The oceanic six

[Chridde]

How are the people in the oceanic six?

There´s kate, jack and hurley......

[sdconnorstl36]

Sayed is another, the last two have not been revealed, but there are a lot of possibilities, I am thinking along the lines of Bernard and Rose

[jacksnurse]

possibly jin and sun....to save the baby....but i hear that aaron is one leading us to believe that something is going to happen to claire...is aaron one of the six though because he wasn't "really" on the plane...he was in utero

[Dzbabykel]

I'm leaning towards sun because everyone knows she's pregnant so they would want to save her and the baby which means I would assume the 6th person to be Jin since Sun would never want to leave without him. I couldn't imagine them separating Claire and Aaron so I'm confused as to what could happen to them?

[oceanicsix]

How are the people in the oceanic six?

There´s kate, jack and hurley......

Hurley, Jack and Sayid are the only ones to be officially revealed as members of the Oceanic Six. I'm still on the fence about Kate. After watching "The Economist" it's pretty clear that they *can* get off the island, if Ben is able to come and go as he did before. I'm beginning to think that only 6 were rescued publicly and that some others may have found other ways to get back (ie: Kate). Jack speaks to her as if she is in hiding or as if she isn't already aware of the perks that he gets as a recipient of the Oceanic settlement.

Ultimately, though, the Oceanic Six are definitely protecting their friends who are either mostly, or all still back on the island and now wish to stay there (hence Sayid's working for Ben).

I too believe that Aaron can't be one of the Oceanic Six since he never bought a ticket for the flight, and Rose would rather stay on the island since her cancer seems to have gone away (same boat as Locke).

Liam

[lilCrazydude]

also people are just talking about the OCEANIC wat about poeple like desmond,Ben,Jullete,and others that wernt on the plane....i think there are at least another trip back to the island....to save more people

[heavensprincess]

I agree definately more people get off the island than just the 6. Obviously Ben but I think Desmond too. I think the last two spots for the six are Sun and Claire or Sun and Jin.

[lostfan]

Hurley, Jack and Sayid are the only ones to be officially revealed as members of the Oceanic Six. I'm still on the fence about Kate. After watching "The Economist" it's pretty clear that they *can* get off the island, if Ben is able to come and go as he did before. I'm beginning to think that only 6 were rescued publicly and that some others may have found other ways to get back (ie: Kate). Jack speaks to her as if she is in hiding or as if she isn't already aware of the perks that he gets as a recipient of the Oceanic settlement.

Ultimately, though, the Oceanic Six are definitely protecting their friends who are either mostly, or all still back on the island and now wish to stay there (hence Sayid's working for Ben).

I too believe that Aaron can't be one of the Oceanic Six since he never bought a ticket for the flight, and Rose would rather stay on the island since her cancer seems to have gone away (same boat as Locke).

Liam

But when Jack says "We weren't supposed to leave"(the island) Why does she say "Yes we were". Plus they confirmed for sure she's part of the 6 when they showed what next week's episode is about.(Kate's flashforward)

[heavensprincess]

But when Jack says "We weren't supposed to leave"(the island) Why does she say "Yes we were". Plus they confirmed for sure she's part of the 6 when they showed what next week's episode is about.(Kate's flashforward)

Yeah I agree Kate is definately part of the 6.

[lostfan]

I agree definately more people get off the island than just the 6. Obviously Ben but I think Desmond too. I think the last two spots for the six are Sun and Claire or Sun and Jin.

I think Desmond def. gets off so he can see Penny since she's been looking for him for so long. And I think Sun and Jin make it back.

[heavensprincess]

I only say Claire because didn't Desmond have a vision of her and Aaron leaving on the helicopter? I do think though def Sun because she is pregnant.

[elliemay]

with regards to Aaron and Claire,I seem to remember way back in the early episodes when we had claires Flash back to before the crash the psychic she saw told her something about her unborn baby not being supposed to be brought up by anyone else or with anyone else! Sorry this isnt very clear but I cant remember exactly what was said.... anyone else remember? I'm sure it could turn out to be relevant!!:confused:

[lostfan]

with regards to Aaron and Claire,I seem to remember way back in the early episodes when we had claires Flash back to before the crash the psychic she saw told her something about her unborn baby not being supposed to be brought up by anyone else or with anyone else! Sorry this isnt very clear but I cant remember exactly what was said.... anyone else remember? I'm sure it could turn out to be relevant!!:confused:

Maybe that guy said that. But in Echo's flashback he meets that guy and the guy admits to being a fake and just taking peoples money.

