Workman side of DI. In addition he is in a stable, healthy, and long term relationship with Juliet. This is not the angry, trouble making Sawyer of old. I think he is the key to whatever is going to happen in the 70s. Somehow the interactions between the Jack group and the Sawyer group (or should I say the LaFleur group) will do something to change the past that the Island wants changed.

[hurleysgurl]

First, how do we know that the people on island 2 are in the present? Dharma could have abandoned one or more of its stations before the purge.

Where are Sun and Sayid?

Is anyone else mad because of the tantalizing glimpse of the statue only to have our hopes dashed by another flash?

[ParadoxPrincess]

Sayid is shown as hostage in 2 wks episode.

[when am i?]

First, how do we know that the people on island 2 are in the present? Dharma could have abandoned one or more of its stations before the purge.

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This is possible,
but we asume 316 landed in present time cos everyone else on the plane did not go with the flash.
Maybe the flash did transport everybody to 1977,and only the O6 were separated,remember in the first crash two groups were separated.
So if this flight was supposed to mirror the first one,then that is a logical conclusion.

BUT WHO TURNED THE WHEEL TO CAUSE THE FLASH ON THE PLANE???
Or did it just automatically happen when the plane reache the island,if so,why wasn't there a simsilar flash when the first plane crashed?

[notsolost42]

This is possible,
but we asume 316 landed in present time cos everyone else on the plane did not go with the flash.
Maybe the flash did transport everybody to 1977,and only the O6 were separated,remember in the first crash two groups were separated.
So if this flight was supposed to mirror the first one,then that is a logical conclusion.

BUT WHO TURNED THE WHEEL TO CAUSE THE FLASH ON THE PLANE???
Or did it just automatically happen when the plane reache the island,if so,why wasn't there a simsilar flash when the first plane crashed?

The flash on the plane was caused by it entering a "window in time" that Mrs. Hawking carefully figured the probabilities of. Think of it as a kind of portal into a different spacetime. A "natural" occurance of a bend in spacetime. The plane went through it. The losties were taken out in a flash because they were supposed to return and the plane landed on Hydra Island. I am still not sold as to what year it is on Hydra Island. For those who think it is in the present time of 2008 then please offer me one logical reason that a magazine dated April 1954 is just hanging around on a table in the office? It doesn't make sense and it is not logical.

[Chronos]

First, how do we know that the people on island 2 are in the present? Dharma could have abandoned one or more of its stations before the purge.


We have reached this conclusion because Sawyer & Co. flashed to a time where they saw their base camp, which had been raided (all the beer was gone) by someone and they also found the outrigger boats and a bottle of liquor with an Ajira Airlines label on it. We are presuming that those boats were brought by the 316ers (Caesar & Co) who found the Losties's base camp, which was built after the crash of 815.

If the Ajira labeled bottle and the outrigger canoes had been left there since the past, the Losties would have found them before the O6 left the island. But they did not.