I think people are reading to much into this show. Lets look at the facts.

[2cansam]

I think people are reading to much into this show. Lets look at the facts.

Fact 1. Ben
Michael Emerson who plays Ben was originally contracted to appear in just three episodes of Lost, but after good reviews he was contracted for a further five episodes. He was then made a part of the regular cast from the third season. Had Emerson not worked out during his initial appearances a different actor would have been cast for the leader of the Others, but it was always intended that the survivors would have the leader right under their noses and not realize it.

Fact 2. Richard Albert
Nestor Carbonell who plays Richard Albert was originally introduced as a guest star in the third season. In the spring of 2007 Carbonell was contracted as a regular on the CBS television series Cane, which jeopardized his future on Lost. Nevertheless, the 2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike caused Cane to be cancelled and allowed Carbonell to return for the final three episodes of the fourth season and several in the fifth.

Fact3. Jack Shephard
In the original outline of Lost, Jack was going to be killed halfway through the first episode of season 1.The producers felt that if the audience became attached to the character during the first episode, and then he was killed, they might resent the show. So the script was rewritten. His death was meant to shock the audience so they would never know what would happen next.

If all these events had taken place. How would the story of lost turn out? From the begging of season 1 everyone thinks there is a layout of how the story goes. That every little thing ties into something else. How could that be feasible considering three of the main charters where to either be killed of or leave the show ? the show has taken on a life of it own. I honestly think they look at the ideas and theory people post on any type of Lost message boards and integrate them into the show.

[sixxter]

there is a lay out - sure it may not have started off that way as with alot of things but once they new it had to end then they must have put a plan in place in order to get there.
I believe that is why we are seeing the Ben back story just now - its setting us up for the end game - if the whole 5 seasons was just going along on a whim based on TPB reading forums etc then there would be no structure at all - and there clearly is.

There really is no point in if this happened etc etc as they didnt happen and we are where we are which is Lost.

[[T]he[L]amppost]

Fact 1. Ben
Michael Emerson who plays Ben was originally contracted to appear in just three episodes of Lost, but after good reviews he was contracted for a further five episodes. He was then made a part of the regular cast from the third season. Had Emerson not worked out during his initial appearances a different actor would have been cast for the leader of the Others, but it was always intended that the survivors would have the leader right under their noses and not realize it.

True. But like you said, there would have been a different other to take on that story. So we'd still probably have all that is going on now happening, just with a different person. So that would mean they still had it planed out.

Fact 2. Richard Albert
Nestor Carbonell who plays Richard Albert was originally introduced as a guest star in the third season. In the spring of 2007 Carbonell was contracted as a regular on the CBS television series Cane, which jeopardized his future on Lost. Nevertheless, the 2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike caused Cane to be cancelled and allowed Carbonell to return for the final three episodes of the fourth season and several in the fifth.

Even if this had happened. We barely know anything about Richard as it is, with his regular appearences. So even if he wasn't a regular, it wouldn't have effected the show to much.

Fact3. Jack Shephard
In the original outline of Lost, Jack was going to be killed halfway through the first episode of season 1.The producers felt that if the audience became attached to the character during the first episode, and then he was killed, they might resent the show. So the script was rewritten. His death was meant to shock the audience so they would never know what would happen next.

And all this happened before they determined a final script. When they were still making ideas. So when they decided to keep Jack alive, they finished making the rest of the story. So it's still very possible that it's all made to fit together and has been written out.

If all these events had taken place. How would the story of lost turn out? From the begging of season 1 everyone thinks there is a layout of how the story goes. That every little thing ties into something else. How could that be feasible considering three of the main charters where to either be killed of or leave the show ? the show has taken on a life of it own. I honestly think they look at the ideas and theory people post on any type of Lost message boards and integrate them into the show.

Now if that were the case, Jacob might be a dog. Or frogurt. lol I highly doubt they use our ideas in the show. I'm sure they have problems every now and then, like when a major character wants to leave the show. So they have to tweak things. But i'm pretty sure they have it all planed out. Ever since the beginning they've had an end date for the show. And Mathew Fox knows how the show ends(though he is the only cast member who does). So it sounds as though it's very well planed out.

[chester]

They're good points. And I think evidence that the underlying story is more important to the show than the specific character interactions. The things most people are looking deeply into isn't so much do with that though - it's more to do with things that happen in the background, trying to discover what that story is.

[icould61]

I am actually doubt about that jack would die in the first episode of season one as what prouducers or whoever said, we all know jack knows the end and LOST is about Jack and just one episodes acting shouldnt be enough to make it all LOST project about mathew fox
if there will be one person in the end who wakes up in his dream or something and we all swear that would be Jack, I hope not=)

[Dr Violence]

I am actually doubt about that jack would die in the first episode of season one as what prouducers or whoever said, we all know jack knows the end and LOST is about Jack and just one episodes acting shouldnt be enough to make it all LOST project about mathew fox
if there will be one person in the end who wakes up in his dream or something and we all swear that would be Jack, I hope not=)

Errr ok...