[WhalerDO]

I think DZ had something when she talked about the submarine and John Locke. She posted it under a different headline, but basically the theory is that Locke never really blew up the submarine, and so if that theory is true it could explain how others on the Island can potentially get off

[heavensprincess]

He said at first the baby had to be brought up by her and only her. I can't remember if she went back to him or he found her that he was mistaken and that there was a family in L.A. willing to adopt the baby but she had to be on that flight. I assume he had a vision of the plane crashing.

[lostfan]

I think DZ had something when she talked about the submarine and John Locke. She posted it under a different headline, but basically the theory is that Locke never really blew up the submarine, and so if that theory is true it could explain how others on the Island can potentially get off

I've heard this theory before also. And I'm starting to believe it. Because if you watch that episode Locke is completely drenched -when he get's caught by the Others -like he'd just gotten out of the water. But he was inside the sub so why would he be all wet. He might have put the C4 on someplace else and blown that up.

[lostfan]

He said at first the baby had to be brought up by her and only her. I can't remember if she went back to him or he found her that he was mistaken and that there was a family in L.A. willing to adopt the baby but she had to be on that flight. I assume he had a vision of the plane crashing.

I think he made this all up. He met Echo and said he was a phony psyhic and took peoples money.

[heavensprincess]

I think he made this all up. He met Echo and said he was a phony psyhic and took peoples money.

I remember that but I think something happened and he had a real vision. I just don't think it was a coincidence.

[PacmanIsLost]

i think kate gets off the island with the oceanic 6 but is not one of them because jack talks about how they "gave us" the golden ticket which would imply that she didn't get one and because i don't think the airline could bring a convict back and say hey here's a survivor let's make her famous.... someone probably cuts a deal for her so she can change identities or something... i think sun is one of the 6 so she can save her baby and obviously jin would go as well.... i think aaron could get named one of the 6 because he was in utero on the plane and they could just come back and say that the mother died during childbirth on the island.... i think that their big secret they are hiding is that there are a slew of other people still alive on the island

[rabbitgem]

Just a question that has occurred to me. The losties know nothing about the future Oceanic Settlement that evidently comes in to play. If they are anticipating getting off the island, wouldn't at least one of them think of the diamonds that were tossed into the grave of the couple who were paralyzed by the spiders? It was a fortune and it is just sitting there for anyone to dig up. With all the secret and troubled pasts of these people, you would think they would want to have some bank to pave their way!

[lostfan11]

but desmond isn't one of the oceanic 6 he was'nt even on the plane

[oceanicsix]

But when Jack says "We weren't supposed to leave"(the island) Why does she say "Yes we were". Plus they confirmed for sure she's part of the 6 when they showed what next week's episode is about.(Kate's flashforward)

Ah, I didn't see the preview. There goes that idea...
I still think there's something up with her though...

Liam

[avj]

Hurley, Jack, Sayid and Kate are definatly back

the other 2 my guess is Sun and maybe Sawyer or Locke (Locke to add a twist in the tale...)

[nascarpepper]

All this talk about Sayid being one of the 6? I don't think he is. Isn't he on the run? Hurley and Jack are clearly of the 6. But it seems that Sayid may be hidden with Ben?? Any thoughts?

[Junkhead]

All this talk about Sayid being one of the 6? I don't think he is. Isn't he on the run? Hurley and Jack are clearly of the 6. But it seems that Sayid may be hidden with Ben?? Any thoughts?

It's possible that he was lying when he said that he was one of the 6...but then again with him going to the freighter now, there's a good chance that he gets off the island in a way that makes it publicly known.

[itsalldark]

All this talk about Sayid being one of the 6? I don't think he is. Isn't he on the run? Hurley and Jack are clearly of the 6. But it seems that Sayid may be hidden with Ben?? Any thoughts?

Sayid is definitely one of the six. He even mentions it himself when he is talking to the gentleman on the golf course -- before he kills him.

[nascarpepper]

That's right. It makes sense. I forgot about that.

[nascarpepper]

But we are only sure about 3 of them: Kate, Sayid, Hurley. Kate hasn't been said to be one of them. We know she gets off the island but she has to be living in secret off the island. I think we don't need to try and name just 2 here. But 3.

