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FanFiltration
03-14-2009, 01:00 PM
I'm trying to come up with a theory about Caesar, Elanna (and possibly Roxann if she is connected with them). Elanna and Caesar seemed to know each other very well in the Hydra Station scene, and this is what I came up with so far.


I was just thinking that Caesar, Roxann, and Elanna where all part of some terrorist team who may have somehow known Sayid from the passed, and met him in L.A. the night before the flight. they somehow talked him into helping or blackmailing him to go along with them in some plot. I would think that this terrorist team would be after the H-bomb on the island, and they intend to use it for some bad use that could start a war. How they found out about the bomb and island is unknown, but we know the island is known by outsiders including the U.S. Government (and anyone who could get a hold of their files on the island).

How does this sound?

Here's a second thought. Could Caesar be Hurley's son? Would his age be right if he was born around 78-79? And if Elanna is Caesar's sister, that would mean Hurley was a busy bee back in the DHARMA day's.

LostandAlone
03-14-2009, 01:45 PM
I'm thinking Hurley was born in L.A. in the 70's, how could he have grown children and I don't think he was there part of Dharma days. I think his first trip to the island was the Oceanic crash. That's what I'm thinking. Terrorists? I'm not feelin' that either.

FanFiltration
03-14-2009, 02:36 PM
I'm thinking Hurley was born in L.A. in the 70's, how could he have grown children and I don't think he was there part of Dharma days. I think his first trip to the island was the Oceanic crash. That's what I'm thinking. Terrorists? I'm not feelin' that either.

You are watching the same show right? Hurley is in 1977 right Now, he just got there with Kate and and Jack two episodes ago. Jinn picked them up in the DHARMA bus, and now Sawyer just met up with them in the last episode LeFleur. So Hurley most certainly could father a child in the Dharma days of the late 70's or early 80's, and have that kid grow up to be around 30 years old in 2009.

DeathMag84
03-14-2009, 03:05 PM
I'm trying to come up with a theory about Caesar, Elanna (and possibly Roxann if she is connected with them). Elanna and Caesar seemed to know each other very well in the Hydra Station scene, and this is what I came up with so far.


I was just thinking that Caesar, Roxann, and Elanna where all part of some terrorist team who may have somehow known Sayid from the passed, and met him in L.A. the night before the flight. they somehow talked him into helping or blackmailing him to go along with them in some plot. I would think that this terrorist team would be after the H-bomb on the island, and they intend to use it for some bad use that could start a war. How they found out about the bomb and island is unknown, but we know the island is known by outsiders including the U.S. Government (and anyone who could get a hold of their files on the island).

How does this sound?

Here's a second thought. Could Caesar be Hurley's son? Would his age be right if he was born around 78-79? And if Elanna is Caesar's sister, that would mean Hurley was a busy bee back in the DHARMA day's.
Terrorists? What is this, 24? Get real

FanFiltration
03-14-2009, 03:26 PM
Terrorists? What is this, 24? Get real
Then how about a team of American Government agents sent to recover the H-bomb? Yes that's it, covert U.S. military Black Ops.
And by the way, I've never seen "24". I assume there are terrorists on that show...

[T]he[L]amppost
03-14-2009, 03:54 PM
Terrorists? What is this, 24? Get real

No need to antagonize. Seriously. We've seen smoke monsters, Egyptian statues, a time travaling island, and much more. So really? Is this theory out of the realms of possibility? =/

As for the theory, i'd assume there's more of a chance it's the government that terrorist.

We'll just have to see, eh?

DeathMag84
03-14-2009, 04:23 PM
he[L]amppost;170804']No need to antagonize. Seriously. We've seen smoke monsters, Egyptian statues, a time travaling island, and much more. So really? Is this theory out of the realms of possibility? =/

As for the theory, i'd assume there's more of a chance it's the government that terrorist.

We'll just have to see, eh?
Yeah we've seen what you said. But where does terrorists fit in on a SCIENCE-FICTION show? That would be just plain stupid, its bad enough i got to hear about this terrorism crap in the news the last place i want to hear about it is in Lost. Antagonizing? No just common sense.

FanFiltration
03-14-2009, 05:29 PM
Yeah we've seen what you said. But where does terrorists fit in on a SCIENCE-FICTION show? That would be just plain stupid, its bad enough i got to hear about this terrorism crap in the news the last place i want to hear about it is in Lost. Antagonizing? No just common sense.

Sorry to tell you this , but they have already had a full episode with terrorists as a main plot point. The one that stands out in my mind at the moment is "The Greater Good", the twenty-first episode of Season 1. So I guess having a few terrorist characters is not so beyond LOST after all. :rolleyes:

Ted "lost one" Digsol
03-14-2009, 06:20 PM
i don't think the h bomb is going to play as big a part in the story as some may think , i believe it is quite possible that "jughead" was sealed and burried, and won't play much of a role in the way the show plays out. i'm sure many will disagree with that idea ,(but that's what i think) and as for caesar ,roxann and elanna being terrorists? maybe, maybe not who knows? l

beachblinkette
03-14-2009, 06:58 PM
Just some trivia here. Ilana's name means tree and is of Hebrew origin. Caesar's name comes from Latin and means thick head of hair.

