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Gamar
03-10-2009, 01:11 PM
Is it just me, Or we have seen priewviously that name:Lafleur on a Dharma jump suit on a dead body? I can't get my finguer on it, was it when Lock fell in the pit with all those Dharma corps? or else?
bunnydixon
03-10-2009, 01:17 PM
no idea but i found this on lostpedia...
'The name LaFleur is mentioned by Pierre Chang at the end of his fragment in the DHARMA booth video, which may indicate Sawyers presence at the recording.'
rochnative
03-10-2009, 02:08 PM
I was wondering if any of the names the 815'ers had assumed once they joined the DI were on any of the dead bodies in the pit. Granted, we don't know too many of their names as of yet, but it might be interesting to look into.
MrEchoLives
03-10-2009, 03:21 PM
wow. I'm gonna have to rewatch those scenes with the pit now.Good thoughts guys
NOIDEAWHATSGOINGON
03-10-2009, 03:37 PM
Better question, is that REALLY Bunny in that picture? WOW
5starboss
03-10-2009, 03:59 PM
I've haven't paid much attention to flowers on the show before now. Sawyer's choice was a significant one. Of course, LaFleur means Flowers.
Some examples from the show. The Orchid- also a flower, and a fake botanical station. Ben told Locke to look by the anthuriums ( had to look that one up) for the hidden elevator. Sawyer stopped to pick a flower for Juliette( idk what kind it is) Who did Sawyer call a "flower child"? Libby?
The idea of Lafluer being in the purge pit made me think of the phrase "pushing daisies"
shawdawg
03-10-2009, 04:06 PM
I heard mentioned this before in a thread. I think, not sure, that the name was in the pit of dead bodies
bunnydixon
03-10-2009, 05:07 PM
Better question, is that REALLY Bunny in that picture? WOW
the answer is yes and no hehehe!!!
RePercussionist
03-10-2009, 05:17 PM
the answer is yes and no hehehe!!!
Puzzling. Did you photoshop something or was that all you in that red dress?! haha
bunnydixon
03-10-2009, 05:22 PM
Puzzling. Did you photoshop something or was that all you in that red dress?! haha
wow - how to explain this without sounding (even more) nuts....
well you see, lockeing married ben and i was her bridesmaid and that what she put me in :eek:
just my face NOT my body (sadly lol!) not my work - a super talented guy made it for me :D
butterflygardengirl
03-10-2009, 05:42 PM
Is it just me, Or we have seen priewviously that name:Lafleur on a Dharma jump suit on a dead body? I can't get my finguer on it, was it when Lock fell in the pit with all those Dharma corps? or else?
Yeah, it would be good to go back and find when the name was mentioned because I am pretty sure it was mentioned (maybe even more than once).
bunnydixon
03-10-2009, 05:44 PM
so who wants to go rummage in the pit? ;)
conkeys19
03-10-2009, 06:03 PM
Is it just me, Or we have seen priewviously that name:Lafleur on a Dharma jump suit on a dead body? I can't get my finguer on it, was it when Lock fell in the pit with all those Dharma corps? or else?
all the dharma jump suites have the first name only and then their job title. so you would need to be looking for james, juliette, hugo, or jin. noone has there last name on the jump suites.
bunnydixon
03-10-2009, 06:06 PM
sawyers jumpsuit read 'lafleur'
conkeys19
03-10-2009, 08:14 PM
sawyers jumpsuit read 'lafleur'
well ill have to rewatch that. i strictly remember that his said james, because i am blonde and was like i thought they were calling him jim. maybe the lost producers messed up and put both on there. i also remember miles jumpsuit said miles while juliettes said juliette.
bunnydixon
03-10-2009, 08:16 PM
well...i have it on my pooter so i quickly went back and watched a clip (when he is talking to the dr regarding amys section) and you catch a wee glimpse of it saying la fleur.
maybe they can mix n match!!
Baibe
03-10-2009, 09:07 PM
well ill have to rewatch that. i strictly remember that his said james, because i am blonde and was like i thought they were calling him jim. maybe the lost producers messed up and put both on there. i also remember miles jumpsuit said miles while juliettes said juliette.
Nope Sawyer's said Lafleur. Jim is short for James was my take on the name. I think Miles' said Enos (or that was what Sawyer called him.. )but I know Jules' said Juliet.
Sawyer http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Image:5x08_TheyLookFamiliar.jpg
Can't find ones for Miles and Jules.
Whippy91
03-10-2009, 09:44 PM
Heres another thing!...The book can also be....a hat!:)
MrsBoone
03-10-2009, 10:52 PM
I think you're right - will have to rewatch but I think a jumpsuit with LaFleur WAS in the pit
TuesdaySmith
03-10-2009, 11:11 PM
I checked out some screencaps on DarkUFO but I couldn't see any names. If anyone actually sees the name on a shirt in the pit, I hope you'll let us know!
boutte
03-10-2009, 11:14 PM
no idea but i found this on lostpedia...