[oceanicsix]

But we are only sure about 3 of them: Kate, Sayid, Hurley. Kate hasn't been said to be one of them. We know she gets off the island but she has to be living in secret off the island. I think we don't need to try and name just 2 here. But 3.

I agree. I think they're going to surprise us with the sixth and final Oceanic "survivor" - that is, someone you would least expect. Locke seems the best choice for wow-factor, but I really don't think he would leave. Of course, if he's anything like Sayid, he might end up teaming up with Ben to protect the island.

Liam

[nascarpepper]

I can't see Locke teaming up with Ben to protect the island. Unless Locke stays on the island and Ben is off. The two work together or something. Just unlikely. But it could be a big spin for Locke to be the 6th one. Does that mean that Claire isn't it? Hmm... If Jack somehow figures out that Claire is his half sister, wouldn't he make sure that her and HIS nephew get off the island?

[crosinuup25]

everyone is forgetting why Charlie gave his life. Desmond told him he had a vision of claire getting on a hellicopter and it could only happen if charlie dies. so I would assume that claire is on of the 6, including Aaron becuse he doesnt really count as one since he was born on the island.

[Dzbabykel]

No I completely agree but part of me feels like Claire is too obvious.....hmm who knows?

[nascarpepper]

Good point. Claire is def one then. I think atleast!

[itsalldark]

everyone is forgetting why Charlie gave his life. Desmond told him he had a vision of claire getting on a hellicopter and it could only happen if charlie dies. so I would assume that claire is on of the 6, including Aaron becuse he doesnt really count as one since he was born on the island.

Desmond did say that things do not always happen exactly the way he sees it happen, but you would think that Claire might be a strong choice to be one of the six.

I think we can be pretty sure about these four of the Oceanic Six: Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid.

The last two have to be people who were on the flight. In other words, it can't be Desmond, Juliette, Ben, or Aaron. I think it should also be someone who really does want to leave. So it would not be Sawyer or Locke. That leaves Rose and Bernard, Sun and Jin. Maybe Claire, but I can't say for sure Claire wants to leave. She did go off with Locke and the people in his group seem to want to stay.

Between Rose and Bernard, Sun and Jin, I think Sun and Jin will be the ones to leave because Sun is having a baby and pregnant women die on the island. If Sun goes, I don't think that she would leave without Jin. I also don't think that Jin would let Sun go alone. Besides, even though Bernard may want to go, Rose does not really want to leave the island. Like Locke's group, she wants to stay on the island. She just did not want to go anywhere with "that man" Locke.

[PacmanIsLost]

Aaron was on the plane, just not born yet... and i think it would be more understandable for a baby born on the island to be one of the six than for a fugitive to be set free and publicized as one of the six... but maybe they both get off and one is counted and the other isn't...

[heavensprincess]

Desmond did say that things do not always happen exactly the way he sees it happen, but you would think that Claire might be a strong choice to be one of the six.

I think we can be pretty sure about these four of the Oceanic Six: Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid.

The last two have to be people who were on the flight. In other words, it can't be Desmond, Juliette, Ben, or Aaron. I think it should also be someone who really does want to leave. So it would not be Sawyer or Locke. That leaves Rose and Bernard, Sun and Jin. Maybe Claire, but I can't say for sure Claire wants to leave. She did go off with Locke and the people in his group seem to want to stay.

Between Rose and Bernard, Sun and Jin, I think Sun and Jin will be the ones to leave because Sun is having a baby and pregnant women die on the island. If Sun goes, I don't think that she would leave without Jin. I also don't think that Jin would let Sun go alone. Besides, even though Bernard may want to go, Rose does not really want to leave the island. Like Locke's group, she wants to stay on the island. She just did not want to go anywhere with "that man" Locke.


I agree Sun and Jin are the last of the 6. Just hard to get passed the vision Desmond had of Claire and the baby leaving on the helicopter.

[PacmanIsLost]

well if you find it hard to forget desmond's vision, just remember that he said he had a vision of penny parachuting onto the island and that didn't work out very well...so maybe he only ends up being half right and aaron leaves but claire doesn't

[heavensprincess]

I think his visions are accurate he was just changing them by changing the events that led up to it. That's why Charlie had to die in my opinion anyway but we will find out. For now i'm going with Jin and Sun being the last of the 6.

