John 316

[jbell1011]

I don't know if anyone noticed it or not, but the other day I thinking about the number of the plane that took everybody back to the island. If you put Locke's name in front of it, you get John 3:16 a passage from the bible that reads "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." I think by the writers throwing something like that into the series only further supports Locke's uniqueness.

[sirchin]

I did make the bible verse connection but I didn't make the connection of "John"
how stupid I missed that, it's my favorite verse. I don't know if it's significant, but it is interesting. Good catch!

[TheSilhouetteofVengeance]

If you translate it from original greek it's read as "For in this way God loved the world: that he gave the unique son, so that all the ones trusting in him would not perish, but have eternal life."

[sirchin]

If you translate it from original greek it's read as "For in this way God loved the world: that he gave the unique son, so that all the ones trusting in him would not perish, but have eternal life."

How is the name John pronounced in Greek? What is your point for translating? was it just F.W.I.?

[TheSilhouetteofVengeance]

It was an fyi and I added it because the first poster happened to use the word unique and I found it interesting from the original greek version the word unique was in the exact quote.

The verse in the original Greek is as follows (associated Strong's Number in superscript):

Οὕτως3779 γὰρ1063 ἠγάπησεν25 ὁ3588 Θεὸς2316 τὸν3588 κόσμον2889, ὥστε5620 τὸν3588 Υἱὸν5207 τὸν3588 μονογενῆ3439 ἔδωκεν1325, ἵνα2443 πᾶς3956 ὁ3588 πιστεύων4100 εἰς1519 Αὐτὸν846[4] μὴ3361 ἀπόληται622 ἀλλ᾽235 ἔχῃ2192 ζωὴν2222 αἰώνιον166

[TuesdaySmith]

Wasn't that the name of the episode - John 3:16?

[TheSilhouetteofVengeance]

Wasn't that the name of the episode - John 3:16?

it was yes

[sirchin]

It was an fyi and I added it because the first poster happened to use the word unique and I found it interesting from the original greek version the word unique was in the exact quote.

The verse in the original Greek is as follows (associated Strong's Number in superscript):

Οὕτως3779 γὰρ1063 ἠγάπησεν25 ὁ3588 Θεὸς2316 τὸν3588 κόσμον2889, ὥστε5620 τὸν3588 Υἱὸν5207 τὸν3588 μονογενῆ3439 ἔδωκεν1325, ἵνα2443 πᾶς3956 ὁ3588 πιστεύων4100 εἰς1519 Αὐτὸν846[4] μὴ3361 ἀπόληται622 ἀλλ᾽235 ἔχῃ2192 ζωὴν2222 αἰώνιον166

Okay, now I see why people, when stupefied say, "it's Greek to me" ! LOL!

[sirchin]

Wasn't that the name of the episode - John 3:16?

No, it was named 316, no John, no colons . The title written is 316 not 3:16, and in the episode pronounced, flight three-one-six, not flight three-sixteen.
The biblical reference is clear but it wasn't called John 3:16. Check it out at abc.com.

[chester]

The Greek translation definitely sounds better in relation to LOST. Still, its just one more mythological reference that will hopefully one day make sense taken together. Maybe they will try to explain the source of all mythologies....like in the book Rant.

[TuesdaySmith]

No, it was named 316, no John, no colons . The title written is 316 not 3:16, and in the episode pronounced, flight three-one-six, not flight three-sixteen.
The biblical reference is clear but it wasn't called John 3:16. Check it out at abc.com.

Oh wow, you're totally right! I don't know where I got that from, but I was looking up the bible verse a couple weeks ago. Someone must have mentioned the connection at one point, when I was looking up upcoming episodes, and I just went with it. This whole time I thought it was called John 3:16!

[Rosebud]

Now I know either Locke is Jacobs son or Jacob is Locke's son...Locke is Jacob or Jacob is Locke...it makes sense.... John 3:16 I just love Locke ..and to know he gave me a big hug...he is the best...

[when am i?]

Now I know either Locke is Jacobs son or Jacob is Locke's son...Locke is Jacob or Jacob is Locke...it makes sense.... John 3:16 I just love Locke ..and to know he gave me a big hug...he is the best...


Congrats for meeting Terry,you are so lucky,I would like to meet him too.

As for 316,I don't think it has anything to do with the bible but IT WAS TAKEN FROM THE NUMBERS
4,8,15,16,23,42.

3 is from the 23 and 16 is clear.
815 is also from those numbers,which is clear.

[Rosebud]

Terry is also a very caring human being...I sense it right away...very gracious loving person...I did get an autograph but didn't even think of getting a picture I wasn't very happy...maybe one day I will get to meet him again and get a picture..his family lives close to me so who know ...it would be a dream come true..I was so upset when I didn't get a picture..DAAAA how can I be so excited not to think of it and he was even on first class on our plane on the way back home...geeee...

[losttime]

it was yes

Actually the title of the episode was just "316"

[Chronos]

I don't know if anyone noticed it or not, but the other day I thinking about the number of the plane that took everybody back to the island. If you put Locke's name in front of it, you get John 3:16 a passage from the bible that reads "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." I think by the writers throwing something like that into the series only further supports Locke's uniqueness.

I posted about this a couple of weeks ago, search the archives.

