Quick thought on the smoke monster

[swaded420]

As I rewatched the pilot for Lost, I watched and listened intently as the Smoke Monster's first appearance without appearing was made. The next morning, when everyone's talking about it, Rose says "that sound that it made, I keep thinking there was something really familiar about it," and tells everyone she's from the Bronx.

Maybe it sounds familiar because she's been in the past via flashes and she heard the smoke monster back then and it's familiar even though she hasn't actually heard it yet, just like when Richard visited John as a child and asked him, "which of these things are yours already?" and John was able to go two outta three. Even though the island sand and the compass weren't really his yet, they were already familiar to him.

Or perhaps, tptb used a sound from the real world that they liked for the part, just like they did with the beeping of the timer in the Hatch, which was actually the beeping of a scanner at a super market. So next time you're watching Lost and the sounds of the Smoke Monster are audible, close your eyes and listen closely, see if it seems familiar from anywhere besides the show, and maybe you'll discover a clue to the security device for protecting the temple.

[Unbridled Pageantry]

As I rewatched the pilot for Lost, I watched and listened intently as the Smoke Monster's first appearance without appearing was made. The next morning, when everyone's talking about it, Rose says "that sound that it made, I keep thinking there was something really familiar about it," and tells everyone she's from the Bronx.

Maybe it sounds familiar because she's been in the past via flashes and she heard the smoke monster back then and it's familiar even though she hasn't actually heard it yet, .


I think your right, and that's how all those instances will be explained. Rose knows the monster's sound because it's in her sub-concious.

[losttime]

Or maybe because the sound is similar to a taxi receipt printer. Locke didnt mention that he recognized the sound but in the episode where he was at his desk and was punching numbers in the calculator it sounded exaclty like the clicking sound the monster makes.

[notsolost42]

As I rewatched the pilot for Lost, I watched and listened intently as the Smoke Monster's first appearance without appearing was made. The next morning, when everyone's talking about it, Rose says "that sound that it made, I keep thinking there was something really familiar about it," and tells everyone she's from the Bronx.

Maybe it sounds familiar because she's been in the past via flashes and she heard the smoke monster back then and it's familiar even though she hasn't actually heard it yet, just like when Richard visited John as a child and asked him, "which of these things are yours already?" and John was able to go two outta three. Even though the island sand and the compass weren't really his yet, they were already familiar to him.

Or perhaps, tptb used a sound from the real world that they liked for the part, just like they did with the beeping of the timer in the Hatch, which was actually the beeping of a scanner at a super market. So next time you're watching Lost and the sounds of the Smoke Monster are audible, close your eyes and listen closely, see if it seems familiar from anywhere besides the show, and maybe you'll discover a clue to the security device for protecting the temple.

The noise that they actually used for the smoke monster was of a taxi cab printer making a receipt. That's why the running joke about the Bronx. New York, taxi cabs, get it? But tell me, did you notice if the smoke monster was at all present when they first crashed? Lurking somewhere by the beach perhaps? I have my reasons for asking this.

[swaded420]

It was flying through the jungle just off the beach, tearing up trees and all that nonsense the first night after the crash, but no, it wasn't made to be known that it was anywhere nearby right after the crash.

Didn't know about the taxi cab sound whatnot. Haha, that's great. These guys have the strangest minds.

[notsolost42]

It was flying through the jungle just off the beach, tearing up trees and all that nonsense the first night after the crash, but no, it wasn't made to be known that it was anywhere nearby right after the crash.

Didn't know about the taxi cab sound whatnot. Haha, that's great. These guys have the strangest minds.

Okay, so it was there on the beach that first night then. I need to know exactly what TPTB said about Jacob again? They said something about Jacob being seen right after the plane crash but did not have a speaking part? Can someone find the quote or podcast or whatever for me? I would greatly appreciate it!

[swaded420]

In an interview Carlton Cuse did before season 4 premiered, he said, "And no, Jacob did not appear before he was met by Locke." I thought I remembered reading someone say that the producers said Jacob had appeared in the pilot episode, but had had no lines, but never read or heard this from a credible source.

[notsolost42]

In an interview Carlton Cuse did before season 4 premiered, he said, "And no, Jacob did not appear before he was met by Locke." I thought I remembered reading someone say that the producers said Jacob had appeared in the pilot episode, but had had no lines, but never read or heard this from a credible source.

That's one of my biggest reason for staying away from this whole Jacob thing. Too much garbage. I am just wondering, mostly to myself though I have mentioned it, if Jacob and the smoke monster are part of each other. Kind of a yin and yang thing.