[lostlindy]

I agree! I often wonder if he had let Charlie die in the jungle if that wouldn't have been Penny. I think he realized he had to let it happen this time so his vision would be correct. Think back to the man with the red shoes.

[drew102e]

we still havent seen kate as one of the 6 yet, we had hurley sayiid and jack confirmed so far and thats it, either we get a kate centric FF episode in the next few weeks or she got off the island some other way...maybe

[LostFreak21]

Maybe that guy said that. But in Echo's flashback he meets that guy and the guy admits to being a fake and just taking peoples money.

He just said that he was a fake so they wouldn't ask him anymore questions. I think he is actually working with the others. There are some things about him if you put his name in and look on wikipedia.

[LostFreak21]

Sayid is definitely one of the six. He even mentions it himself when he is talking to the gentleman on the golf course -- before he kills him.

Maybe that is why the golfer looks at him weird because he wasn't one of the 6 publicly.

[thelawgiver]

I still say Kate is an Oceanic 6, but as Claire. And she will have Aaron with her. In Claire's FBs, Claire has dark hair. But Kate is identified and somehow exposed. Let's see if Thursday proves me wrong, because I think this episode is a Kate FF.

[Junkhead]

Hey Patchy, outta curiousity, you get your SN from the WoW ad?

[thelawgiver]

SN?
WoW?

More detail

[Junkhead]

Heh heh, my bad. Screen name and World of Warcraft.

[thelawgiver]

Okay. From The Planet of the Apes movies. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawgiver_%28Planet_of_the_Apes%29

[Junkhead]

Ahh, right on. Here's a link to what I was talkin' about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjCc4d5j3Mo

[Dzbabykel]

Haha and here I thought Patchy was a lawyer....boy was I off :p

[Junkhead]

I went the online videogame route...I was off by JUST a bit.:rolleyes:

[lepre]

I agree Sun and Jin are the last of the 6. Just hard to get passed the vision Desmond had of Claire and the baby leaving on the helicopter.

Something to throw out there. Desmond has a vision of Claire getting on a helicopter and assumes she gets rescued. But isn't there a possibility that she leaves the island to go to the freighter, thinking it would lead to rescue? Just because Desmond sees her get off the island doesn't necessarily mean she'll be going home and thus becoming an oceanic six.

[justjoe]

Something to throw out there. Desmond has a vision of Claire getting on a helicopter and assumes she gets rescued. But isn't there a possibility that she leaves the island to go to the freighter, thinking it would lead to rescue? Just because Desmond sees her get off the island doesn't necessarily mean she'll be going home and thus becoming an oceanic six.

This to me seems plausible.

[Lost in VA]

But it has been mentioned that while she leaves the Island on the helicopter,
something may happen to her on the way.

[heavensprincess]

Something to throw out there. Desmond has a vision of Claire getting on a helicopter and assumes she gets rescued. But isn't there a possibility that she leaves the island to go to the freighter, thinking it would lead to rescue? Just because Desmond sees her get off the island doesn't necessarily mean she'll be going home and thus becoming an oceanic six.

Good point. Makes Desmonds vision accurate but her not part of the 6..makes sense to me.

[ammers]

First post whoowhoo!

I think Sayer is one of the 6. When kate meets Jack at the airport she says -I have to go he'll be waiting for me - "He" is obviously someone from the Island that Jack knows...
:confused:

[jackchick]

I think that Sawyer does go back too but because of Kate...But the idea she's back but under duress because Ben has a hold on her in some way is plausible. I think something happens on the freighter because of Ben's comment, "you remember what happened last time you used your heart and not your gun." I do wonder how they get around the found your wreckage but hey, your ok from an island many miles away!

[justjoe]

People people people. Trust me Sun and Jin are the final 2. Sawyer stays.

[ammers]

Yeah is it Ben that she is referring to or is it Sawyer? Its got to be one of the two. I origionally thought Sawyer but changed my mind after this weeks episode, it could be Ben.
Also, why did Jack say that he keeps taking a flight & wants it to crash, does he think thats how he gets back? Or did I pick that bit up wrong?

[Junkhead]

Yeah is it Ben that she is referring to or is it Sawyer? Its got to be one of the two. I origionally thought Sawyer but changed my mind after this weeks episode, it could be Ben.
Also, why did Jack say that he keeps taking a flight & wants it to crash, does he think thats how he gets back? Or did I pick that bit up wrong?