[2cansam]

I had posted this earlier in a different thread and it kind of relates to this as well. Of all of the events to take place on the show I feel they will not be able to link them up in the end. Something will aways contradict something else or itself. They have placed to many character moments and poignant events for it to all make sense.

[hurleysgurl]

I have always thought that the main character was Hurley. That's right, my fav-0-rite guy. Who knew the numbers before the crash? Hurley, that's who. As everyone else is trying to decide which side to be on, or who the leader will be, Hurley is trying to bring people together. Who is the only person to have conned Sawyer? Hurley, that's who, several times even. (Hurley conned Sawyer into thinking he'd be banished. He beat him at ping-pong.) Hurley saved the day when Tom and his friends went to kidnap the pregnant women. Hurley created the golf course and got the van running.

[jasonm222]

I think people are reading to much into this show. Lets look at the facts.

Fact 1. Ben
Michael Emerson who plays Ben was originally contracted to appear in just three episodes of Lost, but after good reviews he was contracted for a further five episodes. He was then made a part of the regular cast from the third season. Had Emerson not worked out during his initial appearances a different actor would have been cast for the leader of the Others, but it was always intended that the survivors would have the leader right under their noses and not realize it.

Fact 2. Richard Albert
Nestor Carbonell who plays Richard Albert was originally introduced as a guest star in the third season. In the spring of 2007 Carbonell was contracted as a regular on the CBS television series Cane, which jeopardized his future on Lost. Nevertheless, the 2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike caused Cane to be cancelled and allowed Carbonell to return for the final three episodes of the fourth season and several in the fifth.

Fact3. Jack Shephard
In the original outline of Lost, Jack was going to be killed halfway through the first episode of season 1.The producers felt that if the audience became attached to the character during the first episode, and then he was killed, they might resent the show. So the script was rewritten. His death was meant to shock the audience so they would never know what would happen next.

If all these events had taken place. How would the story of lost turn out? From the begging of season 1 everyone thinks there is a layout of how the story goes. That every little thing ties into something else. How could that be feasible considering three of the main charters where to either be killed of or leave the show ? the show has taken on a life of it own. I honestly think they look at the ideas and theory people post on any type of Lost message boards and integrate them into the show.

could be a throw off...you know.... Play down the important Cast members as though they were never really needed. Darlton are good at this.;)

[swaded420]

Who is the only person to have conned Sawyer? Hurley, that's who, several times even. (Hurley conned Sawyer into thinking he'd be banished. He beat him at ping-pong.)

Ben conned him as well in season 3, in the episode called 'The Long Con.'

But I agree with everyone who thinks that their is a set plan in motion for this show. Character roles are important to this plan, but not as important as the plan itself. If Jack would've died in the pilot as the writers intended, then between Locke, Sayid, Kate, Sawyer, and the other main characters from 815 would've been enough to keep everything going according to plan. If need be, the writers can easily shift responsibility for an event that has to happen to another character, thus always keeping things smooth and collected. To say that they don't have a plan is blasphemy, and I will not stand for it!

I need a chair.

[2cansam]

People just look at every scene as clue. You could look at anything in your daily life and relate it to a clue on Lost. LOL ! I've read the theory of Black Rock , The 108 Minutes , and the Theory of the Missing Chess Piece. I've also seen it mentioned that Kate's hair was parted to the left rather than to the right as to say she was a mirrored cloned. I think the answer will be simple. I think that when people pick apart each and every scene than the show can take on a life of its own and cause people to become Lost in what the show is really about , but I guess that's what's so fun about watching Lost.

[rainmandan]

i love how u start the thread with people r looking to deep into the show. and u give us this? u wanna talk about digging deep under the surface. u give us a bunch of useless tidbids that dont happen.

[2cansam]

i love how u start the thread with people r looking to deep into the show. and u give us this? u wanna talk about digging deep under the surface. u give us a bunch of useless tidbids that dont happen.

just one of those day lol

[notsolost42]

This is the writers form of what happened, happens. The outcome, the ending of the series was always the same. The path to get there can vary, just like in the show. They do have storyboards when they write and follow a continuity of the storyline. It's not just all helter skelter. It is almost as though the story itself is alive and has a pulse. It moves, grows, and changes as it ages but it always has the same ending.

[geronimo jackson browne]

I think the show is a hybrid of a very well planned story that has always had an ending. It is however a TV show and by definition has to please it's audience. A good example would be the couple that murdered each other a few seasons back ( I think the wife allowed the husband to be bitten by a spider?) Viewers HATED these people and they were very quickly dispatched! Sadly I think that no final explanation will ever satisfy any of us. I'll bet that the writers have aides that read these posts and do "steer" the story to some degree. It makes sense to make the viewer happy after all.