[Camotyger20]

A lot of people are believing Smokie to be some kind of entity or even Jacob. It is just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions, I believe that Rose made this reference to simulate something mechanical. I thought she might be refering to the subways and the howling they make from their breaks. This is meant to show us that smokie isn't supernatural but man-made.

From the Blast door map you see alot of reference to a Cerebus experiment and other language such as CV also known as Cerebus Vents. The Cerebus was a mythical creature that guarded the gates of the underworld. This creature was known to have three heads. In one episode in season 4 the monster hits the sonic fence and breaks into 3 smaller parts then forms into one large one. I believe each part has a certain job, one head takes picture as seen in the same episode discussed above with the flashing at Juliet. Another head has the ability to project images/ or halograms of some sort, thus the images it showed Ecko, and possible some of the manifestations, though I don't think Christian is one of these manifestations, I believe he is alive just as Locke is now. staying on point.... The other head has the job of picking things up, trees and people. The underworld being the underground caves and ruins that go between the swan and the orchid and elsewhere on the island. We see some of this cave when Locke turns the wheel, behind Christian you can see the cave continuing to the left of the screen.

The smoke is part of the malfunction that the Blast Door map refers to and possibly the loud noises that it makes. The malfunction occuring in 1985 according to the map. Now this thing is running around, no longer totally controllable. I think it scans a person, which everyone assumes it is judging them in some supernatural way.

Just my theory, It's long winded but I thought I'd share my observations with you and see what you think about it.

[swaded420]

I have a feeling that the smoke monster was man-made also, but for different reasons. When Ben drew a map for Alex, Danielle and Karl, it looked kinda like a Dharma logo that was labeled 'Temple'. Maybe the smoke monster was an experiment of the DI that went awry, a rogue security system as it were. I wouldn't be surprised if the Temple was a structure left behind by an ancient civilization, which the DI found and pimped out with some new tech'. I love the idea of a three-part smoke 'monster,' especially considering that sometimes it'll look like massive, and other times it'll look like a junior version of itself. What confuses me is the difference in intent it displays with different people. It killed the pilot, no questions asked. It killed Eko, no questions asked (the second time they came face to face, that is). But it dragged the leader of Rousseau's team, brought him inside the Temple and than let him go. It dragged Locke, desperately trying to take him into the underground tunnels, and Locke even tells Jack that he seriously doubted it was going to hurt him or kill him. I wouldn't be surprised if, if we are ever lucky enough to see inside the Temple, there will be a DI orientation filmed all queued up ready to enlighten anyone worthy as to the secrets of the island. But I still don't get what causes Smokey to kill some people. Is it just having a bad day and decides to take it out on whoever it can find? And what's up with Ben being able to call it so that it would fight off Keamy's team and even force them to retreat for the moment?

[Camotyger20]

I agree the temple is the key and more than likely it's home. I believe there is a way to access it like Ben did by going into the hidden room in the basement, which also had the same hyraglyphics that were seen at the temple. Not sure if Ben can actually control it or is only able to call it.

I wonder if the machine can flash images in a way to brainwash a person, sort of like we seen Ben doing to Alex's boyfriend at the Hydra station. This would explain why Rouseau's crew went crazy, the motivations behind this I am clueless to, but a thought.

I think Locke believed he was safe because he had already seen it, perhaps it showed him a few images and he lived to tell about it, like Ecko did the first time he crossed paths with it. The second time it killed Ecko and the second time it got a hold of Locke and tried to pull him down one of the vents.

Question is, was the technology around to build such a thing in the 70's/80's.

[swaded420]

Question is, was the technology around to build such a thing in the 70's/80's.

The real question is, was the technology to build a time machine around in the 70's/80's? Doubt it, at least not in the world we know. However, the island is known to have some pretty extraordinary energies and forces lurking within. Perhaps the DI was able to use this energy to create the lovable Smokey as they were able to use it to create the vault below the Orchid.

[5starboss]

The real question is, was the technology to build a time machine around in the 70's/80's? Doubt it, at least not in the world we know. However, the island is known to have some pretty extraordinary energies and forces lurking within. Perhaps the DI was able to use this energy to create the lovable Smokey as they were able to use it to create the vault below the Orchid.

Technology cascades down to the public sector after being refined and adjusted by the military. The internet for example. ( not an al gore invention btw:eek:)

[Camotyger20]

Technology cascades down to the public sector after being refined and adjusted by the military. The internet for example. ( not an al gore invention btw:eek:)

So do you know of any technology even military that could have built a machine such as the Smoke Monster. Seems like even though the island has some unique properties, it's still based in scientific evidence, ie Electromagnatism, Blackholes, etc.