I think he's just really depressed and I think the way he sees it, he'll either crash which he would of course be happy about or maybe crash and die and it would end his misery. He definitely seems pretty miserable at this point. Also, I don't think he really has an idea of any other way to get back other than crashing. Or maybe he has an idea, just not the ability to make it happen, so he just decides to utilize his Gold Pass.

[justjoe]

He was hoping for the plane to crash so he could get back to the island. He even said as much.

[lepre]

I don't think that. Kate is referring to Sawyer or Ben when she's talking to Jack at the airport. I personally don't believe that Kate is one of the oceanic six. I believe that however she got off the island was not as a part of the o6. Being that she was a fugitive beforehand would still make her one coming back. Now, we all know that Kate is quite the con artist. I think that she assumes a new identity like she has in the past and everyone in her ff life has no idea that she was on the island. Hence why she has told jack not to call her and also why she says she has to get back to "him," him being someone from her "new" life that would have no idea as to who jack was in relation to her and why she would be meeting him. I also think that at least sun gets off due to the baby. I would also be curious to see if Michael and Walt could be a part of the oceanic six.

[PacmanIsLost]

walt doesn't really want to leave, and if sun goes, jin goes too, i don't think there is any way around that... so that makes 6 including kate so i guess you could throw in one extra if you're like me and don't think she would be technically allowed to be one of the oceanic 6.... i think in terms of need, aaron would get preferential treatment because it would be hard to raise a baby on the island...but who knows.... i'm also in the camp that thinks richard malking meant don't let the baby be raised by "an other" not "another" but who knows, i guess we'll probably be finding out in the next few weeks...perhaps this week since it's supposed to be a kate-centric episode

[lepre]

I also agree that Aaron will leave the island but I don't think he'd be a part of the oceanic 6 because of how he wasn't on the manifest. I also don't think that preferential treatment is going to necessarily play a part in people getting off the island. I think that people are going to either manipulate situations to get off or other survivors will make sacrifices to some of them off the island. That's what I feel will happen with sun and jin. I don't think he's an o6 but I feel he may do something to ensure sun and their baby get off.

[heavensprincess]

I also agree that Aaron will leave the island but I don't think he'd be a part of the oceanic 6 because of how he wasn't on the manifest. I also don't think that preferential treatment is going to necessarily play a part in people getting off the island. I think that people are going to either manipulate situations to get off or other survivors will make sacrifices to some of them off the island. That's what I feel will happen with sun and jin. I don't think he's an o6 but I feel he may do something to ensure sun and their baby get off.

I think the 6 are chosen by someone whoever it may be to leave the island. I don't see Jack or even Kate leaving before everyone else gets off (the people wanting to leave the island that is).

[PacmanIsLost]

well since we can discount the other 20 or 30+ people that are extras, we've got about a dozen real candidates... we know jack, sayid, and hurley are definitely Oceanic 6 members... and we know kate gets back and may or may not be one... i think certain people like Locke, Rose (and thus Bernard), Walt, Sawyer, etc...have a vested interest in wanting to stay on the island... the only person with a pressing need to get off is Sun so that she doesn't die... and as i said before i think Sun and Jin are a package deal... so then if there is a 7th person that gets to go to round out the Oceanic 6 (or to be an extra 7th if kate is allowed to be in it) then Aaron seems the most likely candidate since he would have the most next pressing need to leave the island and both he and Kate have reasons why they could go back and either be a part of the Oceanic 6 or not be a part...Kate because she's a fugitive and Aaron because he was in utero...i think Kate and Aaron's status is essentially interchangeable because of these reasons and also because it would be amazing PR for Oceanic if these people managed to deliver a baby on the island and then the mother died, or they could just say it's Kate's baby and they brought it back to civilization to lead a normal life (this might be a good explanation as to how they let her out of her legal troubles and then let her change her identity or something).... any thoughts?

[heavensprincess]

We are just assuming she is out of legal trouble. If she is part of the 6 I imagine she got lots of money from the settlement and money can get you out of a lot of things. Plus why would they take Aaron and not Claire? She isn't going to hand over her son.

