Sorry for you Sawyer lovers,but...

[MrEchoLives]

Sawyer is a sell-out. He sold Sayid out. He was willing to side with his new buddies in the DI and forget about Sayid. I know he wasnt going to kill Sayid, but he sure didnt make any effort to make his life better.
STEP UP YOUR GAME SAWYER.....or Jack is gonna have to come back in and take control of this mess your creating.

[Missie]

Sawyer is a sell-out. He sold Sayid out. He was willing to side with his new buddies in the DI and forget about Sayid. I know he wasnt going to kill Sayid, but he sure didnt make any effort to make his life better.
STEP UP YOUR GAME SAWYER.....or Jack is gonna have to come back in and take control of this mess your creating.

He knew Sayid for three months. He knew his 'new' DI friends for three years. Of course he wasnt going to comprimise everything he has worked for in three years to help Sayid be more comfortable!

[Workman]

He knew Sayid for three months. He knew his 'new' DI friends for three years. Of course he wasnt going to comprimise everything he has worked for in three years to help Sayid be more comfortable!

Exactly...And like Juliet said, none of them thought they would actually come back. The return of the O6 is going to create nothing but chaos. And ultimately start the 'war' that they've been talking about.

[ortrules]

He knew Sayid for three months. He knew his 'new' DI friends for three years. Of course he wasnt going to comprimise everything he has worked for in three years to help Sayid be more comfortable!

Help make Sayid more comfortable? Don't you mean, compromise everything to help Sayid live!?

Sure, he was just going along with things at first. But then he raised his hand when they were voting to kill him.

I like Sawyer, but he sucks as a leader. He's continuing to look out for himself.

[5starboss]

It was inevitable. Refusing the vote would have only complicated his future efforts to save Sayid. The DI would have been very suspicious of him. Its a swing and a miss. He tried everything he could, it didn't pan out, so he moves on to the next plan.

[zwishmaster]

Sawyer is a sell-out. He sold Sayid out. He was willing to side with his new buddies in the DI and forget about Sayid. I know he wasnt going to kill Sayid, but he sure didnt make any effort to make his life better.
STEP UP YOUR GAME SAWYER.....or Jack is gonna have to come back in and take control of this mess your creating. also saywer did come back and try to let sayid go after the vote but sayid didn't want to leave because he was schemin on lil ben

[Missie]

Help make Sayid more comfortable? Don't you mean, compromise everything to help Sayid live!?

Sure, he was just going along with things at first. But then he raised his hand when they were voting to kill him.

I like Sawyer, but he sucks as a leader. He's continuing to look out for himself.

I have to admit I was mad at Sawyer when he raised his hand. But he did try to let Sayid escape. And Sayid refused, in fact that was the second time Sayid refused to let Sawyer save him. Plus, Im sure Saywer is worried that if the DI finds out he been lying all this time they will consider him and Juliet to be traders. Possibly spies for the Hositiles. And who knows what will happen to them then.

[ortrules]

It was inevitable. Refusing the vote would have only complicated his future efforts to save Sayid. The DI would have been very suspicious of him. Its a swing and a miss. He tried everything he could, it didn't pan out, so he moves on to the next plan.

I don't think so. For starters, Sawyer is the head of security. So if the head of security refuses to kill a hostile because it could break the truce and get the hostiles angry, then why shouldn't he vote not to kill him?

What's worse? Hostiles mad that you have one of their own? Or hostiles mad that you killed one of their own?

[beachblinkette]

Don't judge Sawyer too harshly. Remember he was the one who jumped out of the helicopter giving up his seat for the 06--Sayid didn't do that.. Sawyer turned that lemon, and the following time travel chaos into lemonade! He tried to make things work out and we still don't know how the burning bus came to be or whoever it was that caused the diversion allowing Sayid to escape. It seems that everyone has been tweaked by this shift backwards and forwards in time.

[Erratic Pendulum]

Sawyer is a sell-out. He sold Sayid out. He was willing to side with his new buddies in the DI and forget about Sayid. I know he wasnt going to kill Sayid, but he sure didnt make any effort to make his life better.
STEP UP YOUR GAME SAWYER.....or Jack is gonna have to come back in and take control of this mess your creating.

what are u talking about? in the episode i saw, sawyer gave sayid at least 2 or 3 chances to get out of his predicament. and even after sayid refused all of that sawyer still told him to punch him and take his keys. i think sawyer has changed the most over the course of the series and im actually kind of proud of him for his turnaround. also considering how sayid tortured sawyer in season 1, u gotta give james props.