'The name LaFleur is mentioned by Pierre Chang at the end of his fragment in the DHARMA booth video, which may indicate Sawyers presence at the recording.'
OMG,what a thought! That blows my mind!
Baibe
03-10-2009, 11:22 PM
I tried to view pics of the pit but it wasn't clear enough to get names. The close as I got was YouTube. Here are the links:
The first is Ben shooting Locke and the second is Walt visiting Locke. Both are only like 2 mins. But I didn't see any names just a few patches.
Ben shoots Locke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoI9OxYPuyA)
Walt helps John (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZG9YYQaAA)
boutte
03-10-2009, 11:30 PM
I tried to view pics of the pit but it wasn't clear enough to get names. The close as I got was YouTube. Here are the links:
The first is Ben shooting Locke and the second is Walt visiting Locke. Both are only like 2 mins. But I didn't see any names just a few patches.
Ben shoots Locke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoI9OxYPuyA)
Walt helps John (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZG9YYQaAA)
You can see it in HD on ABC.com. What episode is it?
MrEchoLives
03-10-2009, 11:32 PM
On a side note, while watching the dharma booth video, Chang has to stop talkin to the camera at one point and ask Lori to 'get the crying baby out of here'..... Could this be Miles as a baby ,while Milesas an adult is also in the room or somewhere nearby?
Black Rocker
03-11-2009, 01:12 AM
Heres another thing!...The book can also be....a hat!:)
ROFLMAO haha! I have wanted to post that a few times when I read the time travel mumbo jumbo. you're hilarious dude. Anybody who responds with Peter Griffin quotes is cool in my book. 2 funny man.
Whippy91
03-12-2009, 04:37 AM
ROFLMAO haha! I have wanted to post that a few times when I read the time travel mumbo jumbo. you're hilarious dude. Anybody who responds with Peter Griffin quotes is cool in my book. 2 funny man.
sorry to spoil the whole show for everyone by reavealing that the book is also a hat :(
i appologise for my ways...
but while im at it
jacob is actually meg from family guy...they sent her to the island in season 9 (obviously we havent seen it yet cos its in the future, but time travel has played its part)
richard is the evil monkey
i noticed the links to family guy throughout my studies of this wonderful show...
You can see it in HD on ABC.com. What episode is it?
Ben shoots John in ep 3.20 "the man behind the curtain"
uhdum
03-12-2009, 02:16 PM
I don't have any screencaps, but Miles and Juliet's jumpsuits have their real name. Sawyer's is the only one that has an alias, and it says "LaFleur." No doubt about it. Having "Jim" or "James" on it would take away from the shock of the scene near the beginning when Phil and Jerry go to wake up LaFleur, and Sawyer grabs his Dharma uniform with "LaFleur" so prominently displayed.
beachblinkette
03-12-2009, 02:35 PM
I've haven't paid much attention to flowers on the show before now. Sawyer's choice was a significant one. Of course, LaFleur means Flowers.
Some examples from the show. The Orchid- also a flower, and a fake botanical station. Ben told Locke to look by the anthuriums ( had to look that one up) for the hidden elevator. Sawyer stopped to pick a flower for Juliette( idk what kind it is) Who did Sawyer call a "flower child"? Libby?
The idea of Lafluer being in the purge pit made me think of the phrase "pushing daisies"
Very creative and clever pictures of Jack there! Loved it!! The flower ideas are something I have explored, too. Many mystical/mythical connections to the flowers mentioned on Lost. And wasn't there a scene where Eko or some character is standing in a field of red flowers on Lost? Apollo or some god's mythology was linked to a field of flowers-red ones I think--maybe anthuriums or roses or?
hawkman1
03-17-2009, 01:44 AM
I’m not sure but I think Lafluer was the dead guy in the van that Hurley found and got running.
Unbridled Pageantry
03-17-2009, 01:48 AM
I’m not sure but I think Lafluer was the dead guy in the van that Hurley found and got running.
Nope, that was Roger Linus; Ben's dad.
I’m not sure but I think Lafluer was the dead guy in the van that Hurley found and got running.
That was the van that Ben killed his father, Roger Linus, in. That can also be seen in ep 3.20 the man behind the curtain
Ah good job unbridled, you beat me to it. Thats also Rogers arm that vincent brought in from the jungle. Not to be confused with the arm of Montand, that was ripped off in the best smokie scene ever, that we saw earlier this season a few eps ago
NoData
03-17-2009, 02:29 AM
Ah good job unbridled, you beat me to it. Thats also Rogers arm that vincent brought in from the jungle. Not to be confused with the arm of Montand, that was ripped off in the best smokie scene ever, that we saw earlier this season a few eps agoWhat is it with ppl losing arms on this show? Roger, Montand, Dr Chang, anyone else?
woogie
03-17-2009, 07:10 AM
What is it with ppl losing arms on this show? Roger, Montand, Dr Chang, anyone else?
When and how did Dr. Chang lose an arm? Reference?
dmbtrip2004
03-17-2009, 05:10 PM
was it when Locke was shot by ben and left in the pit with the bodies?