[PacmanIsLost]

We are just assuming she is out of legal trouble. If she is part of the 6 I imagine she got lots of money from the settlement and money can get you out of a lot of things. Plus why would they take Aaron and not Claire? She isn't going to hand over her son.

Maybe Kate in all her criminal mindset decides to steal the baby to pretend it's hers and garner sympathy when she gets back so she can get out of her legal trouble...

Or maybe Claire gives him up because she wasn't that psyched about having a kid in the first place and wants him to have a good life back in the outside world and not grow up on an island...

Or maybe Claire comes along but falls off the helicopter/plane/boat while someone else is holding Aaron...

Obviously i'm just throwing out random ideas in hopes i hit on something :)

[heavensprincess]

Maybe Kate in all her criminal mindset decides to steal the baby to pretend it's hers and garner sympathy when she gets back so she can get out of her legal trouble...

Or maybe Claire gives him up because she wasn't that psyched about having a kid in the first place and wants him to have a good life back in the outside world and not grow up on an island...

Or maybe Claire comes along but falls off the helicopter/plane/boat while someone else is holding Aaron...

Obviously i'm just throwing out random ideas in hopes i hit on something :)

lol..i'm going with C..Claire falls out of the helicopter.

[PacmanIsLost]

yeah i think that's going to be a popular choice... i'm hoping my list of options will lead to this thread getting just as out of hand as a few of the other extended threads going right now

[heavensprincess]

I just don't see that as being a real option...Claire and Jack haven't discovered they are brother and sister yet plus i'll be pissed if they kill off Claire.

[PacmanIsLost]

interesting point, but maybe she doesn't come back with them...then jack finds out they were half-siblings when he gets back and that is what leads him to really wanting to go back so he can rescue his half-sister... sound a bit more plausible? guess it'll have to be option A or B then

[PacmanIsLost]

on the other hand, now that i think about it... i think the writers have shown us that they will show the audience these connections and never allow the characters to fully realize them... the most significant example that comes to mind is that Desmond sailing around in circles while Libby is assimilated into the Losties and then killed by Michael and buried and as soon as she is in the ground, Desmond shows back up...so he will never know that the woman who gave him his boat ended up on the very same island... so i think some of these connections are like treats for the viewer and perhaps hint at those types of things we just miss and never know in our own lives just as the survivors won't get to see all of their connections

[heavensprincess]

Oh very good point...that will kinda be disappointing if they never find out they are brother and sister though. Hoping thats to big of a connection to let die though.

[Junkhead]

Agreed, I've been hoping that Jack finds out somehow. Despite that, the whole doing it as a treat thing to the viewer's also makes a lot of sense.

[t33h33]

I can't see Locke teaming up with Ben to protect the island. Unless Locke stays on the island and Ben is off. The two work together or something. Just unlikely. But it could be a big spin for Locke to be the 6th one. Does that mean that Claire isn't it? Hmm... If Jack somehow figures out that Claire is his half sister, wouldn't he make sure that her and HIS nephew get off the island?

thats maybe why he needs to get back to the island so bad, if claire and aaron don't get off maybe he goes insane with guilt and releases he can only save people on the island or something along them lines

[boyo]

In the last Lost podcast the creators say that Kate IS one of the O 6

[justjoe]

Thank you boyo. remember these names. ;)

Kate
Jack
Hurley
Sayid
Sun
Jin

[PacmanIsLost]

i think that's spot on justjoe, and then the only extra person who could get thrown in without the manifest problem is aaron because he was born on the island while desmond, juliet, etc... would have a very hard time explaining why they were there...

[mahalo_dude]

Thank you boyo. remember these names. ;)

Kate
Jack
Hurley
Sayid
Sun
Jin


Those are my guesses. Actually, more than guesses.;)

[justjoe]

Don't mess with the New England connection. Glad you have my back boys.

[Quick Draw]

Joe I gotta say I like your picks for the six, since Sawyer and Locke obviously want to stay I can't think of six people I'd rather see get home. That being said I'm torn as to how Ben may or may not effect the line-up. If Ben is in fact one of the six as some have suggested I think that would negate Jin, cause trust me he will save his wife and unborn child. (I love so many characters but Jin is my dude, he'll come through). I can't see Ben being one of the six because I don't think he'll leave the island as long as the freighter people are there, plus knowing what we do about Ben it is easier to imagine him finding his own way off the island later than it is to suppose Kate gets herself back.