[5starboss]

I don't think so. For starters, Sawyer is the head of security. So if the head of security refuses to kill a hostile because it could break the truce and get the hostiles angry, then why shouldn't he vote not to kill him?

What's worse? Hostiles mad that you have one of their own? Or hostiles mad that you killed one of their own?

true, but the DI angle was that according to the rules of the Truce, they had done their part and treated him fairly as a prisoner. Therefore, the hostiles would have no beef since they followed the Truce protocol.

[InTheBeginning]

I'm just wondering what ol' LeFleur was about to tell freckles when the flaming van drove into the village!?

[Lost in VA]

I'm just wondering what ol' LeFleur was about to tell freckles when the flaming van drove into the village!?
More importantly, what was Freckles about to tell James, about why she came back?

[Jakk]

This is what i said when we found out sawyer was in a leadership position.

"James will have a new found respect for Jack."

And I will stand by my statment what Sawyer still has it easier then Jack did.

[Linus]

what are u talking about? in the episode i saw, sawyer gave sayid at least 2 or 3 chances to get out of his predicament. and even after sayid refused all of that sawyer still told him to punch him and take his keys. i think sawyer has changed the most over the course of the series and im actually kind of proud of him for his turnaround. also considering how sayid tortured sawyer in season 1, u gotta give james props.


I agree. He gave him several chances, and even though he voted with the rest of the Dahrma group, he still tried to get Sayid to leave and make it look like he over-powered Sawyer. If you take all that into consideration with the past, where Sayid tortured Sawyer like erratic said, then IMHO you can see how Sawyer has grown tremendously.

Also, Ort, I have to disagree with you. IMHO Sawyer has been the best leader of any. Remember that time when Hugo "coached" Sawyer into the Leadership role before Jack returned? I thought he was doing good then, and in seeing his Leadership role in Dharma seems to confirm that he has grown in many ways, not the least of which is Leadership. Add to that, as he says that great leaders do think their way through problems, and you have allot of evidence of his growth as a Leader.

[beachblinkette]

Love this quote which I think is very Lostian:

"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." Marcus Aurelius.

[hurleysgirl]

I am throughly disgusted with Sawyer, he is the one that was suppose to be waiting for the 6 to come back, rememeber he could have left on the sub after 2 weeks, but wanted to wait for well Kate, and boy I bet she is sorry she came back and didnt marry jack when she could have but I think she is worrying about the children (arron and little sawyer, we never have found out yet if its a boy or girl)

[BradleyB420]

I can't remember Sayid torturing Sawyer in Season 1. Why did he do that and which episode was it in?

[ortrules]

Also, Ort, I have to disagree with you. IMHO Sawyer has been the best leader of any. Remember that time when Hugo "coached" Sawyer into the Leadership role before Jack returned? I thought he was doing good then, and in seeing his Leadership role in Dharma seems to confirm that he has grown in many ways, not the least of which is Leadership. Add to that, as he says that great leaders do think their way through problems, and you have allot of evidence of his growth as a Leader.

It's two different situations though.

Sawyer is the leader in a comfortable Dharma setting where there are laws and rules that they follow.

Jack was the leader on a mysterious island where a bunch of people who didn't know each other crashed. They had no rules, they had no homes, they had nothing. And then they had an unexplained group called the Others to deal with and the smoke monster.

So sure, you may see Sawyer as a better leader. But let's see him lead them after something as dramatic as the plane crash - I don't think he could do it. He likes to sit and think about things, but when something like that happens, you don't have time to think. When they were flashing through time and Sawyer was their "leader", his only suggestion was to sit on the beach and wait it out.

[Chicagoish]

Sawyer gave Sayid many chances to go. In my opinion Sayid was asking for everything that would come his way; his actions absolve Sawyer. Sawyer voting for the death was nothing more than playing to the inevitable. Goodspeed wanted a unanimous decision, but Sawyers disagreement would not have stopped the majority rule.

[egaio]

Don't judge Sawyer too harshly. Remember he was the one who jumped out of the helicopter giving up his seat for the 06--Sayid didn't do that.. Sawyer turned that lemon, and the following time travel chaos into lemonade! He tried to make things work out and we still don't know how the burning bus came to be or whoever it was that caused the diversion allowing Sayid to escape. It seems that everyone has been tweaked by this shift backwards and forwards in time.