I think the writers are also pointing to scripture in that the "only begotten Son" was raised from the dead... not unlike John Locke.

[LincolnEcho06]

A number can't be separated if you're using the disaster numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42. The Guam flight # was 316 and the title is more relevant to the bible verse and John's importance (and I'm sure Terry O'Quinn is great). That Denver airport is out in the middle no where, they could've put that closer to something.

[TheSilhouetteofVengeance]

Actually the title of the episode was just "316"

This whole time I thought it was John 316 guess I just assumed but thanks for correcting me.

A number can't be separated if you're using the disaster numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42. The Guam flight # was 316 and the title is more relevant to the bible verse and John's importance (and I'm sure Terry O'Quinn is great). That Denver airport is out in the middle no where, they could've put that closer to something.

I agree the title is more relevant to the bible verse. Not sure how you would get 316 out of the numbers.

[Slimcowboy]

Terry is also a very caring human being...I sense it right away...very gracious loving person...I did get an autograph but didn't even think of getting a picture I wasn't very happy...maybe one day I will get to meet him again and get a picture..his family lives close to me so who know ...it would be a dream come true..I was so upset when I didn't get a picture..DAAAA how can I be so excited not to think of it and he was even on first class on our plane on the way back home...geeee...

prepare to be jealous:

i live right around the area that Terry is original from, and still resides. I have a good friend who works at a grocery store that Terry frequents when he is home. I've seen him on a number of occasions, and have had a few passing conversations with him. Home town Hero!

[when am i?]

This whole time I thought it was John 316 guess I just assumed but thanks for correcting me.



I agree the title is more relevant to the bible verse. Not sure how you would get 316 out of the numbers.

Already told you,3 is taken from the 23 and placed before the 16 and 815 is clear.
Also if you add the numbers they total 108,which is also the number of days after the Oceanic 6 left the island.
But if you insist on biblical verses then what does verse 8:15 say?

[TheSilhouetteofVengeance]

I don't think the number are suppose to be broken up I think 23 would remain 23. Just my opinion though.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

– John 3:16

also

The translated greek version which I believe relates more so to lost

For in this way God loved the world: that he gave the unique son, so that all the ones trusting in him would not perish, but have eternal life.

[when am i?]

I wanted to know what verse of the bible 815 would relate to and what it would say.
Already know john 3:16,as it is well known.

[TheSilhouetteofVengeance]

I wanted to know what verse of the bible 815 would relate to and what it would say.
Already know john 3:16,as it is well known.

Oh sorry I don't believe 815 has anything to do with the bible I actually think 815 had to do with the numbers since there is an 8 and a 15 in them. I was only referring to 316. I think that one episode to me was clear that is was based around John 3:16. That's what I personally took from it.

[Turnip Queen]

Oh yeah, I had checked up on that when that episode came out, I love the biblical references in this show! I think they really show John to be almost like Jesus: tested, and having to sacrifice himself, and everlasting life!

[LostandAlone]

For what it's worth, John 8:15 says:
You make judgements in a purely human way; I pass judgement on no one. (Jesus speaking)
I doubt it has anything to do with Lost though.

[MagicoA]

If you translate it from original greek it's read as "For in this way God loved the world: that he gave the unique son, so that all the ones trusting in him would not perish, but have eternal life."

so that all the ones trusting him would not perish, the losties YAY! that makes sense good job dammon, JJ and other writers

[MagicoA]

Already told you,3 is taken from the 23 and placed before the 16 and 815 is clear.
Also if you add the numbers they total 108,which is also the number of days after the Oceanic 6 left the island.
But if you insist on biblical verses then what does verse 8:15 say?

yeah i dont find it coincidental they were rescued on day 108 but just since some1 might do it john 1:08 "He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light." that kind of applies some1 tell me if that makes sense w/lost to u

[revror]

The episode was full of connections from John's Gospel.

[Rosebud]

OK, slimcowboy..we need to get in touch with each other privately..you can go to rmconway50@gmail.com so we can talk...OK...don't forget..it is important..

[Linus_Security Blanket]

Already told you,3 is taken from the 23 and placed before the 16 and 815 is clear.
Also if you add the numbers they total 108,which is also the number of days after the Oceanic 6 left the island.
But if you insist on biblical verses then what does verse 8:15 say?

no offense, but i dont think it works like that. in the number 8 comes immediately before the 15. i would understand your arguement if the plane going back was 342, or better still if it was 2342. but i think the bible argument is stronger. i dont think you can arbitrarily pull a number out and make it something (like the 3 from 23). because then you can do that with anything- the number contain all numerals except 7 and 9....)

[Turnip Queen]

I think they even deliberately make some of the Lost characters like people from the bible: Locke is like Jesus, because of the sacrifices he's had to make, Jack is like Doubting Thomas.

Most of the time Claire has worn a baby blue colour throughout the show, so she's like the virgin Mary carrying the special child.

[sirchin]

Actually the title of the episode was just "316"

Yes it was and Ben's story of the apostle Thomas, was his way of telling Jack, that "HE" Jack I mean, was a doubting Thomas. that he was of little faith.

[[T]he[L]amppost]

I love how this show really keys in on the whole "Man of science, man of faith" aspect, what with all the religous referances, from multiple cultures, as well as all the scientific themes, and peramiters. It's all quite interesting.