On another topic I wouldn't have a problem with Aaron coming back as an additional 7th (maybe they want to save him the notoriety that comes with the title) or maybe Kate comes back with them but is kept hush hush cause they want to avoid the bad PR of a criminal along side the "Heroes". Either way they could make room for Ben or Jin being part of the group. However I think assuming Aaron is the one Kate tells Jack will wonder where she is would be jumping the gun. It makes sense in a way but that could be misdirection. Shoot Kate could have met somebody who was never on the island that would be wondering about her. There are only a two reasonable ways that Aaron leaves the island. 1) Sun stays and Clair takes Aaron with the rest. 2) Clair is dead (my money is on Miles "accidently" shooting her). I don't see Kate stealing a baby, Kate is a big girl and would face the consequences before becoming a monster, I don't think Jack, Hurley, and Syide would condone baby theft, and don't forget the fugitive loner who couldn't even settle down when she was madly in love is more likely to be raising a child that Sawyer sired than to steal one for sympathy.

[justjoe]

I have a feeling Claire will die also. I think I said this before but the way Kate says he'll be wondering where I am it makes me assume that Jack knows who the "he" is so it's probably someone from the island.

[itsalldark]

i think that's spot on justjoe, and then the only extra person who could get thrown in without the manifest problem is aaron because he was born on the island while desmond, juliet, etc... would have a very hard time explaining why they were there...

I agree with you and justjoe about who the Oceanic 6 are. And I understand why Juliet would have a hard time explaining why she is there. But I wonder why you think Desmond would have a hard time explaining why he is there. I think he could easily claim that he was in a boat race, his boat went off course, he washed up on the island and has been there for a few years. However, he could not claim to be a member of the Oceanic 6.

[PacmanIsLost]

Well first of all, Ben can't be one of the six since he wasn't on the manifest... and he can obviously go back and forth freely so he would have no need to go back with them, nor would he want the publicity that came along with being one of the Oceanic 6 if he somehow posed as one of them....he's trying to fight a global war against another organization so he doesn't really want to be on their radar....

Juliet and Desmond could go back but neither of them could be of the Oceanic 6 since they weren't on the manifest...but it will be interesting to see who if anyone gets to go back to the outside world in addition to the Oceanic 6

[stargazer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Desmond tell Charlie that in one of his flashes he saw Claire and the baby get off the island? Or maybe he was just telling Charlie that to make him feel better.

[PacmanIsLost]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Desmond tell Charlie that in one of his flashes he saw Claire and the baby get off the island? Or maybe he was just telling Charlie that to make him feel better.

don't forget he also told charlie that he saw penny parachute onto the island.... so despite what he tries to do to change things...perhaps he's not always doing enough....

[werlost]

I think Claire will be one of the oceanic 6 based on Desmond's vision in Season 3 of her getting on a helicopter. Aaron will probably be with her but I dont think he's counted as one of the 6 because pretty much a baby and doesnt really count as a person yet. The other person not known yet is whoever Kate was talking about when she met Jack in the season finale. All we know is that its a man because she refers to them as he. However, I could be totally off on Claire because I think the other person besides Kate's "He" is whoever was the person who died and Jack goes to the funeral home or whatever and finds out no one showed and the person who works there asks Jack if he is friend or family and Jack says neither.

[Dharma Initiate 815]

I definetly want to know who the HE is and also is this bothering anyone esle? Who the heck was in the Coffin????

[justjoe]

So let's think of it this way. We know that it's a "he" Kate is referring to. It has to be someone Jack knows somehow or she would have stated it a different way like "I have to go, my husband will be wondering where I am". When you say "he", that infers to me that Jack knows who "he" is. The "he's" we know off island are Jack (not him obviously), Hurley and Sayid. The last 2 are Jin and Sun and it can't be Jin can it??? The more I think about it the more the Aaron angle makes sense and seeing as how I think Claire dies this would tie in. Maybe...

And to add on, Desmonds visions aren't always spot on so maybe he thought he saw Claire getting on the helicopter but it was actually Kate and Aaron.

[Dharma Initiate 815]

And remember that the psychic told Claire that the baby must not be raised by anyone else. Only her... so if he is "special" perhaps like Walt or maybe Miles, he could have some sort of control over Kate.

[justjoe]

Little brat!