Sawyer did that for Kate not the O6

[Freckles/Juliette]

I am throughly disgusted with Sawyer, he is the one that was suppose to be waiting for the 6 to come back, rememeber he could have left on the sub after 2 weeks, but wanted to wait for well Kate, and boy I bet she is sorry she came back and didnt marry jack when she could have but I think she is worrying about the children (arron and little sawyer, we never have found out yet if its a boy or girl)

I thought that Sawyer's child was a girl named Clementine (SP?).

[losttime]

Sayid is a sell-out? If I correctly recall, Sawyer told Sayid the way it works to keep him from being shot right there. he tld him that as he knows the truce stipulated that if capturred they have to acknowledge that they are a Hostile or will be shot. He made sure he was fed and kpt safe. He was basically begging Sayid to say he defected or he as going to be killed. Sayid insisted on being the stubborn one with his own agenda. Sawyer had no choice but to evntualy side with the committee. He also sided with much reluctance if you noticed. His hands were tied. Why risk his existance as well as the others that were with him when they were found. What confuses me is if hLafleur is the Head of Security, why wasnt he calling the shots but pretty much Radzinsky(however you spell it) was?

[Dead but Here]

I disagree that Jack had a harder job of leading than Sawyer does. Jack had a no rules situation where everyone looked to the muscly educated guy to decide what to do. He did what he wanted and screw anyone who disagreed. Jack lead by doing whatever the hell he wanted. That was better than what everyone else was doing at the time, but it isn't good leadership.

Sawyer has to keep his little crew safe while working in the confines of a system. He is head of security, but not head of everything. He's got to lead and follow at the same time. Jack couldn't have done that. It is confusing as to why Radzinski has so much say in everything, but then, they haven't told us what Radzinski is head of. He clearly has enough power to tell Horace what's what.

Sayid not only endangered himself by refusing to cooperate with Sawyer, he endangered them all. If it was found that they were not who they said they were, the DI would assume that the only other option was that they were spies and not just Sawyer, but the whole lot of them would be killed. It was a delicate business trying to get Sayid out of trouble without giving anything away and Sayid was having none of it. James tried over and over. Some apparently think he should have just kicked the door in Jack-style. Then what? Settle him into a dharma house or run off to the hostiles where they're just as likely to be killed? I believe he's thinking about all of them and he's got them set up as best they can be. If he was only thinking about himself, he could have let Radzinski kill Sayid at the start and he wouldn't have had to worry about a screw up exposing them all. He could have left the 06 in the jungle instead of trying to get them in, which he could have been caught doing and still might be caught if paperwork doesn't match somewhere.

[NoData]

I disagree that Jack had a harder job of leading than Sawyer does. Jack had a no rules situation where everyone looked to the muscly educated guy to decide what to do. He did what he wanted and screw anyone who disagreed. Jack lead by doing whatever the hell he wanted. That was better than what everyone else was doing at the time, but it isn't good leadership.

Sawyer has to keep his little crew safe while working in the confines of a system. He is head of security, but not head of everything. He's got to lead and follow at the same time. Jack couldn't have done that. It is confusing as to why Radzinski has so much say in everything, but then, they haven't told us what Radzinski is head of. He clearly has enough power to tell Horace what's what.

Sayid not only endangered himself by refusing to cooperate with Sawyer, he endangered them all. If it was found that they were not who they said they were, the DI would assume that the only other option was that they were spies and not just Sawyer, but the whole lot of them would be killed. It was a delicate business trying to get Sayid out of trouble without giving anything away and Sayid was having none of it. James tried over and over. Some apparently think he should have just kicked the door in Jack-style. Then what? Settle him into a dharma house or run off to the hostiles where they're just as likely to be killed? I believe he's thinking about all of them and he's got them set up as best they can be. If he was only thinking about himself, he could have let Radzinski kill Sayid at the start and he wouldn't have had to worry about a screw up exposing them all. He could have left the 06 in the jungle instead of trying to get them in, which he could have been caught doing and still might be caught if paperwork doesn't match somewhere.Excellent post, imo. You said exactly what I was feeling, but I couldn't quite put it into words. :)
I agree completely.

[ortrules]

I disagree that Jack had a harder job of leading than Sawyer does. Jack had a no rules situation where everyone looked to the muscly educated guy to decide what to do. He did what he wanted and screw anyone who disagreed. Jack lead by doing whatever the hell he wanted. That was better than what everyone else was doing at the time, but it isn't good leadership.