RuLe976
03-17-2009, 06:43 PM
Question- Does everyone from Darhma carry a gun with them? I know Sawyer does and Locke gets the gun off of a dead body in the pit? Maybe we can check Sawyers gun to see if its the same? Long shot here I know.
TuesdaySmith
03-17-2009, 08:49 PM
I really don't think that there is any LeFleur in the pit.. I checked what screenshots I could and watched the scenes where Locke is first shot, Walt talks to Locke, and when Locke is looking for Horace's body in the pit and I saw no names (except for Horace).
Could it have been somewhere else?
NoData
03-17-2009, 09:01 PM
When and how did Dr. Chang lose an arm? Reference?It is one of those things that I have read here a few times but I have not checked it out myself. I should not have included it on the list without checking it out. What I read was that he is seen in one of the videos with a prosthetic arm. I guess I have some homework to do! :cool:
Edit:
Okay I took the Cliff's Notes route and checked Lostpedia. This is who has lost an arm on this show:
1.) Roger Linus' corpse, when Vincent steals it.
2.) Montand of Rousseau's landing team, by Smokey.
3.) The farmer who helped Kate in Tabula Rasa had a prosthetic arm.
4.) Dr. Marvin Candle's left arm is a prosthetic in the Swan Orientation Film. (Dr. Pierre Chang)
The writers seem to have a thing about missing body parts in general. There is a whole section on Lostpedia devoted to it:
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_body_parts
Dreamingwolf
03-17-2009, 09:06 PM
Question- Does everyone from Darhma carry a gun with them? I know Sawyer does and Locke gets the gun off of a dead body in the pit? Maybe we can check Sawyers gun to see if its the same? Long shot here I know.
pretty sure locke had a revolver in the pit, and sawyer has a semi-auto
Jacob's Sheppard
03-17-2009, 09:47 PM
Not sure if this has been discussed but i noticed in lafleur, sawyers name on DI uniform was his fake last name "lafleur" but horace has his first name and so did roger, ben's father. i don't know if theres anything to this i just hate inconsistancies.
Acres1972
03-20-2009, 06:50 AM
Is it just me, Or we have seen priewviously that name:Lafleur on a Dharma jump suit on a dead body? I can't get my finguer on it, was it when Lock fell in the pit with all those Dharma corps? or else?
I didnt read all the responses but YES we did see LaFleur's skeleton in the pit. I told my wife right away after Sawyer 'assumed' the LaFleur name that a body with that name was shown on an earlier episode.
TuesdaySmith
03-20-2009, 06:53 AM
I didnt read all the responses but YES we did see LaFleur's skeleton in the pit. I told my wife right away after Sawyer 'assumed' the LaFleur name that a body with that name was shown on an earlier episode.
Do you remember where? I watched all the scenes I could think of (when Locke is shot, when Walt comes to talk to him, and Locke searching the pit for Horace) and it's not in there. Is there another scene I missed?
TuesdaySmith
03-20-2009, 06:55 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed but i noticed in lafleur, sawyers name on DI uniform was his fake last name "lafleur" but horace has his first name and so did roger, ben's father. i don't know if theres anything to this i just hate inconsistancies.
That just makes me think more that the name LaFleur was on the show somewhere in the past.. they didn't want to use "James" or "Jim" because we'd all suspect Sawyer, so they used a fake name.
I wonder if the name isn't in the pit, but it's somewhere else?
steedo79
03-20-2009, 09:47 AM
la fleur was the first password on the dharma special access thing from Dharmawantsyou.com i still have all the emails and when i seen the name i knew i seen it somewhere then i remembered it was one of the passwords. thats prolly where you guys remember it from unless you never did the dharmawantsyou thing.
jasonm222
03-20-2009, 10:43 AM
I didnt read all the responses but YES we did see LaFleur's skeleton in the pit. I told my wife right away after Sawyer 'assumed' the LaFleur name that a body with that name was shown on an earlier episode.
You must know something we don't. There are 2 scenes in the pit. One where Ben shoots Locke and One when Locke is looking for horace. Neither show Lafleurs Jumpsuit. Where did you see it?
alanfxu
03-20-2009, 11:00 AM
I’m not sure but I think Lafluer was the dead guy in the van that Hurley found and got running.
No that body was Bens father remember? The jumpsuit says Roger Workman, Hurley assumed Workman was his last name but Sawyer explained it was a job title.
Acres1972
03-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Do you remember where? I watched all the scenes I could think of (when Locke is shot, when Walt comes to talk to him, and Locke searching the pit for Horace) and it's not in there. Is there another scene I missed?
I was still half asleep from work when I posted that. Im not positive hes in the pit BUT I'm 100% SURE Sawyer ran upon the remains of "LaFleur". Sorry I dont know the exact episode.
Dead but Here
03-20-2009, 06:23 PM
The DI grunt that Jack asks for directions tells him not to call him James because he hates it. I would assume that he requested LaFluer on his jumpsuit and that's what everyone there calls him anyway. They all call each other by first names and have first names on their jumpsuits except for him.
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