[Lost in VA]

But of all the people why would Kate step up and take care of Aaron?
Wouldnt Sun be a more likely candidate, since she will soon be a mommy
anyway.

[drew102e]

makes for better tv???

[Dharma Initiate 815]

Or how about jack, considering he is the uncle???

[Lost in VA]

that was my next thought

[justjoe]

Jack doesn't know the he's the uncle. Sun and Jin are from Korea and they may have some cultural issues with daddy if they adopt a baby. Kate has maybe changed after the rescue and is ready to settle down. Seemed that way in Jacks FF at the airport.

[Dzbabykel]

I can't wait til Jack and Claire find out they're related....wow will that be a show! :eek:

[Dharma Initiate 815]

I know I think that will be great as well!!

[TSOL1]

So, Kate is officially one of the 6 now for all you doubters out there.

[Junkhead]

Yeppers...though I wonder if they're actually counting Aaron or not. I'm thinkin' not but ya never know. Technically he did survive the crash.

[Spicy563]

Sayed is another, the last two have not been revealed, but there are a lot of possibilities, I am thinking along the lines of Bernard and Rose

I'm not so sure that Sayed is one of the Oceanic 6. THe reason for this is we know he's working as a spy/assassin for Ben. Well, the main factor of a good assassin is that no one knows who you are! If we were one of the 6, that would mean that he's had media coverage. I think he just tells the guy on the golf course b/c he knows that he is going to kill him anyway. Did you see how spooked that guy was when Sayed told him he was part of the 6? I just don't think it's him. I may be way wrong though....

[heavensprincess]

I'm not so sure that Sayed is one of the Oceanic 6. THe reason for this is we know he's working as a spy/assassin for Ben. Well, the main factor of a good assassin is that no one knows who you are! If we were one of the 6, that would mean that he's had media coverage. I think he just tells the guy on the golf course b/c he knows that he is going to kill him anyway. Did you see how spooked that guy was when Sayed told him he was part of the 6? I just don't think it's him. I may be way wrong though....

They have already confirmed Sayid is one of the 6 but they guy was def spooked when he found out who Sayid was.

[agmic]

My take on the O6, Jack, Huely, Kate, Sayid. Don't think that Sawyer and Lock are part of this cause they didn't want to leave the island. The other 2, ummmm, let's see, one of them dies (Jack's flash foward and the funeral home). Or could that have been one of the others. Cause Jack didn't seem to want to see them at first.... So, I'm back up to 2. That's a tuffy. Michael and Walt seem to be a logical chose. But so are Sun and Jin and Ross and her husband. Don't know about the last 2 of the O6????

[heavensprincess]

My take on the O6, Jack, Huely, Kate, Sayid. Don't think that Sawyer and Lock are part of this cause they didn't want to leave the island. The other 2, ummmm, let's see, one of them dies (Jack's flash foward and the funeral home). Or could that have been one of the others. Cause Jack didn't seem to want to see them at first.... So, I'm back up to 2. That's a tuffy. Michael and Walt seem to be a logical chose. But so are Sun and Jin and Ross and her husband. Don't know about the last 2 of the O6????

I'm thinking Sun and Jin because of the baby. Rose I think wants to stay on the island..she just went with Jack because she didn't want to go with Locke and Michael and Walt are already off the island as far as we know. Maybe they are part of the 8 and they are the two that supposedly didn't make it.

[ozzydog]

Kate has a really nice house that she must have bought with the settlement money from the plane crash. They would still have to give her a part of the settlement even though she is a criminal. She has to be one of the 6. The last 2 will be
Sun and Jin I think.

[islander]

i agree - rose wants to stay on the island because, like locke, she's now healthy.

[Vincent_the_Dog]

I think Dr. Christian Shepard is one of the Oceanic Six.

[thelawgiver]

Sayid tells people why they recognize him, being one of the O6. So Sayid is an O6. Each season four episode so far has disclosed the O6, one by one in flash forwards

[agmic]

I think Dr. Christian Shepard is one of the Oceanic Six.



who is Dr. Christian Shepard ?

[heavensprincess]

who is Dr. Christian Shepard ?

Jack and Claires dad.

[thelawgiver]

You have a lot of cactching up to do. It is Jack's dad. He died in Australia and Jack was bringing the body home on flight 815. In some FF, Jack refers to his dad as if he is alive, ergo the speculation.