Sawyer has to keep his little crew safe while working in the confines of a system. He is head of security, but not head of everything. He's got to lead and follow at the same time. Jack couldn't have done that. It is confusing as to why Radzinski has so much say in everything, but then, they haven't told us what Radzinski is head of. He clearly has enough power to tell Horace what's what.

So you think it's easier to lead in a lawless and chaotic environment (post plane crash) than lead in a confined system? Seriously?

Let's put it this way. Which is easier - leading a 3rd world country where it's every man for himself, or leading an established country that has a process already put in place?

[LostFreak21]

I was surprised Sayid didn't follow Sawyer but he wanted Ben. His revenge outwieghed his friendship with the 06. He should have known the Island won't let Ben die.

[Missie]

So you think it's easier to lead in a lawless and chaotic environment (post plane crash) than lead in a confined system? Seriously?

Let's put it this way. Which is easier - leading a 3rd world country where it's every man for himself, or leading an established country that has a process already put in place?

I think your forgetting the main part of Sawyer's situation... uh... he 30 years in the past? I think that makes things a bit more difficult. What if Jack was the one that jumped out of the plane? Do you think he could of come up with an elaborate lie that transitioned the Losties into the DI so smoothly?
Remember Jacks lie for the O6? How did that work out?
Ive really enjoyed seeing Sawyer move from a selfish prick to a leader.

[5starboss]

I was surprised Sayid didn't follow Sawyer but he wanted Ben. His revenge outwieghed his friendship with the 06. He should have known the Island won't let Ben die.

i thought the trigger would misfire like it did in NYC with micheal, but he looked pretty dead to me. a bullet thru the chest cavity is tough to beat.

[ortrules]

I think your forgetting the main part of Sawyer's situation... uh... he 30 years in the past? I think that makes things a bit more difficult. What if Jack was the one that jumped out of the plane? Do you think he could of come up with an elaborate lie that transitioned the Losties into the DI so smoothly?

So Sawyer is a better leader because he can lie? I think my point is still valid. Sure, Jack probably wouldn't have been able to integrate with Dharma, but that doesn't make him any less of a leader, it just means he's not a con man. I mean, I could turn around and say "do you think Sawyer could have saved Rose? Do you think Sawyer could have helped a pregnant woman?" No, he can't, he's not a doctor, but that doesn't make Sawyer any less a leader.

The heart of the issue is simply, who's the better leader? If Jack was able to con his way into Dharma, I have no doubt he could lead as well as Sawyer has. Again, it's a very confined, law abiding place. Just about any competent person could be a leader for Dharma, it doesn't seem like there's much to it. After all, if a complete stranger can grow to become head of security in just 3 years, is it really that hard?

I think Sawyer has done a great job. And it has been awesome to see his character evolve - he's one of my favorites. I simply think that trying to say Sawyer is a better leader than Jack simply because of what he's done in Dharma is silly. It's incomparable to the leader role Jack took after the plane crash.

[bunnydixon]

I can't remember Sayid torturing Sawyer in Season 1. Why did he do that and which episode was it in?

he tortured sawyer in season 1 to get asthma medicine for shannon as everyone believed sawyer was hiding it. i think its safe to say sayid and sawyer dont have the best relationship.

[Missie]

So Sawyer is a better leader because he can lie? I think my point is still valid. Sure, Jack probably wouldn't have been able to integrate with Dharma, but that doesn't make him any less of a leader, it just means he's not a con man. I mean, I could turn around and say "do you think Sawyer could have saved Rose? Do you think Sawyer could have helped a pregnant woman?" No, he can't, he's not a doctor, but that doesn't make Sawyer any less a leader.

The heart of the issue is simply, who's the better leader? If Jack was able to con his way into Dharma, I have no doubt he could lead as well as Sawyer has. Again, it's a very confined, law abiding place. Just about any competent person could be a leader for Dharma, it doesn't seem like there's much to it. After all, if a complete stranger can grow to become head of security in just 3 years, is it really that hard?

I think Sawyer has done a great job. And it has been awesome to see his character evolve - he's one of my favorites. I simply think that trying to say Sawyer is a better leader than Jack simply because of what he's done in Dharma is silly. It's incomparable to the leader role Jack took after the plane crash.

Uh...uh... Your Silly!:p

In all seriousness... I also think its tough to say that Jack is better leader. Your right its incomparable.

Getting back to the point of this thread... everyone should remember that Sawyer's loyalty no longer lies with the Jack, Sayid, Hurley, and Kate. He has lived with the DI for three years. He has been with Juliet for three years. He has made friends with many of the DI members. He has a whole life, better then the life he had before the crash. He wants things to stay the same.