The toes on the statue are fat chunky ones and the foot is wearing a sandal---very unlike the thinner, streamlined bare feet of the Egyptian statues--- as far as I can tell from their pictures, IMO. The foot looks very Roman/Spartan to me. I don't think it is connected to the Egyptian statue at all. My opinion.:)

chester
03-14-2009, 07:17 PM
Yeah we've seen what you said. But where does terrorists fit in on a SCIENCE-FICTION show? That would be just plain stupid, its bad enough i got to hear about this terrorism crap in the news the last place i want to hear about it is in Lost. Antagonizing? No just common sense.

So could you rationally explain why this theory could not be the case, without getting all emotional about it? It's douches like you that stops people from expressing their ideas, and I thought that was what this forum was all about - for people to ratioanally discuss their ideas about this show.

Ted "lost one" Digsol
03-14-2009, 07:30 PM
well said chester !

when am i?
03-14-2009, 08:44 PM
I don't think they are terrroists,besides ep 1.22 was about a terrorist plot in Sydney in Sayyid's flashback,before he reached the island.
The H-bomb was probably buried and made inactive back in 1954,how would they reactivate it?how would they know where it is buried?
Besides why would terrorists want to bomb the island?they have bigger targets to think about.

rainmandan
03-14-2009, 09:02 PM
how do u know first of all that these people r working together, i dont think their terrorist they might no t be good guys but not terrorist, either way we dont know enough. and second how can hurley be the father of these 2 when the could b in the 70s as well? makes no sense? hurley might still b a virgin.

Baibe
03-14-2009, 10:07 PM
Did I miss something... who is Roxann?

At first I thought Ceasar and Ilana was working together because they did seem close but I think in the unseen story of the 316ers that they just did what they do and became leaders. But seeing as tho I don't actually know what Ceasar does, and Ilana is a marshall, it seems Ilana should be the one in charge unless he was her undercover officer in case things got hard with Sayid.

FanFiltration
03-14-2009, 10:09 PM
I don't think they are terrroists,besides ep 1.22 was about a terrorist plot in Sydney in Sayyid's flashback,before he reached the island.
The H-bomb was probably buried and made inactive back in 1954,how would they reactivate it?how would they know where it is buried?
Besides why would terrorists want to bomb the island?they have bigger targets to think about.

I was just saying that it's not so far fetched to have terrorists in LOST. Not that a terrorist group (if now part of the story with the 316 people) would have had anything to do with the terrorist group from that season one episode. I'm sure that there is more then one terrorist network in the world. But anyway it was very early in the morning and I had just got done re-watching all the season 5 episodes 1 - 8, and that idea had popped into my head. But I do think "Jughead" still being on the island is going to have something more to do with the overall story before the entire series over.

DeathMag84
03-15-2009, 04:11 PM
Chester you and FanFiltation y'all just don't get it. I don't need explain crap to y'all about why i don't think this is the case. I'm tired of setting here wasting time on this STUPID subject when all i'm saying is that it's stupid to theorize that these people (Caeser and Elanna) are terrorists, don't you think it's bad enough we got to hear about that crap every day in the real world? Yeah Sayid this or Sayid that blah blah. Plus that would be just uncalled for for a plot line to the story of LOST, so yeah i'm done on this subject NEXT!!!!!

Simon Blackrock
03-15-2009, 07:42 PM
I feel the role jughead plays is that its beeen leaking radiation and is the cause for Bens tumor and maybe the problems with child birth.

Ilana and Ceasar are like just leaders like how Jack was at first.Ilanna being a cop is an obvious choice and Ceasar must be an educated or well trained individual to be able take charge.I feel he has hidden agendas on his own,why would he hide the documents he found in the hydra and the gun from her so I can say they are not terrorist together for sure.
I feel Ceasr is french and is a relative of one of french ship wreckers and has learned some background knowledge about the island.Or he works for Widmore.I dont think he is a terrorist though.

The terrorist idea is just an idea, i dont see why people get so flustered.

woogie
03-15-2009, 07:56 PM
I'm trying to come up with a theory about Caesar, Elanna (and possibly Roxann if she is connected with them). Elanna and Caesar seemed to know each other very well in the Hydra Station scene, and this is what I came up with so far.


I was just thinking that Caesar, Roxann, and Elanna where all part of some terrorist team who may have somehow known Sayid from the passed, and met him in L.A. the night before the flight. they somehow talked him into helping or blackmailing him to go along with them in some plot. I would think that this terrorist team would be after the H-bomb on the island, and they intend to use it for some bad use that could start a war. How they found out about the bomb and island is unknown, but we know the island is known by outsiders including the U.S. Government (and anyone who could get a hold of their files on the island).

How does this sound?

Here's a second thought. Could Caesar be Hurley's son? Would his age be right if he was born around 78-79? And if Elanna is Caesar's sister, that would mean Hurley was a busy bee back in the DHARMA day's.

I will start by saying that I do not dis credit the possibility that these characters you talk about are terrorists (you never know what people were before the island right?). However, I think that the scenario that terrorist would just want the Hbomb is just a bit obsurd, there is no way that they would just know about a hbomb on an island and not anything else about the island. If they had US files Im sure it talked about the hostiles, and the akward methods of reaching the island... How do they plan on getting the hbomb off the island? I think the flaw is just that the theory is too broad, leaves to much open to question maybe? I have two suggestions about these characters; they are part of another group of new losties that will possibly get caught into a time loop like the 815 losties...I think they are related to the island be it they are spies for Widmore or terrorists or whatever, but they could be unaware of their history with the island just like the 815 losties.