swaded420
03-23-2009, 04:57 AM
Perhaps this has already been brought up, but I don't recall noticing anything of the sort, so here we go.
In The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham, John went to see all the survivors who got off the island to try to convince them to go back to the island. John also visited Walt, although he did not invite him for the ride. Then why bother going to see him? Walt asked John why he was there, and John said "I just wanted to make sure you were alright," in a none-too-convincing tone of voice. Did John wait outside Walt's school with intent to ask him to go back? Or was he just compelled to do so, as if he were supposed to talk to Walt?
Well, towards the beginning of their brief conversation, John observed that Walt was not very surprised to see him. When John said something about it, Walt replied "I've been having dreams about you. You were on the island, wearing a suit, and there were people all around you. They wanted to hurt you, John."
John coolly replies, "good thing they're just dreams," but we all know (as should John Locke, after his dreams led him all over the place on the island, including a dream which helped John find Jacob's cabin) that dreams are a lot more than just dreams.
Since that episode, we've all been a little preoccupied with newborns and truces and lies and new lives in old times and people coming back, yada yada. But the only time we've ever seen John in a suit on the island, is after Ajira 316, when he's with the new survivors. But why would they want to hurt John? His story that no body noticed him on the plane because he was a little busy resting in a coffin is a bit far fetched, but still. With the added fact that they've found signs of civilization, past or present, they would definitely start to wonder about him. But then we see that Ben is with them. And we all know the filthy lies that man spews. So now we've got to wonder, what did Ben say that's got the newbies wanting to hurt the innocent ol' John Locke? And what makes Ben want to hurt him? Did he save him from suicide, kill him and bring him back only because he had to do it that way to get back to the island? And now that the deed's done, time to move on to the next deed, getting John out of the way for good?
But back in John's hotel room, during his seemingly unsuccessful recruitment, Ben does save John. Why? Because he needed answers, such as how to get back to the island, and he knew that Jacob would not send John on a mission away from the island without first telling him how to get back. After talking John down, comforting him, reassuring him that he's not a failure, and gaining his momentary trust, Ben rambles about how they can find a way to get Jack, Kate, Sun, etc. in the same place, and then he says "I don't know where we'll go from there, but we'll figure something out." Then John tells there is a woman in LA, named Eloise Hawking. Ben asks, "Eloise Hawking, you sure?" Bingo! Got what he needed. And then, once he got the answer he needed, he did away with John.
Disclaimer- I do not necessarily believe this scenario to be fact, simply speculation. As a matter of fact, I've already thought of quite a few reasons why this whole idea is completely untrue and an utter waste of time. My name must be Daniel, 'cause I'm rambling like a crazy man. Don't blame me, afterall, my name stands for smoke w... all day everyday. =D
In The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham, John went to see all the survivors who got off the island to try to convince them to go back to the island. John also visited Walt, although he did not invite him for the ride. Then why bother going to see him? Walt asked John why he was there, and John said "I just wanted to make sure you were alright," in a none-too-convincing tone of voice. Did John wait outside Walt's school with intent to ask him to go back? Or was he just compelled to do so, as if he were supposed to talk to Walt?
Well, towards the beginning of their brief conversation, John observed that Walt was not very surprised to see him. When John said something about it, Walt replied "I've been having dreams about you. You were on the island, wearing a suit, and there were people all around you. They wanted to hurt you, John."
John coolly replies, "good thing they're just dreams," but we all know (as should John Locke, after his dreams led him all over the place on the island, including a dream which helped John find Jacob's cabin) that dreams are a lot more than just dreams.
Since that episode, we've all been a little preoccupied with newborns and truces and lies and new lives in old times and people coming back, yada yada. But the only time we've ever seen John in a suit on the island, is after Ajira 316, when he's with the new survivors. But why would they want to hurt John? His story that no body noticed him on the plane because he was a little busy resting in a coffin is a bit far fetched, but still. With the added fact that they've found signs of civilization, past or present, they would definitely start to wonder about him. But then we see that Ben is with them. And we all know the filthy lies that man spews. So now we've got to wonder, what did Ben say that's got the newbies wanting to hurt the innocent ol' John Locke? And what makes Ben want to hurt him? Did he save him from suicide, kill him and bring him back only because he had to do it that way to get back to the island? And now that the deed's done, time to move on to the next deed, getting John out of the way for good?
But back in John's hotel room, during his seemingly unsuccessful recruitment, Ben does save John. Why? Because he needed answers, such as how to get back to the island, and he knew that Jacob would not send John on a mission away from the island without first telling him how to get back. After talking John down, comforting him, reassuring him that he's not a failure, and gaining his momentary trust, Ben rambles about how they can find a way to get Jack, Kate, Sun, etc. in the same place, and then he says "I don't know where we'll go from there, but we'll figure something out." Then John tells there is a woman in LA, named Eloise Hawking. Ben asks, "Eloise Hawking, you sure?" Bingo! Got what he needed. And then, once he got the answer he needed, he did away with John.
Disclaimer- I do not necessarily believe this scenario to be fact, simply speculation. As a matter of fact, I've already thought of quite a few reasons why this whole idea is completely untrue and an utter waste of time. My name must be Daniel, 'cause I'm rambling like a crazy man. Don't blame me, afterall, my name stands for smoke w... all day everyday. =D