[Miss Alabamy]

I agree that Sawyer did what he had to do because he was thinking of how NOT to draw suspicion upon himself, Sayid, Juliet, and the people he cares about. He clearly gave Sayid several opportunities, but Sayid was only thinking of Sayid. Sawyer was thinking of how to save Sayid without blowing his own cover and everyone else's. Give the guy a break. What else was he supposed to do?


I don't think that Jack or Sawyer is any better as a leader or as a person, really, than the other. They are just different.

I don't Radzinsky has any real authority- I just think he has an obnoxiously big mouth and an annoyingly high opinion of himself.

[ortrules]

Sawyer was thinking of how to save Sayid without blowing his own cover and everyone else's. Give the guy a break. What else was he supposed to do?

Not raise his hand. That's all I'm asking for. He could have not raised his hand and given a good reason why killing Sayid would bring war with the Hostiles - but no, he just raised it.

Do you think Sawyer would have voted yes if it was Kate who was in Sayid's position? It's just a little disappointing that Sawyer would vote a yes.

[Miss Alabamy]

Not raise his hand. That's all I'm asking for. He could have not raised his hand and given a good reason why killing Sayid would bring war with the Hostiles - but no, he just raised it.

Do you think Sawyer would have voted yes if it was Kate who was in Sayid's position? It's just a little disappointing that Sawyer would vote a yes.

Sure, he refuses to raise his hand and chooses to keep arguing a dead point, therefore putting himself and the rest in jeopardy. Yeah, smart move. He knew there was no way to change their minds- it was clear that after Amy spoke, it was a moot point. Even if it was Kate- who most likely would have listened to Sawyer in the first place and not put him in that position- I think he would have gone along with the vote to save face and then he would have done what he rally wanted to do and helped her escape. I just don't think his vote reflected how he really felt about the situation at all. He is lying about everything to the DI, why would he stop at such a crucial moment? He can't afford to let his true feelings compromise the situation.

[Trumby]

the one thing I didn't understand here is how Radzinsky thinks Sayid saw so much. He had time to barely catch a glimpse of the model in the Flame but told them exactly what the Swan was for (and what it was called even though they hadn't named it yet?) and he didn't question that at all. WTF? I think Radzinsky is already a little more than screwed up in the head.

I am throughly disgusted with Sawyer, he is the one that was suppose to be waiting for the 6 to come back, rememeber he could have left on the sub after 2 weeks, but wanted to wait for well Kate, and boy I bet she is sorry she came back and didnt marry jack when she could have but I think she is worrying about the children (arron and little sawyer, we never have found out yet if its a boy or girl)
Actually, Sawyer was waiting for John to come back. Not the 06 to come back. As we see him asking Kate why they came back, he had no idea they would be. There's more of it in the previews too.

Also Sawyer's child was a daughter. We saw a picture of her, and Cassidy told him it was his daughter.

[yokogleeton]

Sure, he refuses to raise his hand and chooses to keep arguing a dead point, therefore putting himself and the rest in jeopardy. Yeah, smart move. He knew there was no way to change their minds- it was clear that after Amy spoke, it was a moot point. Even if it was Kate- who most likely would have listened to Sawyer in the first place and not put him in that position- I think he would have gone along with the vote to save face and then he would have done what he rally wanted to do and helped her escape. I just don't think his vote reflected how he really felt about the situation at all. He is lying about everything to the DI, why would he stop at such a crucial moment? He can't afford to let his true feelings compromise the situation.

Agreed, and really, why does it matter if Sawyer raises his hand if in the back of his head he's thinking the whole time, "well doesn't matter, i'm going to his cell to convince him to play ball and unanimous or not, they're going to do it, no sense sticking out against the group.



and Radzinsky comes off as a definite conspiracy nut/whistle blower type. Sayid only got one glimpse of the model (still under construction mind you) and automatically Radzinsky accused him of being a spy. also, I'm sure he doesn't have more power than Horace, but that wouldn't stop him from being the island tattletale, and it wouldnt stop him from calling the Dharma founders in Michigan.

[Linus]

A couple of more points on this Sawyer vs. Jack Leadership.

1. Leadership has many different styles, regardless of the circumstance.
I'll agree that in some situations one style may be better than another,
however that doesn't make one a better leader than the other.

2. The reason I think Sawyer's style is better is that he thinks his way through things more than Jack. Yes, there are times you don't have allot of time to think, and I believe we have seen Sawyer display that he can be quick on his feet when it is called for, and times when he doesn't, but overall I like his style better.

Also, he has evolved, as you said Ort. When they first crashed on the island, I don't think he was ready to be the Leader. Of course, neither was Jack, and he said so. He didn't want to be a leader, but everyone looked to him to lead because he stepped up and did it.

As it was said by someone else, he knew the other 06 members for like 100 days, but has been in the 70's for 3 years. That makes a big difference in his decisions and how be behaves toward the reunited 06 members too.

And lastly, I agree with what was said by the last post in that Sawyer was trying to save face in front of the other DI members in the vote, because he ultimately wants to protect their secret, and their way of life that they have now. This is proven by the fact that even if he did raise his hand, he still tried to give Sayid a chance to run at the last minute, which seems to me to prove or imply at least that he was not agreeing with killing Sayid.

[ortrules]

Sure, he refuses to raise his hand and chooses to keep arguing a dead point, therefore putting himself and the rest in jeopardy. Yeah, smart move.

As I've contended before, Sawyer isn't just some chump in Dharma. He's the head of security. I'm sorry, but if the head of security says "we shouldn't do this because it will cause a backlash from the hostiles" then I would likely change my attitude. If this guy is in charge of my protection, I'm going to listen to him.

He doesn't have to argue, he doesn't have to do anything. He just has to say "I'm the head of security, this is what I believe, I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you". End of story.

[Dead but Here]

As I've contended before, Sawyer isn't just some chump in Dharma. He's the head of security. I'm sorry, but if the head of security says "we shouldn't do this because it will cause a backlash from the hostiles" then I would likely change my attitude. If this guy is in charge of my protection, I'm going to listen to him.

He doesn't have to argue, he doesn't have to do anything. He just has to say "I'm the head of security, this is what I believe, I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you". End of story.

If a hostile was in their territory, it was breaking the truce and they're allowed to kill him. That was discussed. I think that's why Amy and Paul were the ones breaking the truce, even though Paul was shot and Amy was getting kidnapped. They were where they weren't supposed to be. Killing him would be in line with KEEPING the truce. Not breaking it.

[yokogleeton]

As I've contended before, Sawyer isn't just some chump in Dharma. He's the head of security. I'm sorry, but if the head of security says "we shouldn't do this because it will cause a backlash from the hostiles" then I would likely change my attitude. If this guy is in charge of my protection, I'm going to listen to him.

He doesn't have to argue, he doesn't have to do anything. He just has to say "I'm the head of security, this is what I believe, I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you". End of story.

Not that I'm disagreeing with the thought that Sawyer should have thrown his weight around one this, but what's he supposed to do when "little brother Radzinsky" says "we do this or I'm telling mom and dad (see also calling Ann Arbor) and see what they say about it."

When the local squealer is blowing whistles, you have to play nice with the group.

[yokogleeton]

If a hostile was in their territory, it was breaking the truce and they're allowed to kill him. That was discussed. I think that's why Amy and Paul were the ones breaking the truce, even though Paul was shot and Amy was getting kidnapped. They were where they weren't supposed to be. Killing him would be in line with KEEPING the truce. Not breaking it.

and good point.

[Jakk]

The biggest thing that separates Sawyer from Jack is that Sawyer was willing to play along while one of his fellow islanders was in danger. Jack is pure emotion. He would have fought against all odds to save his friend. Even if it compromised his position of being hidden.

A applaud James’s new found heroics in protecting his friends but I think last nights episode cleared things up a bit. He wants more then anything to protect what he has built in his three years of good behavior.

Jack may be called many things but he left everything behind ONLY to save his friends. Kate, Sayid, Hurley, Sun, and Ben either did not want to return of they had their own self centered reasons.

[Missie]

The biggest thing that separates Sawyer from Jack is that Sawyer was willing to play along while one of his fellow islanders was in danger. Jack is pure emotion. He would have fought against all odds to save his friend. Even if it compromised his position of being hidden.

A applaud James’s new found heroics in protecting his friends but I think last nights episode cleared things up a bit. He wants more then anything to protect what he has built in his three years of good behavior.

Jack may be called many things but he left everything behind ONLY to save his friends. Kate, Sayid, Hurley, Sun, and Ben either did not want to return of they had their own self centered reasons.

I got the impression that Jack wanted to return because he couldnt cope with being in the real world. Shortly after he returned he began a downward spiral into depression and alcoholism. He ruined his relationship with Kate and his career. It wasnt until he started to get the O6 back to together that he started to pick himself up a bit.